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The Ratings Thread (Part 25)
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C14E
23-09-2011
Originally Posted by Samthefootball:
“X Factor USA Surely can't get 9.7m can it Score. How Embarassing for Simon Cowell if the UK Show beats the US One”

If it went down 20% in both the demo and viewers, it would slip just under 10m.

It should get easier next week. Everything else will be onto their second episodes then (whereas everything is premiering against X Factor's 2nd episode tonight). I'd expect one of or possibly both of Person of Interest and Charlie's Angels to take a dive next week. CBS introduce a (dire looking) new sitcom to 8.30pm.
Jonwo
23-09-2011
Person of Interest is CBS' most hyped drama in the same way Hawaii Five-0 and NCIS Los Angeles were in the last two seasons although Hawaii Five-0 had the name recognition while NCIS Los Angeles is a spin-off to the biggest drama on CBS. 16-17m is my guess and X Factor will be flat or slightly up.
AlexiR
23-09-2011
Originally Posted by Score:
“Some predictions:”

For what its worth you're skewing CBS too young. Maybe NBC to (at least at 8PM).

Originally Posted by Charnham:
“AlexiR your welcome ”

I wish I wasn't.
Dancc
23-09-2011
How do we think A Gifted Man will do? Fridays nights are tough. I'm kind of rooting for it simply because Julie Benz is in it and she's not had much luck since getting the chop from Dexter.
AlexiR
23-09-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“How do we think A Gifted Man will do? Fridays nights are tough. I'm kind of rooting for it simply because Julie Benz is in it and she's not had much luck since getting the chop from Dexter.”

Not well would be my guess. My guess would be a high 1 in the demo and then if its lucky it'll settle in the mid-1 range. I doubt that'll be enough to keep CBS happy though unless CSI: NY and/or Blue Bloods nosedive (which is certainly possible for Blue Bloods). Interesting factoid about a A Gifted Man CBS chose it over Ringer.

Friday is pretty terrifying though. Fringe, Supernatural and Chuck all airing on the same night (two of them in the same slot) plus Grimm has crazy fans written all over (although NBC may very well ship it off to Monday or Wednesday nights before it debuts). Crazy fans aplenty there.
Jonwo
23-09-2011
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Not well would be my guess. My guess would be a high 1 in the demo and then if its lucky it'll settle in the mid-1 range. I doubt that'll be enough to keep CBS happy though unless CSI: NY and/or Blue Bloods nosedive (which is certainly possible for Blue Bloods). Interesting factoid about a A Gifted Man CBS chose it over Ringer.”

Would Ringer have worked on CBS, I don't think it would have. A Gifted Man seems to be the successor to Ghost Whisperer and Medium as well as CBS' attempt to find a medical drama, think they should kept it for midseason and debuted The 2-2 which would have fit with the whole NY theme of Friday Nights.

I do wonder how The Good Wife will do on Sundays, CBS were doing okay with Amazing Race/Undercover Boss and CSI: Miami so having a drama for the first time in new years at 9pm will be interesting.
rzt
23-09-2011
A couple of digital channel overnights from yesterday:

X Factor USA debuted on ITV2 with 1.13m (4.92%) / 271,400 (1.36%) ITV2+1. Peaked with 1.53m (6.67%) at 9.50pm

Sky 1's first instalment of Glee drew 639,400 (2.82%).

Source: Michael Rosser
Bushmills
23-09-2011
Channel 5 had a bit of a disaster with Celebrity Swim last night - 600,000.

Here's BBC1 figures (don't have shares, I'm afraid)

TOS – 4.1m
EE – 7.7m
Watchdog – 4.1m
Crimewatch – 3.8m
News – 4.1m
cylon6
23-09-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“A couple of digital channel overnights from yesterday:

X Factor USA debuted on ITV2 with 1.13m (4.92%) / 271,400 (1.36%) ITV2+1. Peaked with 1.53m (6.67%) at 9.50pm

Sky 1's first instalment of Glee drew 639,400 (2.82%).

Source: Michael Rosser”

How much did Sky pay for Glee again.Channel 4 might have a little chuckle about that one.
rzt
23-09-2011
I had a feeling that Celebrity Swim show wouldn't be able to get 1m, but that's even lower than I expected. I think that's Channel 5's lowest 9pm overnight rating on a weeknight this year - only an Austin Powers movie on 3/1/11 has rated that low in the slot (607k).

