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The John James Appreciation Thread (Part 10)
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augusta92
01-10-2011
Originally Posted by Johnathan100:
“I’m not sure the first interview was much in the way of self promotion, he hadn’t cheated – that was really the gist of it. It was unplanned with no photos.

The second pap picture thing was different. At the time there was a fair amount of speculation on twitter and on DS that he was making this girl up. I’m sure that would have been breathtakingly annoying for him, because if he had been pretending he had met someone it would be pretty pathetic. My guess is he wanted to quash that quick smart.

I’d say initially he’d planned to go back to England and pursue some kind of public thing but I think he’d underestimated the reaction to the breakup and probably hadn’t expected the amount of stuff said about him on twitter, & mags and whatnot so he may have thought scr*w this.

Re his lack of contact maybe he just doesn’t feel like he can go back to twitter, like when you put off ringing someone after a row and it just gets harder and harder to do it. If he had some dramatic news maybe he would then, who knows.

Or maybe his priorities are with what’s best for his sanity and personal relationships. if he is with Sherrie she’s had a lot of crap said about her that I’m sure she wasn’t delighted about.

Although we know little or nothing about her, or even if they’re together, on paper they seem like a good match. They’re both the only child in their family, both seem to think it’s reasonable to live on the other side of the world to be with someone, and both have the experience of living in a country with a different culture to their own (she seems to have integrated into his group of friends), both at some stage decided to make a career out of their interest, him sport, her dancing. So maybe he’s all about that right now.”


what a sensible post..... I think you could be right. the public interest in him and his personal life could have just been too much.

and if he was finding the negativity difficult to take, maybe he misinterpreted how disliked he actually was.

I know im a bit like that, when I was younger, I used to tie myself up in knots wondering why someone hasnt phoned me or invited me to something, and assumed the worst, thats its becasue they dont like me or something, yet usually there is a totally innocuous reason. and ive seen it happen so often with my daughters over the years.
I was always fine with close friends cos I could just ask them, but found it much harder to cope with people i didnt know that well.

My oldest is like me, or how I used to be, and always takes everything to heart and everything as a personal slight and insult. My youngest who is much more sociable, tends to laugh things off and just go and do something with another group of friends.

So if John assumed that everyone disliked him, maybe this is a reason for his absence?
For instance, I think if he had openly said he was a friend of Marks, on twitter etc, I think his support would have been a positive. But John seems to have been worried that it might have been seen as a negative. so maybe he doesnt realise how much support he does actual have in the UK?
augusta92
01-10-2011
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“Hi all, sorry to have neglected this lovely thread recently. The feisty minx Kandilashes et al have been on my mind . . . . and fighting group-think on the MF has been a fulltime job since BB12 started.

Unless I've missed something, there's been no John news of significance. And since I understand JJJAT are now behaving themselves for the most part and no longer digging at John, there's no longer a need for JJAT to provide the polemic balance which was previously lacking.

Now would I be wrong to believe that all of our posters who watch BB12 have a guy as their favourite HM? Or is anyone going against the DMN stereotype, lol???

I'll try to pop in a bit more often . . . not good at fluff though! ”


im not sure who my current BB favourite is?

cos I have to balance who I actually like, and who I think is a good housemate.
I did actually like Heaven and think its a shame that she has left. And I do quite like Faye.
Maisie is a bit self centred for me, a bit too self aware. adn I dont really like many or any of the boys...They all seem a bit shallow and a bit too easy to read.

Mark is the only one left who seems to have very much depth or a side that we dont really know that much about.
If Aaron was younger I would like him more.... but for a 30 year old he seems extremely immature. there was nothing wrong in some respects with him getting with Maisie or Faye, but ....if feels a bit too calculated to be real.?
Lindy_Loue
01-10-2011
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“what a sensible post..... I think you could be right. the public interest in him and his personal life could have just been too much.

and if he was finding the negativity difficult to take, maybe he misinterpreted how disliked he actually was.

I know im a bit like that, when I was younger, I used to tie myself up in knots wondering why someone hasnt phoned me or invited me to something, and assumed the worst, thats its becasue they dont like me or something, yet usually there is a totally innocuous reason. and ive seen it happen so often with my daughters over the years.
I was always fine with close friends cos I could just ask them, but found it much harder to cope with people i didnt know that well.

My oldest is like me, or how I used to be, and always takes everything to heart and everything as a personal slight and insult. My youngest who is much more sociable, tends to laugh things off and just go and do something with another group of friends.

