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So the Millers had a BBQ...
...and Arthur's Bench was on the menu. Although I thought the writing on Friday was poor (I mean I thought it was a smidge stronger in the previous three Miller episodes, and it seemed a bit messy and hectic on Friday), I thought there were a couple of scenes which did the Miller girls (Rosie & Demi) some favours.
The scene where Rosie was trying to get a minute to straighten her hair was a very subtle and honourable scene for 'EE04', which has had all the subtlety of a sledghammer on concrete for most of the time. She was [on here] the most criticised on Monday (in the 'Miller Time' thread) for being the least dimensional, but I think this scene was really good for her: we saw an internal character moment, with no dialogue, which we almost never see in EastEnders. The other scene was Demi-Bump sitting on the stairs making her telephone call. I never thought the Miller kids were 'brats', just a bit pikey, but I think this scene was effective. I mean the two of them have already out-acted everything Pete & Lucy Beale managed in ten years. I think the Millers are a good family. After the Slaters first week, I loathed them and wanted them out (they were a replacement for both the DiMarco's & Ethel, both of whom I liked, and they were super-unlikeable). I don't feel that strongly about the generally unappealing Millers. I only hope Rosie & Pauline don't become the best of mates, as was hinted in the Launderette scene. I hope this Bench situation makes them the worst of enemies. Cos that is FAR more interesting!! |
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I like the Millers but they are not much like the dingles Tina Baker kept saying they were
I think they will be really good for the show |
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Well she Tina Baker did say they have a hint of the Battersbys when they first arrived on Corrie. Uhmm hello but there is more than one low life family that lives on every estate in Britain and Ireland. Thats like saying the low life next door are a copy of the low life family across the road lol
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I loved the bit when Daddy Miller spoke to Dennis in the Club and Deniis never spoke or moved.
I can see the Millers having to pinch a bench from the nearest park to put in the square. Why did thick Adi allow them to open an account to go to the Job Centre etc. Does he really think they will pay |
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Originally Posted by pistonbroke
Why did thick Adi allow them to open an account to go to the Job Centre etc. Does he really think they will pay
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i gave up watching it completeley now, load of bleedin crap
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EE plots are unrealistic sometimes but if they were true to real life, would we bother to watch
My life is boring enough without watching someone else's boring life on the telly |
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But Katy, in order to be interesting it doesn't have to be unrealistic. It could remain credible and still be exciting and imaginative - but unfortunately EE often avoids doing that
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I did enjoy the epidode on Friday and felt for the mum when she couldn't curl her hair (God I would have SMACKED that kid for yelling like that). The Kareena and Micky thing was a bit...wtf?!? I knew they liked each other, but that did come from out of the blue (although I might have missed something before she went away).
Demi is a great little character and could see the effect of moving has hit her (as it did when I was her age). Also I would love Pauline and mummy miller to become friends....making them enemies will be cliche and already done (Fowlers vs Mitchells). They could be a new power force ![]() One thing that I couldn't get over....how in hell did they get the bench from the square?!? To place a bench in a public place does it not have to be set in the ground, you simply cannot just pick it up willy nilly and place it where feels needed?!? Woild it not have been cemented to the ground?!? |
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can't say i like the family at the moment and didn't realise the boy and girl are meant to be twins..
Points of note is when did Sasha learn how to cut an oil drum in half? What did no one complain that it ws unhygenic ? Why didn't the police put a stop to a street BBQ ? The bench only got burnt near the end but the plaque in the middle got ruined ? Why did the Millers move to Walford.. They have no jobs at the moment so how did the afford the move even if they are in a council house.. what did they do for work before ? Where was Mickey sleeping as well ? As someone else has noted if you are going to pick up your dole money would you really let someone have an account. One final think is that Addy was on an "airport run". Who was stupid enough to book this at the last minute ? What airport ? and would anyone realy book a taxi from the East End to go to either Heathrow or Gatwick, it will take hours and cost a fortune. |
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Stanstead?
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stanstead would be even more expensive - its in essex for god sakes.
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stanstead would be even more expensive - its in essex for god sakes.
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Well, I think anything to do with the Fereirra family, including "Shasha The Man", are almost routinely crap. She's especially bad, her line delivery is always the same and always rubbish. I mean, they've spoken out about how the family haven't worked out, but they're scrabbling around to try and give them a point (such as the suddenly 'sexy' wild-child Kareena, Adi the lothario, Ronny the wide-eyed child playing on his gameboy, and Sasha, the ex-pole dancer slash drilling expert). Whatever they do with them, they're so stigmatised by how the Berridge Brigade ruined them, they're not going to improve in the eyes of the viewers. I'm sure with better material, they're all very good actors, but they aren't going to do any favours for EE, because the viewers just doesn't, and won't, care.
As for Mickey & Kareena, well. Before, when she was a frump, I didn't care, but now... well, if she wants such a special first time, why did they sneek off upstairs for a bunk-up on Mickey's West-Ham bed spread, at a family BBQ? Not exactly candles and lace, is it. |
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Originally Posted by TheWalfordOne
I'm sure with better material, they're all very good actors, but they aren't going to do any favours for EE, because the viewers just doesn't, and won't, care.