Edit: Justin Lee Collins' show on 7/9/11 had 587k.

Bushmills- do you know how ITV1 and Big Brother rated last night?
rzt
23-09-2011
Three more ratings from yesterday:

Monty Hall’s Great Irish Escape (BBC2): 1.4m (6.1%)
Educating Essex (C4): 1.4m (6.2%) , +1: 204,025 (1.2%)
The Closer (More4): 225k (1.3%)

Source: Attentional
Bushmills
23-09-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“I

Bushmills- do you know how ITV1 and Big Brother rated last night? ”

BB got 1.3m

ITV (inc +1)

Emmerdale 6.6m
Rising Energy Prices: Tonight 3.3m
Emmerdale 6.9m
Coronation Street 7.9m
Billy Connolly's Route 66 4.9m
INews at Ten 2.1m
seansnotmyname@
23-09-2011
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“How much did Sky pay for Glee again.Channel 4 might have a little chuckle about that one. ”

It's a disaster for Sky TBH, horrid rating with all the hype.

Mixed feelings about it myself, like Glee but hate the Murdoch empire. E4 was it's natural home, Channel 4 will be quite happy with the rating, but it still did great things for E4, they've not really got a replacement for the ratings it got.

Everyone loses in this move really, and I guess the sales of all the merchandise around it will go massively down.
Dancc
23-09-2011
That's a disastrous rating for Glee. The marketing must have cost a fortune! It should have done a lot better than that.

I'm not too surprised by the Big Celebrity Swim rating, especially given the strength of multichannel in that slot which will always hurt Channel 5 more. BBC One viewers lap up this kind of programme but stick it on Channel 5 and nobody wants to watch - right. At least it was for good causes.

The X Factor USA was where I thought it would be - and achieved through much less promotion than Glee apparently.
fmradiotuner1
23-09-2011
Not great for Glee I also wonder how much the downloads will go up now also?
Poor night for Five to.
BeethovensPiano
23-09-2011
Hmmm so Glee's audiences has halved now its on Sky 1
AlexiR
23-09-2011
Sky have to be massively disappointed in that figure for Glee especially given all the promotion they've thrown behind it. I do wonder how much of that drop is down to the move to Sky and how much is just shadowing what happened in the US - fans giving up after a poor second season. Be interesting to see how much it gains via timeshift. Having said that despite its obvious success on E4 Glee always felt like an odd buy for Sky (to me at least).

And I would say this is just further proof that this 'airing right after the US' thing doesn't mean a huge amount ratings wise. E4 aired the opening of season 2 months after the US and it was up towards 2 million wasn't it?
Dancc
23-09-2011
Originally Posted by BeethovensPiano:
“Hmmm so Glee's audiences has halved now its on Sky 1”

It wouldn't be quite so bad if they hadn't been hyping it up to the max like it's the best thing since sliced bread.

As it is, it's pretty embarrassing. I thought more of the Sky faithful would tune in.
Roscoe Barnes
23-09-2011
Disaster for Glee after all the promotion. I'm shocked its so low. I expected at least 1m. Surely the only way is down now? Am I right in thinking Sky1 choose Thursday night as its just days after the states? Monday at 9pm would have been a better slot, like when E4 showed it. As usual, as soon as something moves to Sky1, the ratings sink!

TXF USA launched well with a solid 1.1m (and in line with how I thought it would rate). But surely TXF UK and USA will be too much for viewers?! Will be interesting to see how it holds up. BCR66 did well, with almost 5m (inc. +1) with more competition from the digital channels last night. BB continues to under perform. No one I know is talking about it at all. The soaps did OK. Will be interesting to see the ITV1 soaps excluding +1.
derek500
23-09-2011
Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“It's a disaster for Sky TBH, horrid rating with all the hype.”

If it was on a FTA channel, then yes. But Sky look at all showings across live, Sky+, Anytime, Anytime + and Go.
Dancc
23-09-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“If it was on a FTA channel, then yes. But Sky look at all showings across live, Sky+, Anytime, Anytime + and Go.”

