I reckon tonight will be good for ITV1. DA should pull in 9 million and TXF should get 10.5 million. TXF seems to have hit a plateau- not going up, not going down- as either you love it or you don't and no one can argue with these sort of ratings in a cut throat market where a considerable percentage of the population( my sister is the obvious example) rarely bother with the two main channels.
The Ratings Thread (Part 25)
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Originally Posted by James J:
“Doctor Who criticisms make me seethe.”
“Doctor Who criticisms make me seethe.”
The only one that gets me is the 'its too complicated/clever' one.
Thats a superb official rating for Doc Martin, already pushing 10m and straight in as the 11th (will be 12th when Downton Abbey's official comes in tomorrow) most watched show of the year. I can see it hitting 11m by the end of the series too.
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Thats a superb official rating for Doc Martin, already pushing 10m and straight in as the 11th (will be 12th when Downton Abbey's official comes in tomorrow) most watched show of the year. I can see it hitting 11m by the end of the series too.”
“Thats a superb official rating for Doc Martin, already pushing 10m and straight in as the 11th (will be 12th when Downton Abbey's official comes in tomorrow) most watched show of the year. I can see it hitting 11m by the end of the series too.”
All of which means ITV can spend more on decent shows. These travelogues they're doing at the moment are good shows and Billy Connolly's Route 66 is excellent. I think Fincham has realised his predecessors obsessions with reality and soaps was costing them viewers. It is so nice to say I enjoyed watching an ITV1 show, where a few years ago I thought it was a dying network with little worth watching.
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Thats a superb official rating for Doc Martin, already pushing 10m and straight in as the 11th (will be 12th when Downton Abbey's official comes in tomorrow) most watched show of the year. I can see it hitting 11m by the end of the series too.”
“Thats a superb official rating for Doc Martin, already pushing 10m and straight in as the 11th (will be 12th when Downton Abbey's official comes in tomorrow) most watched show of the year. I can see it hitting 11m by the end of the series too.”
You don't think it'll be dented by Motorway Cops in a couple of weeks?
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Consolidated ratings for Saturday 17th September:
Doctor Who: 6.77m (28.3%)
All Star Family Fortunes: 5.39m (23.4%) [+1: 92k (0.4%)]
Also, Doc Martin timeshifted +1.42m for its first episode of the series to a consolidated rating of 9.85m [+1: 386k (1.9%)].”
“Consolidated ratings for Saturday 17th September:
Doctor Who: 6.77m (28.3%)
All Star Family Fortunes: 5.39m (23.4%) [+1: 92k (0.4%)]
Also, Doc Martin timeshifted +1.42m for its first episode of the series to a consolidated rating of 9.85m [+1: 386k (1.9%)].”
That's a HUGE rating for DM. 10.24m (inc. +1). Looks like its going to have a very successful run too judging from the episode 2 rating it achieved. DW obviously time shifting in front of ASFF. 1.38m ahead...I wonder if these ratings will get reported.
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“You don't think it'll be dented by Motorway Cops in a couple of weeks?”
“You don't think it'll be dented by Motorway Cops in a couple of weeks?
”
Motorway Cops is an annoyingly popular programme which put up a good show against ITV's Thursday 8pm soap hour a few weeks ago. It could indeed knock the Doc down a little bit.
So Celebrity Masterchef is basically an extend edition of Friday's show which itself in as edit of the week's shows (thanks Steve Williams for the earlier reply- can't believe I put 8 Out of The Ten Cats ). What on Earth are they doing??? BBC One held up ok for the rest of the night; not spectacularly, but decently. Doctor Who performed reasonably well and will timeshift. Match of the Day pulled in a great figure yet again.
Dad's Army is a very good performer for BBC Two; it's very consistent in that slot. QI performed ok considering it was up against part of The X Factor, Jonathan Ross and was just an extended edition from Friday night. Match of the Day 2 did reasonably well in the early evening slot considering it wasn't the most thrilling of games.
