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Old 11-09-2004, 20:50
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This is not an opportunity to have a go at anyone LEGITIMATELY claiming benefit but... as a taxpayer, I am angry to discover that someone I know is a benefit cheat.

Should I?

Would you shop a cheat - someone you knew?
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Old 11-09-2004, 20:52
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Yes. I work for benefits, so for me, of course I would. I dont like wasting my time on people's claims when they're fraudulent, when I could be spending my time on legitimate people who need it.
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Old 11-09-2004, 20:55
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Yes. I work for benefits, so for me, of course I would. I dont like wasting my time on people's claims when they're fraudulent, when I could be spending my time on legitimate people who need it.
I also used to work for the DWP and would waste no time in shopping a cheat, I got to see the real cost these people have on society and its horrifying.

Theres an anonymous number you can call have a look on google for it and give them a ring

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Old 11-09-2004, 20:55
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Yes I would and I did earlier this year. I legitamitely claim benefits and it angers me that I should be tarred with the same brush.
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Old 11-09-2004, 21:25
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I haven't done so far . But every time my husband's friend comes around and brags about his new this ,that , or the other I get more tempted . The only thing that stops me , to be honest is knowing that he would be round to my house moaning about it when he got caught .
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Old 11-09-2004, 21:34
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Old 11-09-2004, 21:37
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I had a work mate, who claimed he had left his wife so that she could get a place for her and the baby. I thought of repoting him, but I was never to sure of what lies he and told and who i should report him to. Also I was worried for the baby.
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Old 11-09-2004, 21:38
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Most definitely - people who work whilst drawing benefit are parasites. I suspect that the DWP only ever catch a tiny fraction of the cheats though.
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Old 11-09-2004, 21:46
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Theres always another way of looking at the problem......aint there.....

http://www.thisismoney.com/20040820/nm81629.html
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Old 11-09-2004, 21:52
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Originally Posted by Urbansquared
Use this number 0800 854 440.
or the web site
https://secure.dwp.gov.uk/benefitfraud/
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Old 11-09-2004, 21:55
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BUNCH OF GRASSES

what if the "cheat" is finding it hard to feed his or her kids?
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Old 11-09-2004, 22:06
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Originally Posted by Hamiltonguy
BUNCH OF GRASSES

what if the "cheat" is finding it hard to feed his or her kids?
Exactly.....what I find most disturbing is the fact that our young people are starting to pay tax at a very low level of income .....while.....the rich bast*rds pay very little tax.......
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Old 11-09-2004, 22:53
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Originally Posted by izzi
This is not an opportunity to have a go at anyone LEGITIMATELY claiming benefit but... as a taxpayer, I am angry to discover that someone I know is a benefit cheat.

Should I?

Would you shop a cheat - someone you knew?
hypothetically what about someone who gets for example carers allowance and had to give up full time employment to look after a dying relative but finds it hard to survive on the benefits given, and even when said relative dies still doesnt mean they can get immediate employment due to the potential grieving process-would you deny someone like that extra money if they arent stereotypical scrounging "dole scum" and before this they were also a taxpayer who enjoyed work?
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Old 11-09-2004, 22:58
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Originally Posted by Hamiltonguy
BUNCH OF GRASSES

what if the "cheat" is finding it hard to feed his or her kids?
what like the rest of us, who actually just have to work harder and longer hours instead of stealing someone elses legitimate benefits....

shop him and dont think twice about it.
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Old 11-09-2004, 23:05
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Originally Posted by Hamiltonguy
BUNCH OF GRASSES

what if the "cheat" is finding it hard to feed his or her kids?
Why "cheat" in inverted commas? If somebody is getting money on the side as well as their unemployment benefit, then that's wrong, full stop.

Can't feed the kids? That's what benefits are there for. There are thousands of people across the country who can make ends meet on benefit, however difficult it is. If they can do it, why can't the cheats do it too...

(As an aside: i used to do a lot of work on a council estate. Nothing would infuriate me more than seeing people -- often young mothers -- queue up for their benefit money at the Post Office counter at the newsagent, and having received it, walk straight over and buy 60 fags. It's somethign I could just never understand.)
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Old 11-09-2004, 23:29
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Originally Posted by izzi
This is not an opportunity to have a go at anyone LEGITIMATELY claiming benefit but... as a taxpayer, I am angry to discover that someone I know is a benefit cheat.

Should I?

Would you shop a cheat - someone you knew?
Yes, I would. I think I would be pretty disgusted with them...and say so. But that is me, hon, I am not telling you to do it MY way.

I have seen to much misery of people who need it who can't get enough, legitimately.

Just how much of a cheat is this person? I mean are we talking not owning up to doing a "foreigner" now and then, and therefore not paying taxes - or someone -claiming unemployment benefits and working? What?

