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Old 20-09-2011, 15:37
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Old 20-09-2011, 15:39
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New thread?

It'd be better keeping it all in one thread for looking back on figures!
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Old 20-09-2011, 15:41
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in reply to crisis3

There are 2 issues for CH5 to sort. How do they get better bookend show to complement BB better and secondly what happens when BB12 ends. Does everyone of their new precious audience go off to whatever else they watch with theold audience they have alienated simply staying away? There is a real risk that come November CH5 could see its market share fall like a stone just in time for the lucrative Xmas advertising period with a very real financial collapse of revenue. If there are any "crisis" meetings it not about BB now whats done is done its about what happens after BB can we restore some credibility with our traditional audience for old tired US reject shows.

there are plenty of lessons to be learnt for next year ,the ball is firmly in channel 5's court

as for bb12, i'm really not sure what can be done to salvage this show
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Old 20-09-2011, 16:03
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New thread?

It'd be better keeping it all in one thread for looking back on figures!
We dont get a choice mate. The same as any thread about livefeed gets chucked into the LF axed thread.

Stupid really, cos we can see multiple rebekah or aaron threads on the main forum, but they dont all get lumped together
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Old 20-09-2011, 16:23
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I'm not aware of any crisis meetings about the ratings.
I'm not saying that they're not going on, but I'm not aware of any based on any solid information I can rely upon.

The problem here is if there are no such meetings Channel 5 are just going to laugh in the faces of the live-feed campaigners, some of which are probably trying to do things properly but are let down by others who are making rash comments on internet forums.

With something like this I think it's so important to articulate your stance effectively. If a campaign is conducted by means of just lashing out and using tittle tattle as a substitute for rational argument, then I don't think it's going to have much hope against the means Channel 5 will have at their disposal. Their PR team will just manage the situation quite comfortably (As long as Jeff Ford doesn't say anything).
I think that's an important point, and unfortunately some elements of the LF campaign have gone overboard in ways that would make it easy for C5 to dismiss it as a small number of people trying to make a big noise.

I mean things like using 'sock puppet' accounts to make it seem more were protesting on Facebook than was actually the case, and having a web site that offered to send each complaint that was entered 1000 times.

That web site reported a total of messages sent which was then cited as if it were the number of different people complaining.

Such things are a gift to anyone at C5 or Endemol who wants to argue against having a live feed.
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Old 20-09-2011, 16:24
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Originally Posted by crisis3, I think

There are 2 issues for CH5 to sort. How do they get better bookend show to complement BB better and secondly what happens when BB12 ends. Does everyone of their new precious audience go off to whatever else they watch with theold audience they have alienated simply staying away? There is a real risk that come November CH5 could see its market share fall like a stone just in time for the lucrative Xmas advertising period with a very real financial collapse of revenue. If there are any "crisis" meetings it not about BB now whats done is done its about what happens after BB can we restore some credibility with our traditional audience for old tired US reject shows.
I think that BB makes sense on C5 only as part of a longer-term strategy to reposition the channel.

BB is currently too different from C5's other shows, and there is a danger that people who'd been enjoying C5's other shows will stay away at least for a while after BB12 ends -- "just in time for the lucrative Xmas advertising period".

Also, BB's audience has such a different demographic mix from C5's other shows that the shows that lead in to BB help BB less than their audience size makes it seem.

But if C5 has a longer-term strategy that's built around BB, poor performance this year may not matter that much to them. They may see it as something to build on rather than as a disaster.
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Old 20-09-2011, 16:30
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My biggest concern is C5's shocking disregard for the fans of BB. It's like walking into your favourite shop to find it's now owned by Vicky Pollard.
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Old 20-09-2011, 17:29
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My biggest concern is C5's shocking disregard for the fans of BB. It's like walking into your favourite shop to find it's now owned by Vicky Pollard.
PMSL!!
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Old 20-09-2011, 18:30
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But if C5 has a longer-term strategy that's built around BB, poor performance this year may not matter that much to them. They may see it as something to build on rather than as a disaster.

I don't think Ch.5 have any stratagy at all.....unless it's to try and sell 3 or 4 more copies of the Daily Star
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Old 20-09-2011, 20:41
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I don't think Ch.5 have any stratagy at all.....unless it's to try and sell 3 or 4 more copies of the Daily Star
Two relatively simple additions would help I reckon - Live Speed Noms and a Live Task - hosted by Brian.

(Think I've said this before ) but I always thought the set up on C4 was lazy. A live eviction then nothing live or 'event-like' for another week. It used to work but now BB is something that needs a firework up its arse to keep going.

If they did this:
Monday - Live Speed Noms
Tuesday - Pre-recorded highlights
Wednesday - Live Task
Thursday - Pre-recorded HLs
Friday - SINGLE Live Eviction Show
Sat/Sun - Pre-recorded highlights

It breaks up the long run of missable highlights shows. I thought C5 would be throwing everything necessary at BB to make it really successful but they're just not. I can understand why C4 weren't particularly bothered from BB10 onwards but C5..??
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Old 20-09-2011, 20:42
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New thread?