Family Fortunes recorded a good figure but won't timeshift much and will find it harder next week. Can we really say a show that claimed 10m performed poorly? Certainly relatively speaking The X Factor didn't do that well. Jonathan Ross should be doing better considering the lead in; I wish they would stop the stupid splitting of films for the news.
The Million Pound Drop Live is somewhat stranded in that schedule, and did ok considering. I wonder how long it will be before Come Dine With Me takes over Saturday night completely? Dambusters struggled in the 7.30pm slot.
Channel 5 will be relieved Big Brother held up above the 1m mark but it was a poor night for them otherwise. The American crime dramas are really being affected being shoved out of their usual slots though I suppose the film wasn't a disaster at 6pm.
). What on Earth are they doing??? BBC One held up ok for the rest of the night; not spectacularly, but decently. Doctor Who performed reasonably well and will timeshift. Match of the Day pulled in a great figure yet again.Dad's Army is a very good performer for BBC Two; it's very consistent in that slot. QI performed ok considering it was up against part of The X Factor, Jonathan Ross and was just an extended edition from Friday night. Match of the Day 2 did reasonably well in the early evening slot considering it wasn't the most thrilling of games.
Family Fortunes recorded a good figure but won't timeshift much and will find it harder next week. Can we really say a show that claimed 10m performed poorly? Certainly relatively speaking The X Factor didn't do that well. Jonathan Ross should be doing better considering the lead in; I wish they would stop the stupid splitting of films for the news.
The Million Pound Drop Live is somewhat stranded in that schedule, and did ok considering. I wonder how long it will be before Come Dine With Me takes over Saturday night completely? Dambusters struggled in the 7.30pm slot.
Channel 5 will be relieved Big Brother held up above the 1m mark but it was a poor night for them otherwise. The American crime dramas are really being affected being shoved out of their usual slots though I suppose the film wasn't a disaster at 6pm.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Motorway Cops is an annoyingly popular programme which put up a good show against ITV's Thursday 8pm soap hour a few weeks ago. It could indeed knock the Doc down a little bit.”
“Motorway Cops is an annoyingly popular programme which put up a good show against ITV's Thursday 8pm soap hour a few weeks ago. It could indeed knock the Doc down a little bit.”
What's annoying about the popularity of Traffic/Motorway Cops?
It's an informative and well made show, usually critically well received. Far better than the cheapo Road Wars type shows that are simply entertainment, or ITV's Police Camera Action where the entertainment is interspersed with fatuous voiceovers from a twice convicted drink driver.....
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Really!
Lol-probably better not to have asked
”
“Really!
Lol-probably better not to have asked
”
I think that's what it was called, anyway! Steve Williams will be able to tell us one way or another!
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Thats a superb official rating for Doc Martin, already pushing 10m and straight in as the 11th (will be 12th when Downton Abbey's official comes in tomorrow) most watched show of the year. I can see it hitting 11m by the end of the series too.”
“Thats a superb official rating for Doc Martin, already pushing 10m and straight in as the 11th (will be 12th when Downton Abbey's official comes in tomorrow) most watched show of the year. I can see it hitting 11m by the end of the series too.”
It is indeed a superb rating. But, as someone who has watched it from the very start, and who has always loved it, I'm really disappointed by this latest series. We're two episodes in and I've laughed precisely once.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“What's annoying about the popularity of Traffic/Motorway Cops?
It's an informative and well made show, usually critically well received. Far better than the cheapo Road Wars type shows that are simply entertainment, or ITV's Police Camera Action where the entertainment is interspersed with fatuous voiceovers from a twice convicted drink driver.....”
“What's annoying about the popularity of Traffic/Motorway Cops?
It's an informative and well made show, usually critically well received. Far better than the cheapo Road Wars type shows that are simply entertainment, or ITV's Police Camera Action where the entertainment is interspersed with fatuous voiceovers from a twice convicted drink driver.....”