So if John assumed that everyone disliked him, maybe this is a reason for his absence?
For instance, I think if he had openly said he was a friend of Marks, on twitter etc, I think his support would have been a positive. But John seems to have been worried that it might have been seen as a negative. so maybe he doesnt realise how much support he does actual have in the UK?”

Hmm - food for thought there - I have to say I had assumed he knew he had a loyal fanbase. However, given the way I believe he felt about Josie, it would be logical for him to think that their break-up would set larger numbers of people against him than is actually the case

I expect he will be following her career to some extent at least - wonder how he thinks she's doing?
Lindy_Loue
01-10-2011
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“im not sure who my current BB favourite is?

cos I have to balance who I actually like, and who I think is a good housemate.
I did actually like Heaven and think its a shame that she has left. And I do quite like Faye.
Maisie is a bit self centred for me, a bit too self aware. adn I dont really like many or any of the boys...They all seem a bit shallow and a bit too easy to read.

Mark is the only one left who seems to have very much depth or a side that we dont really know that much about.
If Aaron was younger I would like him more.... but for a 30 year old he seems extremely immature. there was nothing wrong in some respects with him getting with Maisie or Faye, but ....if feels a bit too calculated to be real.?”

I think this is why I just can't get into it........well, and to be honest, a large part of me is resisting it anyway as I don't want to get obsessed.......but every previous year, the show itself has overcome that feeling
Lindy_Loue
01-10-2011
Originally Posted by nyannie:
“Morning all

Nice to see you back Alex!
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Just switched off rugby - England are making far too many mistakes and it isn't good for my blood pressure.

Have to agree with you smree. I am just not into BB12 - would like to see Anton out , Tom irritates me and the girls are just too immature for me, but I don't even watch BB every night so I shouldn't really comment I guess. I think it would have been better to have some older people rather than this 18-30 group and of course BB didn't hold auditions all over the country so don't think the HMs are really that great.

Anyway, hope everyone has a good day and keeps cool.”

Can't believe that on a day like today I'm off to the theatre - booked it ages ago, obviously not thinking it would be 28 degrees on 1st Oct Hope they have air conditioning

Have a good day all.

Back later, Lindy x
ucra girl
01-10-2011
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“Hi all, sorry to have neglected this lovely thread recently. The feisty minx Kandilashes et al have been on my mind . . . . and fighting group-think on the MF has been a fulltime job since BB12 started.

Unless I've missed something, there's been no John news of significance. And since I understand JJJAT are now behaving themselves for the most part and no longer digging at John, there's no longer a need for JJAT to provide the polemic balance which was previously lacking.

Now would I be wrong to believe that all of our posters who watch BB12 have a guy as their favourite HM? Or is anyone going against the DMN stereotype, lol???

I'll try to pop in a bit more often . . . not good at fluff though!
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Good to see you


I am not very good at fluff either with no news really it is hard to keep up.BB12 is keeping me occupied while I still try to keep up here as well. I am still very much a DMN.I must say I tried very much to support a girl but I couldnt pull it off.The good thing for me though is Aaron fans include a combination of John James,Ziggy fans and lots of my old buddies from Jeremy in 2008 when I came to DS(I havent seen some for a while).Those are the ATs I have been on so I cant be off the mark with Aaron,he is my type.It almost feels like a club.If you remember when you brought the list I highlighted him and had a feeling his entrance VTwas not going to match the hm.That is what makes hms very popular,people seeing a different person from the VT.It made Jeremy's show,he was nominated and saved the same way as Aaron and he also flirted but it didnt affect him.I am not surprised that I am back on an AT with those people.

On the other hand,there was nothing in John James' VT to create opinion on him on entering the house.His argument with Racheal over mag deals is what set the tone,either a viewer looked beyond that argument or didnt.I am here because I can see beyond his argumentative side,those who cant couldnt even appreciate his honesty,caring and sensitive side.
ucra girl
01-10-2011
Originally Posted by Lindy_Loue:
“Can't believe that on a day like today I'm off to the theatre - booked it ages ago, obviously not thinking it would be 28 degrees on 1st Oct Hope they have air conditioning

Have a good day all.

Back later, Lindy x”

Have a nice day.28 degrees in October is disturbing tbh.
muggins14
01-10-2011
Afternoon all, hope you are all well Sad to see Heaven go last night, and didn't like BBOTS much either.

Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“Have a nice day.28 degrees in October is disturbing tbh.”

Yes it's extremely odd weather, think winter will hit all of a sudden with us all feeling it so much more. I hate hot weather (extremely hot) and along with hormones I am now spending my days with perspiration running down my face, such a good look
Deeferone
01-10-2011
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Afternoon all, hope you are all well Sad to see Heaven go last night, and didn't like BBOTS much either.



