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Old 09-10-2011, 12:39
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I think we need some facts put back in this thread. I'm somewhat bewildered by those that are calling The X Factor's ratings good. If I'm to be quite honest, I think they're alright. Not bad, but nothing to be impressed about. Now, to compare:

2008 - 10.4m (41.0%) *peak: 11.3m (49%)
2009 - 11.3m (43.8%) *peak: 12.9m
2010 - 12.2m (48.5%) *peak: 13.8m
2011 - 10.4m (40.3%) / 10.9m *peak: 12.1m / 12.7m

Now, the clash period:

2008 - no clash
2009 - 75 minute clash
2010 - no clash
2011 - 35 minute clash

Even if it didn't clash, I think it would have been ~11.4m including +1, without seeing a breakdown it's hard to know who dented what.

However, do I think it will rate lower than 2009 and 2010 in the series' averages? Yes.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:40
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10m people were not watching at the same time. When Strictly and X Factor clashed last night Strictly beat it
by how much?
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:41
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Promo has begun for 5*'s Alphas with one spot before Big Brother and one spot during Big Brother. Of course, the show will eventually end up facing Big Brother. D'oh! Looks great though.
It is very good. I enjoyed the US run a lot.

You obviously don't watch then as apart from at the beginning of the show The X Factor rarely has "still to come" - they just crash straight into the break.
And you obviously can't read because I qualified that statement with 'during the early stages at least'.

Big Brother- 1.02m
Xtra Factor- 796,000

That's low for Xtra Factor.
It didn't start until 10PM and followed on from more than 2 hours of the main show. I think all things considered it did relatively well. However if it settles in that territory for the rest of the run then I imagine ITV will be disappointed.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:45
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While I'm on the page...
- Strictly beat X Factor in clash
- England game peaked with 6.2m (54%)
- Wales/Ireland thrashed the F1 but GP got good repeat rating
- 4.4m for TV Burp return
- Despite BB breaking 1m, ITV3 pipped C5 in primetime
- ITV1's all-day share was 24.3% (+1: 5%)
- David Croft tribute did really well for BBC2
PJ, would be interested to see the Wales/Ireland and F1 ratings if you could put them in your report
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:46
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I think we need some facts put back in this thread. I'm somewhat bewildered by those that are calling The X Factor's ratings good. If I'm to be quite honest, I think they're alright. Not bad, but nothing to be impressed about.
Its always very tricky to talk about The X Factor's ratings because the second you use the words 'poor' or 'disappointing' to describe a 10+ million average it feels wrong and people question it.

You're right though relative to previous years I can't imagine ITV being overjoyed with this figure.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:46
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Just Seen those BBC 2 Ratings. Wow great ratings for those 3 programs.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:46
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8The figures for X factor are obviously going to be lower than usual.
2 years ago there was a 75 minute clash and that X factor still rated 1m better than last nights.

No clash tonight, so it should easily top 11 million, if not higher.
Well considering the results shows usually get 14m, 11m shouldn't be a stretch.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:49
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2 years ago there was a 75 minute clash and that X factor still rated 1m better than last nights.



Well considering the results shows usually get 14m, 11m shouldn't be a stretch.
I think it should easily top 12m
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:51
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I think we need some facts put back in this thread. I'm somewhat bewildered by those that are calling The X Factor's ratings good. If I'm to be quite honest, I think they're alright. Not bad, but nothing to be impressed about. Now, to compare:

2008 - 10.4m (41.0%) *peak: 11.3m (49%)
2009 - 11.3m (43.8%) *peak: 12.9m
2010 - 12.2m (48.5%) *peak: 13.8m
2011 - 10.4m (40.3%) / 10.9m *peak: 12.1m / 12.7m

Now, the clash period:

2008 - no clash
2009 - 75 minute clash
2010 - no clash
2011 - 35 minute clash

Even if it didn't clash, I think it would have been ~11.4m including +1, without seeing a breakdown it's hard to know who dented what.

However, do I think it will rate lower than 2009 and 2010 in the series' averages? Yes.
I Understand what your talking about DMN But remmber those years X Facor aways had a public vote. Now last night was different maybe some viewers didn't want to watch becuase of that.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:51
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2 years ago there was a 75 minute clash and that X factor still rated 1m better than last nights.