You could take any episode of Police Camera Action or Road Wars, stick it on BBC1 with the Traffic/Motorway Cops name and noone would notice the difference. All of those shows are identical.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“All of which means ITV can spend more on decent shows. These travelogues they're doing at the moment are good shows and Billy Connolly's Route 66 is excellent. I think Fincham has realised his predecessors obsessions with reality and soaps was costing them viewers. It is so nice to say I enjoyed watching an ITV1 show, where a few years ago I thought it was a dying network with little worth watching.”
“All of which means ITV can spend more on decent shows. These travelogues they're doing at the moment are good shows and Billy Connolly's Route 66 is excellent. I think Fincham has realised his predecessors obsessions with reality and soaps was costing them viewers. It is so nice to say I enjoyed watching an ITV1 show, where a few years ago I thought it was a dying network with little worth watching.”
Fincham is just as obsessed with soaps as his predecessors, and instead of giving us crap reality, has given us crap entertainment (Marriage Ref, Born To Shine, Holding Out For a Hero, Show Me The Funny, Red or Black)
Doc Martin isn't his, and the celebrity travelogues also pre-date him (Clunes/Dogs, Connolly/NW Passage, Rhys-Jones/Cities, Coltrane/B-Road Britain to name a few) Fair enough, Connolly/Route 66 is doing well (and is a good series) but others have been dire. eg, Quentin/India. We haven't actually seen the other stuff yet.
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“Fincham is just as obsessed with soaps as his predecessors, and instead of giving us crap reality, has given us crap entertainment (Marriage Ref, Born To Shine, Holding Out For a Hero, Show Me The Funny, Red or Black)
Doc Martin isn't his, and the celebrity travelogues also pre-date him (Clunes/Dogs, Connolly/NW Passage, Rhys-Jones/Cities, Coltrane/B-Road Britain to name a few) Fair enough, Connolly/Route 66 is doing well (and is a good series) but others have been dire. eg, Quentin/India. We haven't actually seen the other stuff yet.”
“Fincham is just as obsessed with soaps as his predecessors, and instead of giving us crap reality, has given us crap entertainment (Marriage Ref, Born To Shine, Holding Out For a Hero, Show Me The Funny, Red or Black)
Doc Martin isn't his, and the celebrity travelogues also pre-date him (Clunes/Dogs, Connolly/NW Passage, Rhys-Jones/Cities, Coltrane/B-Road Britain to name a few) Fair enough, Connolly/Route 66 is doing well (and is a good series) but others have been dire. eg, Quentin/India. We haven't actually seen the other stuff yet.”
Elaine Beddell is probably to blame for entertainment. Her track record is awful.
What ITV has at the moment is a older-skewing schedule... don't tell me that Abbey, Martin and Connolly aren't
But the question is, what's better financially for ITV? Paddy's Take Me Out appealing to a healthy 4m or Downton Abbey pulling in an ageing 10m.
Therein lies the debate which we've all been having with ourselves for years - which road should ITV go down?
Predictably (like many) I think there should be a balance between the 16-34 heavy and the ABC1 heavy, like there is this autumn (as it leads to high ratings across the board).
To be honest, I'm surprised ITV hasn't had a on-screen revamp, as I've always thought the yellow look has been pretty tacky.
Originally Posted by Grenade:
“You could take any episode of Police Camera Action or Road Wars, stick it on BBC1 with the Traffic/Motorway Cops name and noone would notice the difference. All of those shows are identical.”
“You could take any episode of Police Camera Action or Road Wars, stick it on BBC1 with the Traffic/Motorway Cops name and noone would notice the difference. All of those shows are identical.”
With respect, that rather suggests you don't actually watch any of them. Or at least not Motorway Cops!
Great documentary on BBC1 tonight about Alfred Wainwright. Most of you won't have seen it as it was only shown on BBC North, the rest of you getting the Favourite Joke repeat. Should have been networked, given how popular the Wainwright stuff has been on BBC2/BBC4.
Originally Posted by PJMillar:
“Elaine Beddell is probably to blame for entertainment. Her track record is awful.
”
“Elaine Beddell is probably to blame for entertainment. Her track record is awful.
”
True, but who appointed her, and who rubber-stamps her commissions?