Yes it's extremely odd weather, think winter will hit all of a sudden with us all feeling it so much more. I hate hot weather (extremely hot) and along with hormones I am now spending my days with perspiration running down my face, such a good look ”

BIB - What a lovely picture you paint

I am hoping that Heaven is a girls name from BB otherwise were all doomed

I watched BBots on two occassions for a few minutes - it reminded me very much of a Jeremy Kyle experience - an experience I prefer to miss. Not watched BB this year - is there anyone with an interesting personality on the lines of John James?

Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“Have a nice day.28 degrees in October is disturbing tbh.”

Ucra I agree with you not happy with sudden weather changes - quite disturbing as you say
ucra girl
01-10-2011
Originally Posted by Deeferone:
“BIB - What a lovely picture you paint

I am hoping that Heaven is a girls name from BB otherwise were all doomed

I watched BBots on two occassions for a few minutes - it reminded me very much of a Jeremy Kyle experience - an experience I prefer to miss. Not watched BB this year - is there anyone with an interesting personality on the lines of John James?



Ucra I agree with you not happy with sudden weather changes - quite disturbing as you say”

Not really can anyone match John James but for me I have someone lying between John James,Jeremy and Ziggy with glimpses of each of them.Politeness and caring runs thru all of them.So those being my favs I cant complain watching Aaron.A cross section of fms I met on those hms' ATs are supporting Aaron so I am not completely off the mark.

I agree with muggins.I would have liked Heaven to stay a bit longer.
AlexBB3
01-10-2011
Originally Posted by Lindy_Loue:
“I haven't really got into BB much this year. The bookies favourite (Aaron ) is not my cup of tea, I have a gut feeling about him. If pushed I'd go for Harry. So sorry, yes, a guy, but not with any conviction.”

It's so hard to get into it when you feel you're being given such a small snapshot. For peeps like me who can't tolerate being manipulated by a production company, it becomes ever harder to sustain my interest in BB. If I wasn't on this forum, pretty sure I'd have dropped out by now. BB is my only guilty pleasure in the reality (sic!) TV genre, and it's hanging by a thread atm.

Originally Posted by augusta92:
“im not sure who my current BB favourite is?

cos I have to balance who I actually like, and who I think is a good housemate. ”

It's that old difficulty - finding an HM who's both nice and entertaining. Plenty are one or the other, few score well on both counts. I see Rebeckah and Aaron as examples of HMs who are the latter, but then again I do tend to prefer the clusterf*cks (like John).

Of those remaining, I like Maisy, Anton, Harry and Faye (but in Faye's case starting to see some parallels with Craig BB6 and even Josie, due to her manipulative insecurity). I'm seeing Mark and Alex as the most likely winners, though neither really do much for me so far.

Heaven has become something of an MF sacred cow because of appearing to be bullied, but imo the fact that she couldn't form a bond with even one of 13 other people tells me that she lacks the social skills to adapt to a different environment. She sees herself as an alpha, but when noone follows you, you have to take a step back and rethink. Yes she continued to be real/herself, that's her right and choice, but don't then complain when you find other people don't want to follow you. So I'm glad she went yesterday as, rather like Rebeckah, I don't think it would be a pleasant experience for anyone to remain in the house once their exclusion goes past a certain tipping point. And by way of comparison, Heaven's house isolation was nothing like the manipulated isolation of Keeva in BB11.

Overall they're not a bad lot of HMs imo. Shame that the viewing stats for yesterday's eviction were the lowest for an eviction show in the history of civilian BB.

Ucra - a supporter of Aaron, you do surprise me. Sandy will be shocked!!!
ellemay
01-10-2011
I don't get why Aaron has any supporters to be honest. I'm shocked he stayed on friday if Heaven had behaved like him i cant imagine what sort of reception she would have had.

I'm finding it hard to get used to any of them i usually watch more live feed so its a bit hard to get into it.
nyannie
02-10-2011
Morning all.
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Nice to see you back with us Alex. I haven't seen BB in days but managed to catch last night. I do like Harry and Mark and like ucra, have a soft spot for Aaron. He seems a bit immature for a 30 year old. Mark has a wise head on him. Like Alex, I miss the live feed and I get the impression it is semi-scripted.

Went to London yesterday to meet friends for lunch. Big mistake - it is about 3 degrees hotter than home. Luckily we took cabs and we noticed that our train company had taken off the signs that said 'This train is air-conditioned' - what a joke!

Glad to see England finally beat Scotland and that Tonga, yes Tonga, beat France. Talk about upsets.

