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Here's the line-ups for Saturday 1st October:
BBC One 14:55 - Don't Scare the Hare ![]() 16:00 - Celebrity MasterChef 16:30 - Final Score 17:10 - BBC News 17:30 - Celebrity MasterChef 18:00 - Strictly Come Dancing 19:05 - Doctor Who 19:50 - Merlin 20:35 - Secret Fortune 21:25 - Casualty 22:15 - BBC News 22:30 - MOTD ITV1 18:00 - You've Been Framed 18:30 - All Star Family Fortunes 19:30 - The X Factor 21:25 - The Jonathan Ross Show 22:25 - ITV News 22:40 - FILM: Shaun of The Dead Thanks to Doc12 on Gallifrey Base One has to assume one of the following will happen: a) BBC1's lineup will move 30 minutes back with Strictly starting at 17:30(!) b) ITV1's lineup will move 30 minutes forward c) Nothing happens and X Factor/Doctor Who clash |
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How the BBC can defend the Celebrity MasterChef scheduling is beyond me. It's an unmitigated disaster and depressing to watch unfold. And just when you thought it couldn't get any more ridiculous, they put forward a schedule with two separate episodes at 4pm and 5:30pm on a Saturday!
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Also on a random note- It's the 100th episode of Shameless next Tuesday night and the slot it 10.00-11.45pm. That seems incredibily long me, and I can't see it bringing in a big overnight at a length like that. I know 100 episodes is a landmark for the show, but that duration is ridiculous IMO (and I'm saying that as a fan of the show).
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Signing up Ashton Kutcher was a masterstroke for Two and a Half Men; his appointment meaning some of the hype from Charlie Sheen's sudden departure continued into the new series and it picked up a...I don't think there's a big enough superlative for the kind of figure it got! 2 Broke Girls benefited and pulled in a great figure for its premiere. Hawaii Five-0 may be moved if it can't do more with the lead in; posssibly not the overall 3.4 figure but the fact it lost 0.6 over the hour. Still a good rating for it.
Dancing with the Stars was always going to be dented by the CBS line up and this may be the case where the series gains on the launch instead of dropping slightly. Castle did very well to practically match Hawaii Five-0 in the demo with a much smaller lead in demo wise. Hell's Kitchen put up a fight for FOX. I can see the logic of ignoring premiere week and starting the shows the week after; that way they can produce some hype after the other channels have settled into their schedules. Terra Nova and The X Factor have a lot to live up to looking at last night! Considering the opposition, I guess The Sing Off didn't perform too badly. The Playboy Club was squeezed by consistent performers and it probably won't bounce back from that. |
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105 minutes is awfully long, think 90 minutes would have been succifient, if Channel 4 really wanted to celebrate the 100th episode, they have delayed Mary Portas by a week and aired Shameless at 9pm.
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When's TV Burp back? .
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Here's the line-ups for Saturday 1st October:
BBC One 18:00 - Strictly Come Dancing 19:05 - Doctor Who 19:50 - Merlin 20:35 - Secret Fortune 21:25 - Casualty 22:15 - BBC News 22:30 - MOTD Cram it in, BBC!!! Cram it all in!!!The following week Strictly will fill Dr Who's slot with a mammoth close to two hour show. The following three programmes could start a little bit later cos there will be no MOTD. 8th October will be the last Secret Fortune. Quote:
Looking at the Radio times Site it looks like Doctor who is going to clash with The X Factor. I Hope that doesn't happen or Doctor Who could be Below 5m
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8th October I believe.
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ITV1 shouldn't throw The X Factor around the schedule in that case. Keep it around the 8pm slot, and move everything 20-30 minutes later in the schedule.
that said if the might X-Factor should be able to stand a few schedule changes. Where else will ITV viewers get there fill of "mock the mentally unwell" now that Jeremy Kyle is off to the states. |
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I don't think Dr Who would be hurt that much, given it's the series finale. It's good for a 5.5 million overnight even against X Factor.
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Wonder if the huge success of CBS Mondays will put pressure on The Big Bang Theory? Thursday is crucial as it's the first time in ten years that CSI isn't on at 9pm and PoI has been hyped and marketed heavily. I'm going to say for The Big Bang Theory 13-14m, Person of Interest 16-17m and The Mentalist 15-16m
Secondly I don't think there's any more pressure on The Big Bang Theory than there was last week. It was always going to need to produce a big number because its anchoring a big night for them. I don't think anyone would realistically expect it to perform in the same league as the 9PM hour did for CBS last night though. Ultimately I suspect CBS are looking for a 4+ from it. Not that I think that'll be enough to help Person of Interest over the long run. Quote:
I don't think last season damaged Kevin Reilly/Peter Rice, but if this season doesn't go well, then they'll definitely be under pressure.
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Terra Nova needs to succeed or it will be an expensive writeoff. House I think this will be the final season although if neither TN or Alcatraz, I could see House getting a one season reprieve to wrap things up.