(I agree with the rest of your post btw)
Originally Posted by Grenade:
“You could take any episode of Police Camera Action or Road Wars, stick it on BBC1 with the Traffic/Motorway Cops name and noone would notice the difference. All of those shows are identical.”
“You could take any episode of Police Camera Action or Road Wars, stick it on BBC1 with the Traffic/Motorway Cops name and noone would notice the difference. All of those shows are identical.”
That is crap, actually. M/way cops is an obs-doc series whereas the others are essentially clip shows.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“It just gives a loose indication that's all. I haven't noticed any other UK TV trends (yet).”
“It just gives a loose indication that's all. I haven't noticed any other UK TV trends (yet).”
(Bangs head off desk)
It doesn't matter. At all.
Originally Posted by JCR:
“(Bangs head off desk)
It doesn't matter. At all.”
“(Bangs head off desk)
It doesn't matter. At all.”
It loosely shows the demographic.
Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.32m
18:30 Sunday Night 1.30m
19:30 Wild Boys 1.10m
*series low.
20:30 Bones (R) 0.75m
21:30 Castle (R) 0.50m
Nine
18:00 Nine News Sunday 1.15m
18:35 RBT 0.91m
19:35 60 Minutes 1.11m
20:40 Underbelly: Razor 1.40m
*series low;
*comfortably the top rated show of the night in all demographics, as well as Total People.
21:40 New Series: Person of Interest 0.79m
Ten
18:00 Ten Evening News 0.39m
18:30 The Renovators 0.69m
19:30 New Series: Junior MasterChef 1.13m
*down 49% on series 1 launch on September 12 2010.
20:30 NCIS (R) 0.66m
21:30 NCIS (R) 0.51m
ABC1
19:00 ABC News 0.74m
19:30 Grand Designs Revisited 0.84m
20:30 The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency 0.73m
18:00 Seven News 1.32m
18:30 Sunday Night 1.30m
19:30 Wild Boys 1.10m
*series low.
20:30 Bones (R) 0.75m
21:30 Castle (R) 0.50m
Nine
18:00 Nine News Sunday 1.15m
18:35 RBT 0.91m
19:35 60 Minutes 1.11m
20:40 Underbelly: Razor 1.40m
*series low;
*comfortably the top rated show of the night in all demographics, as well as Total People.
21:40 New Series: Person of Interest 0.79m
Ten
18:00 Ten Evening News 0.39m
18:30 The Renovators 0.69m
19:30 New Series: Junior MasterChef 1.13m
*down 49% on series 1 launch on September 12 2010.
20:30 NCIS (R) 0.66m
21:30 NCIS (R) 0.51m
ABC1
19:00 ABC News 0.74m
19:30 Grand Designs Revisited 0.84m
20:30 The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency 0.73m
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Ten
18:00 Ten Evening News 0.39m
18:30 The Renovators 0.69m
19:30 New Series: Junior MasterChef 1.13m
*down 49% on series 1 launch on September 12 2010.
20:30 NCIS (R) 0.66m
21:30 NCIS (R) 0.51m”
“Ten
18:00 Ten Evening News 0.39m
18:30 The Renovators 0.69m
19:30 New Series: Junior MasterChef 1.13m
*down 49% on series 1 launch on September 12 2010.
20:30 NCIS (R) 0.66m
21:30 NCIS (R) 0.51m”
Thanks for the numbers, Dan.
Are the wheels coming off the Masterchef wagon? After a pretty disappointing finale for the main show - thats a very troubling opening for the spin off. Should cause major concern within Ten - from the looks of their numbers since that finale, they haven't got an awful lot of other hits to fall back on if their no. 1 franchise starts choking like that...
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“It is indeed a superb rating. But, as someone who has watched it from the very start, and who has always loved it, I'm really disappointed by this latest series. We're two episodes in and I've laughed precisely once.”
“It is indeed a superb rating. But, as someone who has watched it from the very start, and who has always loved it, I'm really disappointed by this latest series. We're two episodes in and I've laughed precisely once.”
