Average will include HD and possibly +1 if the peak is 12.7m including HD and +1 (unless you're seriously trying to say it was stable for the entire show).

X Factor usually gets 1 million + on HD.

so really the actual rating could be near last years opener, then you need to add plus one. So it could be over 12 million.

But the tweet said (even though it was inaccurate) that it 10.95 million excluding HD, so why would they post the figure including +1 but not include HD

Look give it a rest folks. The original tweet was incorrect. Its now corrected

10.94m average and 12.66m peak for #XFactor including +1 and HD (12.1m peak excl +1)

8.68m average and 9.81m peak for #Strictly

very good to say both programmes clashed for 45 mins.

Fantastic for X Factor and Strictly.

Merlin: 5.5m
Harry Hill's TV Burp: 4.64m (19%)
* lowest rating for an Autumn episode since 2007

Yikes, not a good rating for TV Burp.

There was episodes to begin with last year that were around 5.4, so it is not too shocking, should keep climbing.

Is that with +1. If is is then its a shocking rating

While I'm on the page...
- Strictly beat X Factor in clash
- England game peaked with 6.2m (54%)
- Wales/Ireland thrashed the F1 but GP got good repeat rating
- 4.4m for TV Burp return
- Despite BB breaking 1m, ITV3 pipped C5 in primetime
- ITV1's all-day share was 24.3% (+1: 5%)
- David Croft tribute did really well for BBC2

just over 1m in the officials is the norm. So maybe 900k+ in the overnights?

Good peek for the Rugby. Awful for TV Burp. I think everybody knew Strictly would beat X Factor.

...and the Sunday repeat regularly picks up a few million and makes ITV1's top 30.

TXF did well last night and even with the overkill seems settled around 11 million. Yet ITV have to be careful not to kill the golden goose and I think once a week is sufficient. Everyone has predicted its demise, but if its ancestor, Opportunity Knocks is anything to go by, it could last 22 years.

What did BB get last night? What did BB BOTS get as well peeps?

5.5m is good for Merlin, especially if it timeshifts as well as Doctor Who! Should hit 7m then! glad to see it is up on last week too!

It seems the darker tone has not deterred viewers. How does this compare to last year?

I don't know much about Opportinity Knocks but was that more Britains got talent like then X Factor though?

Whilst the X Factor was on for the 1st half-an-hour, SCD had Jason Donovan (the favourite, highest score of the night), Nancy Dell'Olio (lowest score of the night), Harry Judd (2nd favourite), and Russell Grant (this year's Ann Widdecombe / John Sargeant? But Russell actually has hope!). Looks like viewers stayed with SCD til the end.

PS - I thought TV Burp was the funniest it's been for a while, so hopefully viewers will return to it.

I'm sure they did, whilst they were Sky plussing X-Factor, which they also watched in its entirety.

You obviously don't watch then as apart from at the beginning of the show The X Factor rarely has "still to come" - they just crash straight into the break.


So it's a perfect slot for ITV to try it then as at the moment there is virtually no advertising on Saturday nights before the break in TV Burp - so an ad free film in the slot fits the bill.


Awaiting the spin that it is a better result for Strictly than The X Factor.


Good to see the BBC aren't chasing ratings then!

Big Brother- 1.02m
Xtra Factor- 796,000

That's low for Xtra Factor.

Glad to see Big Brother finding it's feet on Channel 5. I can see ratings rising slightly if they start treating it better.

Decent rating for X Factor but still the lowest live show opener since 2008.