FOX has The Flintstones in 2013 and also Cosmos so I think they'll be ordering less new shows and of course cancelling shows that are underperforming. I also fully expect Fox to hold steady with the 2-3 new drama and 2-3 new comedy pick-ups we've seen recently. Of course if The X Factor bombs that number may very well rise. Quote:
Signing up Ashton Kutcher was a masterstroke for Two and a Half Men...
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Amongst all the other discussion the news about Michael McIntyre quitting BGT seems to have gone under the radar a bit. I have to say I'm quite surprised, as I thought he would definitely return. It all sounds like a friendly parting of the ways but The Mirror suggests ITV kept him waiting around for dates and he couldn't wait any longer to work out when he needed to keep free. Sounds like Syco's usual last minute antics have cost them this time as McIntyre was an asset to the show.
With the Hoff gone it looks like they're down to Amanda again. I said it last year and I'll say it again, I think it's time for her to go. Unfortunately she seems desperate to stay and I think she'll remain on the panel. As for new judges, David Walliams is being talked about again and I think he'll do it this time. Cheryl would get the media talking in a way that BGT hasn't really done for a couple of years. They could switch to 2 females and one male, but I think they could do with an 'alpha male' character as well, and with Amanda unlikely to go they might want to bring a fourth judge in. I'd like Cowell to return full time but he probably won't. With it being a fairly small commitment maybe they could get Robbie Williams or someone like that to do it (Robbie might be a good shout as with Gary doing X Factor Take That are very much 'friends' of Cowell's shows. If not, maybe with 2 new judges it could be worth giving the Hoff another go. He wasn't bad at all last year and probably deserves another shot. |
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Charlie Sheen = ratings on cable as well. His Comedy Central Roast scored a 3.8 in the demo and 6.4 million viewers.
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Adjustments to the US numbers for finals and the CBS line-up got even bigger.
Two and a Half Men - 10.7 (+0.4) 2 Broke Girls - 7.1 (+0.1) How I Met Your Mother - 5.2 (+0.1) Hell's Kitchen - 2.6 (+0.1) Dancing with the Stars - 4.0 (+0.1) Castle - 3.2 (-0.1) And the final minutes of Two and a Half Men had an 11.4 in the demo and more than 31 million viewers. |
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I think it is safe to say that CBS has a future without the CSI Franchise, I do think NY and Miami will be gone within the next few years and Vegas, I think CBS will give it a final season but not just yet as they need to see how it performs with Ted Danson as the new lead.
I wonder whether NCIS: Los Angeles will ever move from Tuesdays at 9pm as it has its own audience and I think the NCIS lead in could be used to help a new show. |
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Do any Doctor Who fans know if the final episode is only 45 minutes long? Sometimes the final episode of an individual series is longer.
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I know, hence why I have been looking, but so far nothing.
BBC Press has the Doctor run finale running for 1 hour, Digiguide has 45 minutes, so who knows what is going on there. |
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The bbfc have the DW finale running for 45 minutes 22 seconds. While it's possible they've made a mistake, it's unlikely: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/AVV283406/
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Amongst all the other discussion the news about Michael McIntyre quitting BGT seems to have gone under the radar a bit. I have to say I'm quite surprised, as I thought he would definitely return. It all sounds like a friendly parting of the ways but The Mirror suggests ITV kept him waiting around for dates and he couldn't wait any longer to work out when he needed to keep free. Sounds like Syco's usual last minute antics have cost them this time as McIntyre was an asset to the show.
With the Hoff gone it looks like they're down to Amanda again. I said it last year and I'll say it again, I think it's time for her to go. Unfortunately she seems desperate to stay and I think she'll remain on the panel. As for new judges, David Walliams is being talked about again and I think he'll do it this time. Cheryl would get the media talking in a way that BGT hasn't really done for a couple of years. Like last year I think a new panel would be better than having just Amanda remain - but if Amanda staying is the price of keeping Cheryl away from it then it's a price worth paying. P.S. Ratings wise any figures please for the 5pm and 8pm slots on E4 in the post-Friends era? |
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When is Doctor Who Confidential showing on finale night? If it's straight after the finale that might take some viewers away from Merlin. Not everyone has a PVR.
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None of the replacements fill me with any promise, but it is a shame the Hoff, Michael and Amanda didn't get another year as until Simon returned and stepped on the Hoffs toes and got Michael's tongue surgically attached to his arse, they worked rather well.
Like last year I think a new panel would be better than having just Amanda remain - but if Amanda staying is the price of keeping Cheryl away from it then it's a price worth paying. P.S. Ratings wise any figures please for the 5pm and 8pm slots on E4 in the post-Friends era? |
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The bbfc have the DW finale running for 45 minutes 22 seconds. While it's possible they've made a mistake, it's unlikely: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/AVV283406/
![]() I have decided to catch up on the Doctor Whos I have missed, so I watched the Night Terrors one (I think that's what it was called) on iPlayer tonight, and it told me that one was around 42mins and 30 secs, so it seems we're getting about three extra minutes for the final episode.