Some years ago my sister and husband were struggling to bring up three kids and pay their mortgage, whilst a woman a few streets away was strutting up and down with new prams, expensive perms and clothes, and sodding off on foreign holidays. How ? Well she had claimed that her husband had left her, but my sister knew that he was around the place and living with her

Some people just think that they are a special case. It is like they say. The rich steal from the poor and the poor steal from each other. All these big business types pay an accountant to find wangles out of paying tax - disgraceful
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Old 11-09-2004, 23:30
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Originally Posted by Hamiltonguy
BUNCH OF GRASSES

what if the "cheat" is finding it hard to feed his or her kids?
Bunch of grasses? Well saying your from Hamilton - it sticks out like a sore thumb. GROW UP this isn't a playground any more, and people are not telling tales!

Benefit cheats are as good as any common scumbag thief. If she can't afford to feed kids - do not have them.

Maybe if half the single parents that can't wait to drop their drawers to get the financial benefits, whilst raising another parasite to fall in to EXACTLY the same trap DID NOT Have the chldren, they could afford to keep themselves. Or at the very least the state could afford to pay them more.

Raring_to_Go - exactly what do YOU know about the tax system? How much tax do the top taxpayers pay? Do you know?

You know it's as much as 40%???

And you might think that this is only a pittance... if you add up ALL the benefits being cheated, and income NOT being declared to the Inland Revenue it would pay for a LOT more public services.

Departments which can help stamp out scumbag thiefs in disguise.

I know loads of benefit cheats - if there were a financial reward, I could shop them all, collect the dough and buy myself a house elsewhere

I admit benefits are not huge, but they are there to support people so they can find work - not to be an allowance on top of illegal wage earnings.
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Old 11-09-2004, 23:35
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Originally Posted by Joe'sgirl
Some people just think that they are a special case. It is like they say. The rich steal from the poor and the poor steal from each other. All these big business types pay an accountant to find wangles out of paying tax - disgraceful
No your mistaken. Tax is a very complex system, and there is more than one way to do things.

We don't steal, or find ways out of things - all income is declared, everything is above board within our profession and we simply declare tax in a manner which is most efficient to our clients.

If you do have any querys I'm sure ICAS, ICAEW, ACCA or ATT will answer them for you - if you want to widen your education on matters you blatently don't know what your talking about.
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Old 11-09-2004, 23:37
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i don't know any cheats so can't really say, depends on if i liked them or not probably
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Old 11-09-2004, 23:56
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Originally Posted by izzi
This is not an opportunity to have a go at anyone LEGITIMATELY claiming benefit but... as a taxpayer, I am angry to discover that someone I know is a benefit cheat.

Should I?

Would you shop a cheat - someone you knew?
I would be inclined to report someone who was cheating on either their tax or benefits in a significant way. If they were a friend I would try to persuade them to stop first and help them to work out ways to ballance their books without cheating. I know some people find it hard to make ends meet but cheating the tax and benefit system is taking money which should be spent on people with legitimate benefit claims.
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Old 12-09-2004, 00:04
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Originally Posted by Big_Bro_Man
No your mistaken. Tax is a very complex system, and there is more than one way to do things.

We don't steal, or find ways out of things - all income is declared, everything is above board within our profession and we simply declare tax in a manner which is most efficient to our clients.

If you do have any querys I'm sure ICAS, ICAEW, ACCA or ATT will answer them for you - if you want to widen your education on matters you blatently don't know what your talking about.

Excuse me! I worked as a tax officer long before you were born - do NOT teach your grandmother to suck eggs.
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Old 12-09-2004, 00:18
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Originally Posted by Big_Bro_Man
No your mistaken. Tax is a very complex system, and there is more than one way to do things.

We don't steal, or find ways out of things - all income is declared, everything is above board within our profession and we simply declare tax in a manner which is most efficient to our clients.

If you do have any querys I'm sure ICAS, ICAEW, ACCA or ATT will answer them for you - if you want to widen your education on matters you blatently don't know what your talking about.
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Old 12-09-2004, 00:21
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Originally Posted by Joe'sgirl
Excuse me! I worked as a tax officer long before you were born - do NOT teach your grandmother to suck eggs.
So how on earth can you say it's disgraceful?

It's earning your profession money; yourself money; and your clients which is the overall aim of your job surely?

I wouldn't take a pacifist into war, and I certainly wouldn't take you into a CA firm.

Most of our clients were people that used to sit around on their ass one day, but they used their brain and motivation - got up and started something for themselves.

So how can you deny them their own wealth? It's not their fault if a few groups of people want to stay home all day - do nothing for themselves and expect us to carry them?
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Old 12-09-2004, 00:25
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Originally Posted by Pioneer31
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Would you let me loose on your business?

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Old 12-09-2004, 00:29
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I have in the past and will again shop any defrauders of benefit or income tax.
My conscience is clear.
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