Anyway, off to scout around the threads. Want to see what is being said about Nancy from Strictly!
Lindy_Loue
02-10-2011
Morning all

Reporting back on my theatre visit yesterday. It was a new theatre in Aylesbury, so fully air conditioned - bliss! Plus the show was absolutely brilliant - 'A Man with two Guv'nors' with Janes Corden, if ever you get the chance to see it. I think it has been on at the National Theatre and is now on its way back to London after touring. We laughed from start to finish

Back to chores today, got to go food shopping as missed it yesterday :yawn:

Have a good day all
Lena J
02-10-2011
Hi everyone, wonderful weather we're having. I gather it could break the record previously set for October 1985. Weird weather has always happened on and off over the years, just a pity it couldn't have been like this in August when people were having their holidays.

Still all quiet from Oz I see, apart from learning that John has beaten Scott soundly on the new Fifa game, lol. Fb remains activated for now.

Good to hear also that John is quite happy for Mozez to name some of their gear after him. Hopefully John will realise that there are really positive vibes for him still over here in the UK.
Lindy_Loue
02-10-2011
Originally Posted by Lena J:
“Hi everyone, wonderful weather we're having. I gather it could break the record previously set for October 1985. Weird weather has always happened on and off over the years, just a pity it couldn't have been like this in August when people were having their holidays.

Still all quiet from Oz I see, apart from learning that John has beaten Scott soundly on the new Fifa game, lol. Fb remains activated for now.

Good to hear also that John is quite happy for Mozez to name some of their gear after him. Hopefully John will realise that there are really positive vibes for him still over here in the UK.”

Hi Lena

Good to see you back, hope you're well, Lindy x
Lindy_Loue
02-10-2011
Originally Posted by ellemay:
“I don't get why Aaron has any supporters to be honest. I'm shocked he stayed on friday if Heaven had behaved like him i cant imagine what sort of reception she would have had.

I'm finding it hard to get used to any of them i usually watch more live feed so its a bit hard to get into it.”

Does anyone else notice a superficial physical resemblance to John? This has been mentioned in the MF and I guess this may be one reason why he's popular. His personality could not be more different though, John is more complex, kind, loyal and sensitive, so far as I can see I would also say that John is much more attractive
gussiecat
02-10-2011
Originally Posted by Lindy_Loue:
“Does anyone else notice a superficial physical resemblance to John? This has been mentioned in the MF and I guess this may be one reason why he's popular. His personality could not be more different though, John is more complex, kind, loyal and sensitive, so far as I can see I would also say that John is much more attractive ”

very superficial. Perhaps the stubble? but I agree Johns personality was much more attractive and complex. And dont even get me started on the comparison between John crying and Aden crying. One like most of us looks hideous, the other still manged to look lush. Superficial of me i know but true.
ucra girl
02-10-2011
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“It's so hard to get into it when you feel you're being given such a small snapshot. For peeps like me who can't tolerate being manipulated by a production company, it becomes ever harder to sustain my interest in BB. If I wasn't on this forum, pretty sure I'd have dropped out by now. BB is my only guilty pleasure in the reality (sic!) TV genre, and it's hanging by a thread atm.



It's that old difficulty - finding an HM who's both nice and entertaining. Plenty are one or the other, few score well on both counts. I see Rebeckah and Aaron as examples of HMs who are the latter, but then again I do tend to prefer the clusterf*cks (like John).

Of those remaining, I like Maisy, Anton, Harry and Faye (but in Faye's case starting to see some parallels with Craig BB6 and even Josie, due to her manipulative insecurity). I'm seeing Mark and Alex as the most likely winners, though neither really do much for me so far.

Heaven has become something of an MF sacred cow because of appearing to be bullied, but imo the fact that she couldn't form a bond with even one of 13 other people tells me that she lacks the social skills to adapt to a different environment. She sees herself as an alpha, but when noone follows you, you have to take a step back and rethink. Yes she continued to be real/herself, that's her right and choice, but don't then complain when you find other people don't want to follow you. So I'm glad she went yesterday as, rather like Rebeckah, I don't think it would be a pleasant experience for anyone to remain in the house once their exclusion goes past a certain tipping point. And by way of comparison, Heaven's house isolation was nothing like the manipulated isolation of Keeva in BB11.

Overall they're not a bad lot of HMs imo. Shame that the viewing stats for yesterday's eviction were the lowest for an eviction show in the history of civilian BB.

Ucra - a supporter of Aaron, you do surprise me. Sandy will be shocked!!! ”





LOL LOL Alex since when did I care about surprising people,it wouldnt be me if I cared about things like that.My old buddies from Jeremy's ATs are Aaron fans,so he must fall into some of the traits that made Jeremy my no1 housemate.Tell you what Jeremy did flirt alot, but like Aaron he was chased by the girls.They are not exactly the same but share attributes and turned round a bad VT.