I agree from a quality POV that the two episodes so far havent been that good. I was shocked to see that the AI for episode 1 was 90. A score of 90 is supposed to be for an exceptional piece of TV, it wasnt bad but it no way would I say exceptional.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“With respect, that rather suggests you don't actually watch any of them. Or at least not Motorway Cops!
Great documentary on BBC1 tonight about Alfred Wainwright. Most of you won't have seen it as it was only shown on BBC North, the rest of you getting the Favourite Joke repeat. Should have been networked, given how popular the Wainwright stuff has been on BBC2/BBC4.”
“With respect, that rather suggests you don't actually watch any of them. Or at least not Motorway Cops!
Great documentary on BBC1 tonight about Alfred Wainwright. Most of you won't have seen it as it was only shown on BBC North, the rest of you getting the Favourite Joke repeat. Should have been networked, given how popular the Wainwright stuff has been on BBC2/BBC4.”
Curious bit of programming this as English regions rarely have opt-outs on Sunday nights.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Not sure this one has been on C5 before. I thought it had, but I just looked and the last FTA UK network to screen it was ITV1 in December.
EDIT: It has - Channel 5's 23rd most watched programme of all time incidentally, pulling nearly 4m in 2000.”
“Not sure this one has been on C5 before. I thought it had, but I just looked and the last FTA UK network to screen it was ITV1 in December.
EDIT: It has - Channel 5's 23rd most watched programme of all time incidentally, pulling nearly 4m in 2000.”
Yes, and it was also premiered on Channel Five in its second ever week on air, on Sunday 6th April 1997. Those were the days when Five's big films always turned up on BBC1 not long after and so they showed it at Christmas.
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Kevin O'Sullivan's reply to Doctor Who Magazine's tweet saying that they're going to stop tweeting overnight figures from now on:
The official ratings are a distortion. The overnights reflect a programme's true popularity.”
“Kevin O'Sullivan's reply to Doctor Who Magazine's tweet saying that they're going to stop tweeting overnight figures from now on:
The official ratings are a distortion. The overnights reflect a programme's true popularity.”
I'm sure O'Sullivan will be saying that when they take all the bulk and free copies out of the Sunday Mirror's circulation figures. What an idiot.
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“I think that's what it was called, anyway! Steve Williams will be able to tell us one way or another!”
“I think that's what it was called, anyway! Steve Williams will be able to tell us one way or another!”
I should install a special phoneline for ratings enquiries. Anyway, yes, this started off as Come And Have A Go If You Think You're Smart Enough, the dull quiz with Nicky Campbell that ran in 2004 with the red button gimmick, which flopped. Then they rehashed it as a lottery show with Clary, under the clunky name of The National Lottery Come And Have A Go, which didn't work either. That was at the same time as the first series of Doctor Who.
In other news, get your stopwatches out as Saturday's Match of the Day is billed as lasting ninety minutes despite it having fewer games than this week's eighty minute episode. I wonder if they're expecting Strictly to overrun and for it to start later than 10.30...
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“Thanks for the numbers, Dan.
Are the wheels coming off the Masterchef wagon? After a pretty disappointing finale for the main show - thats a very troubling opening for the spin off. Should cause major concern within Ten - from the looks of their numbers since that finale, they haven't got an awful lot of other hits to fall back on if their no. 1 franchise starts choking like that...”
“Thanks for the numbers, Dan.
Are the wheels coming off the Masterchef wagon? After a pretty disappointing finale for the main show - thats a very troubling opening for the spin off. Should cause major concern within Ten - from the looks of their numbers since that finale, they haven't got an awful lot of other hits to fall back on if their no. 1 franchise starts choking like that...”
It seems that way, doesn't it? It did grow over the course of the hour and won its timeslot in all key demographics and Total People (narrowly), beating first run Aus drama Wild Boys, but it's still a disappointing result considering where it started last year. Not unexpected though considering Ten's fortunes generally recently:
7.30pm-7.45pm: 966,000
7.45pm-8.00pm: 1,089,000
8.00pm-8.15pm: 1,155,000
8.15pm-8.30pm: 1,238,000
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