and dont forget all English.
Lets be honest it would affect the ratings if they decided to have all Irish,Welsh Scottish.

you need that cultural mix.That isnt there at the moment.
We still find it amazing they thought putting HD was more important than better coverage.Jeff ford should be ashamed the way hes talked about the show I would love to know who Gave him such terrible advice.

Does anybody know the 16-34s ratings for this series? It's pretty obvious that this series is primarily aimed at that demographic. I wonder if the show is successful there.

I honestly have no idea, as I don't read the papers. Were the papers reporting on it back then?

But you seemingly haven't picked up on the massively different personalities of the different housemates.

And, yet, in the past you've said exactly that.


Is that according to your source?


Sorry, you're right, three. Aaron and Faye, Jay and Louise, Aden and Rebeckah.

Apparently it's been regularly hitting 700K+ in the 16-34 demo. Which is one of the reasons I think there's not been the kind of panic many expected. I have a feeling they'd prefer 1.4m average with 50% of that from 16-34 than 2m with only 400K in the 16-34 bracket.

BB's definitely not been getting 700k+ in the 16-34 demo - not sure where you read that? Even Friday's eviction show, the third highest rating of the series, 'only' had 550k in the 16-34s.

Most highlights shows this series have had about 0.4m 16-34s watching.

I think this is a pretty fair assessment of the series so far, except I wasn't bothered that Faye got more votes than Jay since I'm not fond of either of them. Anyway, I very much doubt last night's bad ratings are a sign that ratings are going to go down since they came after one of the highest rated shows of the series.

No - I said it was a scripted soap. Which it is. It's mostly the producers following the script - they obviously don't hand out a script to each housemate. These HMs mostly have some acting experience but that doesn't mean they're any good No way would Jay, for instance, be able to follow a script.

Yes, according to my source each housemate is called to the DR on a regular basis and has certain things 'suggested' to them. Such 'suggesting' to Jay that he'd get along really well with Louise if he made a bit of effort. Etc. They don't actually say 'OK Tom, you go out there and annoy Aaron by doing an impersonation of Lady Gaga.' Or the like But they're certainly being directed in a way that didn't (often) happen in the C4 days.

Is it really only three? Seems like everyone has tried to get off with everyone else at some point. Must be because I'm ancient, thinking all these youngsters are forever getting off with each other

800K! Quite glad tbh Hopefully they will change to a more original format & not just outright axe it.

I definitely read it. Not sure if it was on here or Twitter. Someone put that forward as a reason for C5 being quite happy with the ratings BB is getting. Not surprised that isn't the case. I'm sure all concerned are extremely disappointed with what civilian BB has managed after the relative success of CBB.

But really, did they seriously expect 2.8m to watch these dullards when there was no LF? Everything is wrong with this series. Everything.

You have said exactly that.

If I said that then I was clearly talking out my arse Or not being serious.

I have to say that it isn't just the lack of LF that's the problem.
Even with a 24/7 feed I'd find these shallow HMs uninteresting to watch.

I read that 13 out of the 15 HMs have a media background. That says it all.

As I've just said in another thread - BB seems to have thrown the rule book out of the window. They don't even care if HMs write messages to each other now - something Nasty Nick was thrown out for.

Plus, the fact that the housemates have zero incentive to actually do their best in tasks is another fail. They treat the food budget as a joke, using it to buy stupid things, knowing full well BB will give them free pizzas and booze which they'll then throw around the house. BB doesn't test the HMs anymore. Imagine this lot with the rich / poor divide or a slop / chickpea diet?

The producers clearly don't care about the show, so why should the audience?

I have to disagree that the power of suggestion wasn't being used in the C4 days. Especially in the past few series. When the story editors have setup a storyline, there is no doubt going to be intereference using suggestion to continue the storyline they're running. It happened a lot in BB11, especially with John James. He was being directed all the time, and I'm pretty sure it even went beyond suggestion. Or in previous series when housemates go on dates. All of that kind of nonsense is scripted, and forced upon the housemates whether they like it or not.

I think forcing housemates into situations is not a new thing, but since we have no live feed to hear people mentioning off-hand comments about their DR sessions that they were previously told not to discuss, it's even more likely that blatant suggestions are pulled off in this series without any need to hide it, like in previous series.

1.33m for an 11pm show sounds decent enough. Gawd, a 50% drop in audience from one night to the next though. Didn't know Aden had so many fans lol!

Friday night, Anton was in tears, claiming he hated the boos, he would have to change his game, he argued with the wrong person..............24 hours later, he loves being the villain and hes going to the final


I wonder if BB has had a word.........for ratings sakes BB needs a villain

Yet another BIG record achieved by C5 below 900,000 that are certainly collecting a string of first with this BB.

It shattered the million viewers mark.

Lowest ever rating for an eviction.

An eviction rated lower than the weekly average.

Now the lowest rated ever BB highlights.

Can it get close too or even break through that elusive 500,000 barrier before the end of the series?

In a word, no. Absolutely no chance.

P.S. One highlights show on Channel 4 in July 2009 averaged 1m (5%), so the figure it got on Saturday is not exactly unprecedented. Saturday is it's bogey night, has been for some time.

I've read people trying to bump up the ratings by taking an average across BB and CBB!!

What next taking into account the population of China and claiming at least 10% would watch BB, as a way to falsify the ratings?

If this is a GREAT series how come the word isn't out there via Desmond's rags or via the social networks the producers said they would fully embrace?

Accept it, live with it, it ain't BB and people in their millions have rejected OK on TV.

That works both ways though. I've also read articles saying BB started with over 5 million and is now below 1 million. When of course, the 5m+ figure is referring to Celebrity Big Brother. The dropoff for Big Brother has been much smaller from a high of 2.6m. It's clearly related to the two following on from eachother.

Anyway, back to the actual figures rather than opinion: 1.19m / 4.3% (peak: 1.42m), watched Sunday's show.

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

Next you'll me telling me your dog ate your homework.

Not long ago people said it would not go below a million and it did and now has sunk even further lower.

I thought Desmond paid £40m for Big Brother not the Sinking of the Titanic.

Nah. I thought long before it arrived on Channel 5 that it would struggle on Saturdays. Outside of that night it has not fallen below 1m.

But even if you toss in CBB, the average thus far is only 2m and likely to fall further....below the mark Alan Ford probably set for BB on its own.

886,000 is an actual figure.

That will be landing on Alan Ford's desk today like a frozen turd.