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Old 27-09-2011, 17:02
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Poor start for Terra Nova. No doubt about it - it should have done better than that and it definitely won't be sticking around unless it holds all that audience.

Great night for CBS - their comedies are off to an absolute flying start to the season. Incredibly strong numbers - and reward for the efforts they've put into building such a strong roster - something the other networks are now trying to follow.

A night to forget for ABC and NBC. The latter might not have been expecting a whole lot else, but there must be concerns for the former about DWTS. This seasons could be a really tough one - especially when The Voice returns to add to the Monday pile-up in February.

Top 10 18-49 Demo
No duplicate episodes

1. Two and a Half Men – 10.7
2. Sunday Night Football – 8.3
3. Two Broke Girls – 7.1
4. Modern Family 6.1
5. How I Met Your Mother – 5.1
6. The Big Bang Theory – 5.1
7. New Girl – 4.8
8. The X Factor – 4.4
9. NCIS – 4.3
=10. Criminal Minds – 4.1
=10. Grey’s Anatomy – 4.1
=10. Family Guy – 4.1
Victory for comedy! Amazing level of dominance and it makes it quite obvious why the networks are placing such emphasis on them. I wish British broadcasters saw the same opportunity...
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Old 27-09-2011, 17:02
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A very strong night for CBS. Two And A Half Men still as high as a 7.2! Even Hawaii Five-0 looks strong this week. I think Fox will be gutted with how Terra Nova launched, I kind of got the impression they were hoping for at least a 4.0 for the premiere episode. It will probably drop into the mid 2's within a few weeks. A shame because it is good to see networks investing big money into dramas and scripted shows.
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Old 27-09-2011, 17:03
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Re: twitter:

It loosely shows the demographic.
WWE got the phrase "anal bleeding" trending worldwide last night because of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcynGXqLn4A

I'm not sure how this helps show WWE's demographic, or helps them at all. It means nothing.
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Old 27-09-2011, 17:09
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has is been comfirmed if Strictly and X Factor will clash. If not when will it be?
Looks like it.

Sat 8th Oct

BBC One

17:05 Celebrity Masterchef
18:05 Strictly Come Dancing
20:00 Merlin
20:45 National Lottery : Secret Fortune
21:35 Casualty

ITV1

17:30 New You've Been Framed !
18:00 All Star Family Fortunes
19:00 Harry Hill's TV Burp
19:30 The X Factor
22:00 The Jonathan Ross Show

Is there no Sunday SCD this year ?
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Old 27-09-2011, 17:11
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Is it too early to talk Christmas? Wondering if ITV will put Downton Abbey's Christmas special on Christmas Day this year or go for the more lucrative option of Sunday 18th after The X Factor final.

Was wondering, do people think the whole 'no advertising interest' thing is truly down to no one wanting to advertise then, or because ITV never puts effort in?

Personally I'd love to see ITV just throw a completely random, different schedule with peculiar runtimes out there and see what the BBC do back!

3.00pm- The Queen
3.10pm- Film
4.50pm- The Cube: Christmas Special
5.50pm- News
6.00pm- Emmerdale
7.00pm- The X Factor: Winner's Story
8.00pm- Coronation Street (Part 1)
8.30pm- Downton Abbey: Christmas Special
9.45pm- Coronation Street (Part 2)
10.25pm- News
11.00pm- Film

Make sure Corrie's got a humungous storyline, trail it to high heaven, stick the Downton Abbey Christmas special in the middle of it... would be fascinating to see what BBC1 did against that. Yet another year of Doctor Who, EastEnders, Strictly Come Dancing and The Royle Family?

Surely with a schedule like that, advertiser interest would be higher?

Of course it won't happen. Actual ITV1 schedule:

6.00pm- The Cube: Christmas Special
7.00pm- Emmerdale
8.00pm- Coronation Street
9.00pm- Poirot / Marple
11.00pm- News

Job's a good'un.
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Old 27-09-2011, 17:14
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Jeremy Kyle's High Stakes gameshow is getting buried on Tuesday nights at 8pm.