It'd be better keeping it all in one thread for looking back on figures!
DS' servers can't cope with threads that get too big.
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Old 20-09-2011, 20:51
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Two relatively simple additions would help I reckon - Live Speed Noms and a Live Task - hosted by Brian.

(Think I've said this before ) but I always thought the set up on C4 was lazy. A live eviction then nothing live or 'event-like' for another week. It used to work but now BB is something that needs a firework up its arse to keep going.

If they did this:
Monday - Live Speed Noms
Tuesday - Pre-recorded highlights
Wednesday - Live Task
Thursday - Pre-recorded HLs
Friday - SINGLE Live Eviction Show
Sat/Sun - Pre-recorded highlights

It breaks up the long run of missable highlights shows. I thought C5 would be throwing everything necessary at BB to make it really successful but they're just not. I can understand why C4 weren't particularly bothered from BB10 onwards but C5..??
I know - this is what I'm finding absolutely baffling. C5 are carrying on like this is a show they've been airing for years which they're tired of. They've made so little effort and seem intent of alienating every possible section of the audience.
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Old 20-09-2011, 21:32
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I know - this is what I'm finding absolutely baffling. C5 are carrying on like this is a show they've been airing for years which they're tired of. They've made so little effort and seem intent of alienating every possible section of the audience.
Very odd indeed. I reckon they just thought it would look after itself and took the 'core fanbase' for granted. I still think it's doing OK* on Channel 5, I expected an average of less than 2m but there's things they could be doing to help it along.

*Pun was absolutely intended.
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Old 20-09-2011, 22:57
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First ten minutes of today's show was a discussion about what was said about a biscuit. Good luck tomorrow, Channel 5.
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Old 20-09-2011, 22:58
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First ten minutes of today's show was a discussion about what was said about a biscuit. Good luck tomorrow, Channel 5.
It was related to a big argument though?

You could say that "cidergate" for example, was just a discussion about cans of cider.
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Old 21-09-2011, 00:10
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Tonight on BBBOTS, Emma asked if the name of their spoof music video they'd just shown was trending on Twitter....

Needless to say it wasn't.
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Old 21-09-2011, 00:20
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Desmond spin in the Star
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/bigbrothe...-fans-tune-in/

An "impressive" 1.4m ?
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Old 21-09-2011, 00:24
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If Rebeckha goes it will be an impressive 0 .5 million this time next week.
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Old 21-09-2011, 00:30
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Old 21-09-2011, 00:33
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Apparently, Rebeckah was trending tonight, though, so perhaps the ratings will be up slightly?
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Old 21-09-2011, 00:36
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IIRC, according to The Daily Star, it was at 18m at one point...so that's a loss of 16.6m viewers?

Crisis? What crisis?
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Old 21-09-2011, 00:37
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My biggest concern is C5's shocking disregard for the fans of BB. It's like walking into your favourite shop to find it's now owned by Vicky Pollard.
Disregard for the fans? They saved BB from extinction by C4. Would you rather it remained cancelled
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Old 21-09-2011, 03:05
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Two relatively simple additions would help I reckon - Live Speed Noms and a Live Task - hosted by Brian.

(Think I've said this before ) but I always thought the set up on C4 was lazy. A live eviction then nothing live or 'event-like' for another week. It used to work but now BB is something that needs a firework up its arse to keep going.

If they did this:
Monday - Live Speed Noms
Tuesday - Pre-recorded highlights
Wednesday - Live Task
Thursday - Pre-recorded HLs
Friday - SINGLE Live Eviction Show
Sat/Sun - Pre-recorded highlights

It breaks up the long run of missable highlights shows. I thought C5 would be throwing everything necessary at BB to make it really successful but they're just not. I can understand why C4 weren't particularly bothered from BB10 onwards but C5..??
Live nominations is the one thing the latter years of BBAU, despite some of their other problems, continued to get right. Live nominations shows were great. It's something the audience actually seemed to care about, even if they didn't bother watching the highlights for the rest of the week. All of the live shows did better than highlights.
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Old 21-09-2011, 03:07
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Disregard for the fans? They saved BB from extinction by C4. Would you rather it remained cancelled
When I see that argument continued to be used as the justification for their poorly edited show with poorly companioned social media, the answer is yes.
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Old 21-09-2011, 03:50
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If Rebeckha goes it will be an impressive 0 .5 million this time next week.
If so, here's how it will have worked: Rebeckah caused lots of viewers who would have liked the show without her to go away and to give up on bb12. Then Rebeckah's evicted, and the people who can only stand to watch when the most objectionable 'big character' is never evicted go away too.
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