There are other John James fans who support Aaron

I have never been on the same side as Sandy and as far as I know she didnt watch hijack so we never have had the same tastes of hms,it wouldnt even make sense for her to be shocked but good luck to her if she is.
ucra girl
02-10-2011
Originally Posted by ellemay:
“I don't get why Aaron has any supporters to be honest. I'm shocked he stayed on friday if Heaven had behaved like him i cant imagine what sort of reception she would have had.

I'm finding it hard to get used to any of them i usually watch more live feed so its a bit hard to get into it.”

I dont think that is a fair thing to say.The judgement of his behaviour is your personal opinion,the majority of voters didnt agree with it. I am sure there are people who ask why John James has fans.What attracted me to John maybe different from what attracted anyone else on this thread.

Originally Posted by Lindy_Loue:
“Does anyone else notice a superficial physical resemblance to John? This has been mentioned in the MF and I guess this may be one reason why he's popular. His personality could not be more different though, John is more complex, kind, loyal and sensitive, so far as I can see I would also say that John is much more attractive ”

Well the fact that some John James supporters are Aaron fans it cant be completely untrue.Aaron is popular because of who he is,for me there are glimpses of the people I tend to support in him.I dont think the reasons I suppported John are exactly the same for Aaron.
Lena J
02-10-2011
Originally Posted by Lindy_Loue:
“Hi Lena

Good to see you back, hope you're well, Lindy x ”

I'm good thanks Lindy. Wish the same could be said for my fan oven which imploded last night setting the smoke alarms off and filling the house with acrid smoke, not to mention incinerating my jacket potatoes.

Had Dad for Sunday lunch today as well. Had to cook the whole thing in the small conventional top oven with one shelf!! Had the bloomin' thing on 220c for an hour and still couldn't get the potatoes to crisp up or go brown. I am seriously pee'd right off. The only saving grace is that it's done it just before my new white units are due to go in. Anyone want a slightly charred French pine oven housing unit?
ucra girl
02-10-2011
Originally Posted by Lena J:
“Hi everyone, wonderful weather we're having. I gather it could break the record previously set for October 1985. Weird weather has always happened on and off over the years, just a pity it couldn't have been like this in August when people were having their holidays.

Still all quiet from Oz I see, apart from learning that John has beaten Scott soundly on the new Fifa game, lol. Fb remains activated for now.

Good to hear also that John is quite happy for Mozez to name some of their gear after him. Hopefully John will realise that there are really positive vibes for him still over here in the UK.”




I am beining to think that John doesnt know what to do with the UK support.I do think he realises it .
Lena J
02-10-2011
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
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I am beining to think that John doesnt know what to do with the UK support.I do think he realises it .”

Hi ucra, I wonder if he was hoping it would die away with the arrival of a new series of BB. But then it was him that brought up Mark being in the new house.

By the way I love Mark, he is sooo random. I can quite see why John liked him and got on with him. My fav's in the house are Aaron, Mark, Harry and Alex. Aaron and Mark seem to have a real bond, reminds me of John and JJ last year.
bblover
02-10-2011
Originally Posted by gussiecat:
“very superficial. Perhaps the stubble? but I agree Johns personality was much more attractive and complex. And dont even get me started on the comparison between John crying and Aden crying. One like most of us looks hideous, the other still manged to look lush. Superficial of me i know but true.”

Poor Aden,it is endearing seeing a mad cry thoughCan't help but laugh at Aden when he's crying,his face becomes funny like

Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“I am beining to think that John doesnt know what to do with the UK support.I do think he realises it .”

I think he doesn't know how to engage,if you look at his twitter history,he either was at it with haters,or tweeting something completely random,and very very few times he used Twitter to promote something.He never tweeted about his doings/plans or even shared a pics etc....now he's back to his old life,and obviously has no intention to banter with haters,no reason for him to still talk about the same old same,BB ended a year ago.Imo he's Twitter account is there,out of politeness to those that voted for him,supported him,but also out of curiosity,to see how things are going etc...
ellemay
02-10-2011
[quote=ucra girl;53225756]I dont think that is a fair thing to say.The judgement of his behaviour is your personal opinion,the majority of voters didnt agree with it. I am sure there are people who ask why John James has fans.What attracted me to John maybe different from what attracted anyone else on this thread.

John was also judged on his behaviour if someone goes in BB they will get judged. But John didnt jump into bed with everyone only Josie.
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