The other night it almost seemed like BOTS had to use one of its own presenters as a 'guest' panelist.

Alice Levine? They've done that since the start. So?...

Wednesday's was far from the best episode, which is why I expected the numbers to be low the next night. And I was right. It was not a show that would pull in viewers. It just wasn't.

Come on! The supposedly most wonderful thing about it was a sour-faced girl getting repeated spray tans. Even if someone was ROTFL over that, it was obviously a one-off, not a reason to text your friends to say "you gotta watch this! They might spay-paint a cat next!"

I don't know why people think one good show leads to good ratings the next night.

One very controversial show might, but not a somewhat funny episode.

Consistently very poor. Let's not kid ourselves - BB should be drawing 2.5m comfortably.

Its not the numbers Im interested in, its the % of audience I tend to take notice of

Both matter, imo, but what was last night's share to go with its miserable 1.3 million?

Why does Digital spy still not have a ratings article for last night?

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s57/g...with-640k.html

A truly good episode would have viewers in ways that got others watching.

If only a very controversial show can have any effect, BB is doomed. Unless the producers engineer a blow-up. Is that what people want?

Thanks!

I see how they hide it now.

And BB was 1.31m (7.6%).

Business as usual for bb12, and down from the 1.4m that was thought to be the steady audience.

As it's Friday has anybody worked out this week's average from last Friday up to and including last night?

The overnight average since last Friday has been 1.34m (7.5%).

Goes without saying, that's the lowest rated week in normal BB history.

I reckon around 1.7m and 1.4m tonight (as if Rebecka is going. I'm sure more people will tune in to the interview than Tashie.

I cant see anyway Channel 5 will be happy at the moment.
the massive Question for them and us for 2012 are they going to rethink all the changes (coverage,format spin off shows,Maybe even the presenter).

Maybe it also wasnt a good idea having two shows so close,having a longer run CBB would IMHO been the better idea then starting afresh in 2012.

Well I must admit there hasn't been much so far but I'm hoping there might be a bit once Bootcamp starts

the major block for Bigbrother will be when liveshow starts and if theres a shock Exit.We know Extra Factor tends to be watched by a lot more when this happens.

IMO BB13 will have a healthy ratings increase with Live Feed, promotion and of course running during the summer as usual.

I'm sure X Factor would struggle to top 7m with no promotion, and being on, in let's say March.

Though Rebeckah v Heaven is a more eagerly anticipated eviction than Tashie v Harry v (an always safe) Aaron. I think Big Brother may hold up; and the second interview may do better than last week.

It's been quite a dull / irritating show apart from the eviction, so I wonder how many people will return for the interview now that they know the result. And indeed how many kept watching all the way to the result.

for a live eviction im surprised that BB is not trending in any form on twitter but Old Grey whistle Test is

shocking.
It did for about 10 mins last friday but nothing at all this week.

C5 can face one thing the social media aspect isnt working.someone tweeted the old C4 BB account it still has more followers than Channel5..
they need to get people talking about the show and that isnt occuring via Twitter.And the Censoring of Facebook is stopping the debate there.

Thanks rzt.

They had to "censor" Facebook, though, because the live feed spamming was ruining it for everyone else and making debate about anything else impossible.

BB topics could trend on Twitter even without help from BB if people were interested enough. But they aren't.

BTW, as I understand it, trending requires a substantial increase in mentions over a relatively short period. Being talked about (even a lot) at a steady level doesn't do it.

...

I see Patti Smith is trending, because something of hers was on the Old Grey Whistle Test reshowing.

Very telling that bb12 lacks that power.

I've thought of something else that might help explain why BB USA has, unlike our BB, continued to be successful.

(Beyond what mentioned last night.)

The pace of our UK BB is too slow.

Between nominations and the eviction, days go by without anything that would especially draw viewers or reinvigorate viewers' interest if they're getting bored.

BB USA has Head of House and Power of Veto tasks that affect who might be evicted (and they tend to be better tasks than ours anyway.)

Our BB's shopping tasks are often missable, and (especially in recent years) they often have little effect on food -- and if they do but the HMs on 'basic rations' that just means the HMs spend more time in tedious arguments or moaning and complaining.

When BB UK adds something like bb11's 'Save and Replace', viewers become frustrated and suspicious when it starts producing unpopular results.

BB USA makes sense as a coherent whole that includes no public vote. It doesn't work to add elements of BB USA into BB UK. So what can BB UK do to pick up the pace?

Old Grey Whistle Test
Talking Heads
and
Rebeckah's

now all trending.