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... but if Amanda staying is the price of keeping Cheryl away from it then it's a price worth paying.
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Amongst all the other discussion the news about Michael McIntyre quitting BGT seems to have gone under the radar a bit. I have to say I'm quite surprised, as I thought he would definitely return. It all sounds like a friendly parting of the ways but The Mirror suggests ITV kept him waiting around for dates and he couldn't wait any longer to work out when he needed to keep free. Sounds like Syco's usual last minute antics have cost them this time as McIntyre was an asset to the show.
With the Hoff gone it looks like they're down to Amanda again. I said it last year and I'll say it again, I think it's time for her to go. Unfortunately she seems desperate to stay and I think she'll remain on the panel. As for new judges, David Walliams is being talked about again and I think he'll do it this time. Cheryl would get the media talking in a way that BGT hasn't really done for a couple of years. They could switch to 2 females and one male, but I think they could do with an 'alpha male' character as well, and with Amanda unlikely to go they might want to bring a fourth judge in. I'd like Cowell to return full time but he probably won't. With it being a fairly small commitment maybe they could get Robbie Williams or someone like that to do it (Robbie might be a good shout as with Gary doing X Factor Take That are very much 'friends' of Cowell's shows. If not, maybe with 2 new judges it could be worth giving the Hoff another go. He wasn't bad at all last year and probably deserves another shot. There's always the chance of Cowell doing the whole thing this time - there was never any real reason why he couldn't do the auditions this year. Cheryl remains the best option for them but I'm not sure she'll do it. David Walliams is pretty popular just now. The Hoff hasn't been fired yet - and Cowell definitely likes him so he could be back. I'm not sure if McIntyre leaving is good for The Hoff or bad? They could use some tabloid fodder. Better talent and doing something different with the format as well would help. |
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If Amanda's due date is January then I don't see how she can do the auditions. Which would mean her returning for the live shows at best (assuming Cowell quits altogether) - then getting fired before the next series. It's not easy to drop a pregnant woman at the best of times, let alone when she's practically begging for her job in the press!
There's always the chance of Cowell doing the whole thing this time - there was never any real reason why he couldn't do the auditions this year. Cheryl remains the best option for them but I'm not sure she'll do it. David Walliams is pretty popular just now. The Hoff hasn't been fired yet - and Cowell definitely likes him so he could be back. I'm not sure if McIntyre leaving is good for The Hoff or bad? They could use some tabloid fodder. Better talent and doing something different with the format as well would help. Better talent is a must too. They need acts that'll get people talking, not just decent singers and dancers. That's why a properly executed YouTube round (not the half-hearted thing they did this year) could be good. As for judges I agree it could be difficult for Amanda, but she's coming across as being quite desperate for the gig so getting rid of her is almost impossible! Its a bit weird though as her making a grand return at the live shows isnt going to make an impact like Cowell's return did. They need tabloid fodder and a comedian for 2 of the other seats. I'm not sure about the Hoff either. McIntyre leaving could either encourage the producers to ditch him and go for another revamp or keep him for consistency. Of course, if McIntyre really is just leaving for his tour then I guess there's a (very) small chance of Cowell doing it again next year for one year only with McIntyre returning for 2013 once his tour is done. |
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I can see them bumping it back up to 4 judges this year, Cheryl & Simon being 2 of them along with Amanda and a new male. I didn't think last years worked so much, Hoff didn't have a clue and Michael came across as feeling above the show. They didn't really gel either.
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I guess that its a mistake on the part of BBC Press website, I wonder if that is the same case with SJA.
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There's always the chance of Cowell doing the whole thing this time - there was never any real reason why he couldn't do the auditions this year.
I suppose the other argument is that he (and ITV) wanted to test the water for the format without him ahead of The X Factor and the Talent auditions were the easiest and safest way to do that - if they rated badly he'd be back to rescue the live shows. I do wonder what would have happened with The X Factor if the Britain's Got Talent auditions had gone badly ratings wise. Quote:
Cheryl remains the best option for them but I'm not sure she'll do it. David Walliams is pretty popular just now. The Hoff hasn't been fired yet - and Cowell definitely likes him so he could be back. I'm not sure if McIntyre leaving is good for The Hoff or bad? They could use some tabloid fodder. Better talent and doing something different with the format as well would help.
To be honest I think they'd be better off doing a complete overhaul of the judging panel in they can't get McIntyre back. As many have pointed out though dropping Holden might not be the best PR move for them all things considered. Can they have another year where Holden is the only returning judge? Probably not. Which means either Simon returns fulltime or The Hoff does or both. Although if the live shows proved anything its that if Simon is going to be on the panel they need someone who can be a counterpoint to him and disagree with him and the live shows suggest The Hoff and Holden can't/won't provide that. Of course depressingly a Simon/Amanda/Cheryl panel would probably give the production team and ITV everything they want. After everything that happened with X Factor US the press would go into meltdown at the thought of Cowell and Cheryl on the same show again. And Holden will be able to do the whole new baby thing as part of the promotion for the show. |
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