I'd have put it Sundays, can't be any worse than Holding out for a Hero
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Old 27-09-2011, 17:17
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10.35pm Exposure: Gaddafi and the IRA 1.13m (9.3%)
I wonder if this will affect future 'exposures' ratings? (or won't people be bothered by 'accuracy')

The documentary seems to have included footage from a video game which it passed off as actual footage taken by the IRA!

http://storyful.com/stories/1000008601

(the story has also been reported by digitalspy, and other sources)
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Old 27-09-2011, 17:17
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Looks like it.

Sat 8th Oct

BBC One

17:05 Celebrity Masterchef
18:05 Strictly Come Dancing
20:00 Merlin
20:45 National Lottery : Secret Fortune
21:35 Casualty

ITV1

17:30 New You've Been Framed !
18:00 All Star Family Fortunes
19:00 Harry Hill's TV Burp
19:30 The X Factor
22:00 The Jonathan Ross Show

Is there no Sunday SCD this year ?
I Don't know. rzt said that it's going to be at 7:30 on sunday but i can't see it comfirmed anywhere
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Old 27-09-2011, 17:28
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I wonder if this will affect future 'exposures' ratings? (or won't people be bothered by 'accuracy')

The documentary seems to have included footage from a video game which it passed off as actual footage taken by the IRA!

http://storyful.com/stories/1000008601

(the story has also been reported by digitalspy, and other sources)
Incredible.

The programme's reputation is in the toilet after only a single episode.
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Old 27-09-2011, 17:28
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I see from the thread on the topic that US TV is starting to screen the next batch of Law and Order UK episodes (the last ones maybe???) whereas we will have to wait several more months.

Seems strange that as UK channels are fast tracking US shows here with inevitable stop/start scheduling - in order to avoid tempting viewers to watch them via other means - ITV do the exact opposite with one of their own series.

Not for the first time, of course.
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Old 27-09-2011, 17:35
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I wonder if this will affect future 'exposures' ratings? (or won't people be bothered by 'accuracy')

The documentary seems to have included footage from a video game which it passed off as actual footage taken by the IRA!

http://storyful.com/stories/1000008601

(the story has also been reported by digitalspy, and other sources)
Yes silly mistake but there were no new revelations in the documentary anyway. It was more of a re-telling of known facts. I think you could call it more of a history documentary than an investigative programme.
So not sure what the point of it was, other than giving the history of the relationship?
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Old 27-09-2011, 17:37
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A night to forget for ABC and NBC. The latter might not have been expecting a whole lot else, but there must be concerns for the former about DWTS. This seasons could be a really tough one - especially when The Voice returns to add to the Monday pile-up in February.
Potentially ABC have some major problems ahead of themselves and appear to be on the verge of a schedule collapse greater than the one we’ve seen at NBC. For all the problems NBC have they at least have football (plus The Office has remained a hit) which has helped keep them afloat but at this point ABC has Modern Family and that’s it. It seems to me that its asking an awful lot of one 30 minute slot to carry an entire network and with Dancing and Grey’s both sinking and Housewives set to end with a whimper and no new breakout hits to be seen that’s where ABC is heading. This could be quite a spectacular implosion to watch. And you’re right The Voice at midseason is only going to make matters worse for them.

Victory for comedy! Amazing level of dominance and it makes it quite obvious why the networks are placing such emphasis on them. I wish British broadcasters saw the same opportunity...
Danny Cohen has been telling everyone he wants more comedy on BBC1 so he at least seems to have been paying attention. This explosion of comedy has been in the works for a couple of years in the US though. It was around 2009 that everyone started talking up comedy again and slowly but surely that's started to see some tangible results.

It will probably drop into the mid 2's within a few weeks. A shame because it is good to see networks investing big money into dramas and scripted shows.
I agree its a shame Terra Nova hasn't worked as Fox hoped. It would be nice to see the broadcast networks going for scale and ambition and not just leaving it to HBO and to a lesser extent Showtime.

WWE got the phrase "anal bleeding" trending worldwide last night because of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcynGXqLn4A
This is great.
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Old 27-09-2011, 17:40
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I wonder if this will affect future 'exposures' ratings? (or won't people be bothered by 'accuracy')

The documentary seems to have included footage from a video game which it passed off as actual footage taken by the IRA!

http://storyful.com/stories/1000008601

(the story has also been reported by digitalspy, and other sources)
LOL. Did no one check this when making the show or airing it? The footage quite clearly is computer generated. Incredible!
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Old 27-09-2011, 17:43
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LOL. Did no one check this when making the show or airing it? The footage quite clearly is computer generated. Incredible!
Obviously not!