Well considering the results shows usually get 14m, 11m shouldn't be a stretch.
Why are you rolling your eyes? Searching for a brain cell? They usually peak at that figure I thought.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:52
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I think it should easily top 12m
I didn't pay much attention or remember the results ratings, so I just guessed the 11 million. You are probably right.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:53
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Well considering the results shows usually get 14m, 11m shouldn't be a stretch.
It'll be interesting to see what kind of impact the no public vote twist has on the results show tonight.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:55
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I Understand what your talking about DMN But remmber those years X Facor aways had a public vote. Now last night was different maybe some viewers didn't want to watch becuase of that.
The amount of people that vote anyway is incredibly small, I doubt it made much difference with regards whether they would choose to watch or not.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:57
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The amount of people that vote anyway is incredibly small, I doubt it made much difference with regards whether they would choose to watch or not.
True. But i on the X Factor thread alot of people hate the twist and i've read some twitter comments who hate it to. So it's possible that it might have had some impact
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:58
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The amount of people that vote anyway is incredibly small, I doubt it made much difference with regards whether they would choose to watch or not.
Yeah but technically it was JH p2, this ttime they were picking there top 3.

also a lot of people I know said 2 and half hours is too long and said they would watch it from week 2 onwards
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:59
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Yeah but technically it was JH p2, this ttime they were picking there top 3.

also a lot of people I know said 2 and half hours is too long and said they would watch it from week 2 onwards
It was too long. I was getting very tired and borad towards the end
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Old 09-10-2011, 13:02
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Anyway forgetting about X Factor for a minute. I am stunned by those BBC 2 Ratings really to get 3 programs over 2m is amazing and it seems to have gone unnoticed
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Old 09-10-2011, 13:09
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I Understand what your talking about DMN But remmber those years X Facor aways had a public vote. Now last night was different maybe some viewers didn't want to watch becuase of that.
Hilarious. Maybe GeorgeS can get you a job in the ITV Department of Spin?

True. But i on the X Factor thread alot of people hate the twist and i've read some twitter comments who hate it to. So it's possible that it might have had some impact
Yeah, like those who are so obsessed by every minutiae of TXF that they fill 150 pages up on DS during each show are actually going to not tune in to their favourite show because "they hate the twist".....
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Old 09-10-2011, 13:11
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Its always very tricky to talk about The X Factor's ratings because the second you use the words 'poor' or 'disappointing' to describe a 10+ million average it feels wrong and people question it.

You're right though relative to previous years I can't imagine ITV being overjoyed with this figure.
I think that considering that Merlin is down on its overnight figures too compared to last year it might point to a continuing change in viewing habits. It'll be interesting to see the finally figures for episode one in a week or two because I would bet they are on par with last year. It really feels like fewer and fewer people feel the need to watch TV live now. Of course, for the BBC that isn't too much of a headache and 5.5m is a very respectable figure if it's getting nearer 7m overall (not even including the iPlayer). More troublesome for the commercial channels obviously.
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Old 09-10-2011, 13:11
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Ironic that with the talk all week of "the twist", TXF should then go on to lose out to a dance show when head to head!
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Old 09-10-2011, 13:14
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Ironic that with the talk all week of "the twist", TXF should then go on to lose out to a dance show when head to head!
Seen as the twist was officially revealed during the week and comes into play on sunday not saturday's show, no it is not ironic at all......
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Old 09-10-2011, 13:15
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Hilarious. Maybe GeorgeS can get you a job in the ITV Department of Spin?

Yeah, like those who are so obsessed by every minutiae of TXF that they fill 150 pages up on DS during each show are actually going to not tune in to their favourite show because "they hate the twist".....
Lol, there has got to be a Monty Python sketch somewhere here
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Old 09-10-2011, 13:18
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I think that considering that Merlin is down on its overnight figures too compared to last year it might point to a continuing change in viewing habits. It'll be interesting to see the finally figures for episode one in a week or two because I would bet they are on par with last year. It really feels like fewer and fewer people feel the need to watch TV live now. Of course, for the BBC that isn't too much of a headache and 5.5m is a very respectable figure if it's getting nearer 7m overall (not even including the iPlayer). More troublesome for the commercial channels obviously.
I hope last nights figures encourage the Beeb to be bold and not move SCD and Merlin earlier this year. If Merlin sticks at 8.15 and SCD airing at whatever time it needs to finish at 8.15, then I reckon both Beeb shows will benefit from later slots and more available viewers, whilst TXF will be dented by the clash, and TV Burp won't get it's usual post SCD/pre TXF bounce.

That really was a poor showing for Burp's return last night, although the content itself wasnt that bad.
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Old 09-10-2011, 13:20
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I don't see why people are agruing over TXF ratings, it did VERY well as there was a clash.

What is worrying is the Xtra Factor. I know the main show was long and people didn't want to watch another hour of it, but 796k out of 11m coming back is not too good, compared to the lets say, Mark's exit from Big Brother being watched by 1.4m, and 400k watching on 5* the same day. There was a bigger retention (to a much smaller channel than ITV2)
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Old 09-10-2011, 13:21
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Seen as the twist was officially revealed during the week and comes into play on sunday not saturday's show, no it is not ironic at all......
Didn't come into play last night? So viewers phoned in as normal then?

Someone best warn Ofcom....
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