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Originally Posted by TheWalfordOne
As for Mickey & Kareena, well. Before, when she was a frump, I didn't care, but now... well, if she wants such a special first time, why did they sneek off upstairs for a bunk-up on Mickey's West-Ham bed spread, at a family BBQ? Not exactly candles and lace, is it.
Maybe the writters had had too many cans ok Skoe when they wrote that bit
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Oh, well I was being polite about the acting ability: Kareena & Adi couldn't act if their way out of a paper-bag if they had just been told their father was being deported. Ronny & Ash, well, take them or leave them (preferably leave them -- inoffensive, but lacking in any sort of character what-so-ever). Tariq is the only one with any smidge of potential -- he was actually good as a shifty, shady little character who hung around the family. Since he became part of the mess, he's been indoctrinated by their sludgy nonentity crap.
And as for the Bunk-Up-Romance of the century: I thought it was as clumsy as EE can be right now. Having Mickey spit the mouthwash on him was, well, silly but ok. Having him plan to change into a pain of grubby-but-conveniently-left-on-the-rail jeans (why? he's only going to take them off again in two minutes) was silly. Having him trip over and fall into the bath, was predictable. And having Kareena get into a huff and walk out was turgid. When they play the 'almost-a-couple-but-not-quite' card with Kat & Alfie or Ian & Jane, it's ok, because they're liked characters. Mickey & Kareena? do me a favour. |
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i think the Millers are just like the slaters but i still like them. i think that Eastenders might start to get interesting again
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Originally Posted by Lippincote
Stanstead?
Back to Topic The Millers are a sort of happy medium for me and could easily survive if they don't get too serious like the Slaters who have just falllen apart, to the point that there is only Zoe and Charlie now. |
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Back to Topic
The Millers are a sort of happy medium for me and could easily survive if they don't get too serious like the Slaters who have just falllen apart, to the point that there is only Zoe and Charlie now. Where did the other brother go as well ? |
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i think the Millers are just like the slaters but i still like them. i think that Eastenders might start to get interesting again
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this is just the start....
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Originally Posted by TheWalfordOne
Well, I think anything to do with the Fereirra family, including "Shasha The Man", are almost routinely crap. She's especially bad, her line delivery is always the same and always rubbish. I mean, they've spoken out about how the family haven't worked out, but they're scrabbling around to try and give them a point (such as the suddenly 'sexy' wild-child Kareena, Adi the lothario, Ronny the wide-eyed child playing on his gameboy, and Sasha, the ex-pole dancer slash drilling expert). Whatever they do with them, they're so stigmatised by how the Berridge Brigade ruined them, they're not going to improve in the eyes of the viewers. I'm sure with better material, they're all very good actors, but they aren't going to do any favours for EE, because the viewers just doesn't, and won't, care.
As for Mickey & Kareena, well. Before, when she was a frump, I didn't care, but now... well, if she wants such a special first time, why did they sneek off upstairs for a bunk-up on Mickey's West-Ham bed spread, at a family BBQ? Not exactly candles and lace, is it. It was touted that Kareena would come back with a "incredibly sexy new image, that will wow the lads in the square" , unfortunately the only difference between her last appearance in the show and this one is that she's had her hair cut into a bob and wears more make up than Lily Savage. Why the hell have they paired up Sasha - the 12ft 6in afghan hound with lipgloss, with Addi, the 4ft tub of lard with a biro'd on moustache? They look ludicrous. How is it that most EE terraced houses take on TARDIS like proportions and develop room/bedrooms for immensely large families, when the Fowlers house is supposed to be the same size and yet everyone seems to be living armpit to armpit. And as for Kareena's "big night" with Mickey - is she deaf? Did she not hear the huge bang as he knocked himself "comically" unconscious in the bedroom? Was it the only party in the history of the world where no-one used the loo and found him within five minutes? And why on earth - out of the blue - pick that particular evening, that particular bloke and a bedroom with no lock, guaranteeing no privacy whatsoever? Sometimes (no actually, ALL the time), I think the EE scriptys think we are stupid. |
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Sorry they are nothing like the Slaters. The only Slater anything like a criminal is Big Mo.
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How is it that most EE terraced houses take on TARDIS like proportions and develop room/bedrooms for immensely large families, when the Fowlers house is supposed to be the same size and yet everyone seems to be living armpit to armpit. |
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Charlie in his zip up cardigan in a coffin - good one !!!!!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL.
Its the same with the Queen Vic though ... that seems to have an upstairs bit the size of Buckingham Palace, whenever guests come to stay. At one point we had Kat and Alfie, Nana Moon, Spencer, Zoe and Phil Mitchell staying there (presumably the last three didnt all bunk up together) - PLUS theres a big kitchen PLUS an enormous living room and (as you say Sherer - a bathroom) and yet the Queen Vic bar downstairs isnt that big ! |
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