Not buying into that, sorry. Attentional have an interesting comparison with other shows that have aired in the slot recently, and these are overnight figures excluding Sky+, Anytime, Anytime+ and Go also:

Quote:
“In the Thursday-night 9pm slot on Sky 1, recent titles include homegrown comedy Trollied, which gained strong audiences of 699,100 (2.98%), and Drama Mad Dogs, which attracted an even higher number of viewers, with 849,600 (3.4%).”

Source.

I don't remember either of the above shows getting as much hype as Glee. And of course neither had the established 2m+ base that E4 gifted it.
newkid30
23-09-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“If it was on a FTA channel, then yes. But Sky look at all showings across live, Sky+, Anytime, Anytime + and Go.”

Totally agree, most people with Sky+ record or watch on Anytime, totally different to FTA. In saying that I thought it would have got around 1m.
AlexiR
23-09-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Not buying into that, sorry. Attentional have an interesting comparison with other shows that have aired in the slot recently, and these are overnight figures excluding Sky+, Anytime, Anytime+ and Go also:”

Agreed.

No doubt Glee will grow to 1 million+ with timeshift and catch-up taken into account but given how much promotion they've given it they were obviously hoping it would be closer to 1 million before taking into account timeshift and catch-up.
rzt
23-09-2011
Thursday 22nd September Overnights
BBC One
13:45- Doctors: 1.44m (22.9%)
19:00- The One Show: 4.1m (21%)
19:30- EastEnders: 8.15m (38.4%)
20:00- Watchdog: 4.12m (17.7%)
21:00- Crimewatch: 3.82m (16.9%)
22:00- BBC News at Ten: 4.1m
22:35- Question Time: 2.22m (19.8%)

BBC Two
19:00- If Walls Could Talk: 1.3m (6.4%)
20:00- Monty Hall's Great Irish Escape: 1.43m (6.1%)
21:00- Britain's Flying Past: 1.99m (8.8%) inc HD
22:00- Mock The Week: 1.8m (9.4%)

ITV1
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.68m (34.8%) , +1: 120k (0.5%)
19:30- Rising Energy Prices: Tonight: 3.3m (inc +1)
20:00- Emmerdale: 6.82m (30.3%) , +1: 194k (0.9%)
20:30- Coronation Street: 7.68m (31.9%) , +1: 194k (0.9%)
21:00- Billy Connolly's Route 66: 4.71m (20.7%) , +1: 215k (1.2%)
22:00- News at Ten: 2.1m (inc +1)

Channel 4
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.06m (5.8%) , +1: 140k (0.7%)
20:00- Country House Rescue: 1.32m (5.6%) , +1: 187k (0.8%)
21:00- Educating Essex: 1.4m (6.2%) , +1: 204k (1.2%)
22:00- Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares: 1.08m (6.4%) , +1: 221k (2.4%)

Channel 5
13:45- Neighbours: 729k (11.4%)
17:30- Neighbours: 1.1m (7.8%)
18:00- Home and Away: 770k (4.7%)
19:30- How Do They Do It?: 444k (2.1%)
20:00- Killer Whales Attack: 911k (3.9%)
21:00- The Big Celebrity Swim: 596k (2.6%)
22:00- Big Brother: 1.31m (7.6%)
23:00- Big Brother's Bit On The Side: 525k (5.5%)

Primetime Shares
ITV1: 22.2% (+1: 0.7%)
BBC One: 20.7%
BBC Two: 7.1%
Channel 4: 5.2% (+1: 0.7%)
Channel 5: 3.7%

Ratings include HD and are tape-checked where necessary

Multichannel
5*
18:30- Home and Away: 399k (2.2%)

BBC Three
20:00- Don't Tell The Bride: 444k (1.9%)
21:00- Young Soldiers: 426k (1.9%)
22:00- EastEnders: 696k (3.6%)
22:30- Lee Nelson's Well Good Show: 523k (3.5%)

E4
19:00- Hollyoaks: 438k (2.3%)

ITV2
20:00- The X Factor USA: 1.13m (4.9%) , +1: 271k (1.4%)
* peak: 1.53m (6.67%) at 21.50
22:00- Celebrity Juice: 1.2m (6.6%) , +1: 230k (2.2%)

More4
22:00- The Closer: 225k (1.3%)

Sky 1
21:00- Glee: 639k (2.8%)

Sources: DS (1) (2)
RobbieSykes123
23-09-2011
Big drop for the Big Yin. A million viewers lost in a week.

Bodes well for Hidden in a fortnight.
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