Unsurprisingly the programme's just been removed from the ITVplayer

EDIT: ITV response (reported in the Telegraph)

"The events featured in Exposure: Gaddafi and the IRA were genuine but it would appear that during the editing process the correct clip of the 1988 incident was not selected and other footage was mistakenly included in the film by producers.... This was an unfortunate case of human error for which we apologise.. the documentary would be re-edited to include the real footage before being made availabe again online"
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Old 27-09-2011, 18:11
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DigiGuide has updated and we appear to have reached a stalemate with no change to the Strictly/TXF airtimes on Saturday 8th October. Last chance saloon to rectify that tomorrow, otherwise the two programmes will clash for half an hour between 7:30pm and 8pm.

In other news, Channel 4 is keeping those premieres coming. Transformers 2 will surely put a dent into the Strictly/TXF result programmes on Sunday 9th October, running 6:10pm to 9pm.
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Old 27-09-2011, 18:11
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Yes silly mistake but there were no new revelations in the documentary anyway. It was more of a re-telling of known facts. I think you could call it more of a history documentary than an investigative programme.
So not sure what the point of it was, other than giving the history of the relationship?
So why were ITV touting it as a 'major new current affairs series'? If it had nothing new to say, why did they call it "Exposure"? If it was simply a cut-and-paste history job, why did they take out full page ads in yesterday's broadsheets?
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Old 27-09-2011, 18:16
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So why were ITV touting it as a 'major new current affairs series'? If it had nothing new to say, why did they call it "Exposure"? If it was simply a cut-and-paste history job, why did they take out full page ads in yesterday's broadsheets?
i've no idea! my comments are just those of someone who watched a bit of it last night.
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Old 27-09-2011, 18:17
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So why were ITV touting it as a 'major new current affairs series'? If it had nothing new to say, why did they call it "Exposure"? If it was simply a cut-and-paste history job, why did they take out full page ads in yesterday's broadsheets?
Because they wanted people to watch it...?
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Old 27-09-2011, 18:18
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Horrible night for BBC 1 and Channel 5.
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Old 27-09-2011, 18:21
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Horrible night for BBC 1 and Channel 5.
The Hotel Inspector returns to the latter next week to end their recent Monday night woes. From the trailer currently airing on the channel it looks like a classic!

Alex's last series.
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Old 27-09-2011, 18:22
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Awful for Terra Nova. Odds against it getting a second series already.
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Old 27-09-2011, 18:28
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I asked this question a few hours ago but where has rzt got to? he hasn't been on here for a couple of days?
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Old 27-09-2011, 18:30
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I knew this would get someone's goat.

In the 16-34 demographic which Channel 5 are chasing with Big Brother:

1) it will have scored higher than BBC One's offerings from 8:30pm-10pm;
2) it would not have trailed Doc Martin the top rated non-soap programme of the night by much more than about 300k despite that show have around 6 times as many viewers in Total People.

Whilst Big Brother has been a disappointment so far compared to what it used to get on Channel 4, it is still rating strongly for Channel 5 compared to the average and the trend for the past 3 days has been encouraging with all of those shows up on the equivalent in the previous week. It's not the disaster some on here want to make it out to be.

For now at least, and annoyingly for the many haters, Big Brother would appear to be stable. The only real concern in the past 7 days has been Friday's eviction shows, which appeared to take a knock from Sky TV of all things.
Totally understand what you are saying, but wasn't that always a given that it would do well in those demos? It;s not done anything extra ordinary for the channel considering the expectation, hype and money spent. I would say Big Brother will be seen as a big disappointment to those at Channel 5 HQ considering it was supposed to mark a big new start for the broadcaster...
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Old 27-09-2011, 18:56
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I asked this question a few hours ago but where has rzt got to? he hasn't been on here for a couple of days?
I'm sure he's ok. He PM'd me with his ratings predictions last night. Maybe he's just busy at the moment.
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Old 27-09-2011, 18:59
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The Hotel Inspector returns to the latter next week to end their recent Monday night woes. From the trailer currently airing on the channel it looks like a classic!

Alex's last series.


Will her departure affect the ratings?
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