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3 offers UNLIMITED data option on all tariffs
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old bill2
27-09-2011
Whilst some networks are doubling the cost of out of bundle data usage, 3 are going to offer the option of unlimited on all their plans for a extra £3.00 pm.
http://www.reghardware.com/2011/09/2...very_customer/
davethorp
27-09-2011
Reading the comments on three's blog there's a couple of exclusions

1. Tethering will only be permitted on one plan still
2. Sim only customers cannot add £3 a month to their tariff to get unlimited data. They need to be on the one plan

Still it's a pretty good deal for customers not on the one plan (if they don't need tethering or their handset allows tethering without 3 knowing about it)
jcm193
27-09-2011
There either extremely confident there network can cope with the added data usage or there going to royally screw over existing customers like me and totally overload the network just for a few extra pounds per customer.
koantemplation
27-09-2011
Does anyone know if you can use a 3g dongle with the new PAYG sims?

The website says you can only use them with 3g phones.
koantemplation
27-09-2011
Originally Posted by jcm193:
“There either extremely confident there network can cope with the added data usage or there going to royally screw over existing customers like me and totally overload the network just for a few extra pounds per customer.”

They'll probably traffic manage the network and people will only get really slow speeds in the evening.
Thine Wonk
27-09-2011
In the US they don't have limits, all of the packages on 3G come unlimited I think.

Most people don't go crazy day in day out, all it means for most is not having to worry about unexpected bills.

With dual backhaul providers and Orange joinging MBNL it should be ok capacity wise.
wod1
27-09-2011
3 are good in my area, so i dont think its a capacity issue just more a further improving the coverage so the blackspots are less because there are some due to masts being too low etc.
QTC13
27-09-2011
The "3 bashers" will be along shortly to slate this idea...
*MikeB*
27-09-2011
Originally Posted by davethorp:
“2. Sim only customers cannot add £3 a month to their tariff to get unlimited data. They need to be on the one plan”

So it's not really for all customers then is it? Why do they say ALL CUSTOMERS?
Thine Wonk
27-09-2011
Originally Posted by QTC13:
“The "3 bashers" will be along shortly to slate this idea...”

They're only jealous because they're paying a lot more, not getting the same data speeds and limited to 500MB.

Course they'll convince themselves that they don't need more than 500MB whilst downloading everything on wifi at home instead of having the freedom to just use the data how you want.

Over a million customers made the switch to Three in the last year and a million more could in the next year after this announcement.
TheBigM
27-09-2011
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“In the US they don't have limits, all of the packages on 3G come unlimited I think.

Most people don't go crazy day in day out, all it means for most is not having to worry about unexpected bills.

With dual backhaul providers and Orange joinging MBNL it should be ok capacity wise.”

That's not true. In the US, they HAD unlimited plans and then they scrapped them, first bringing in limits and then lowering those limits over time.

I think some unlimited plans have been recently reintroduced. I've read quite a few tech blogs where authors have moaned about being stuck on old plans so they don't lose their unlimited data.
Thine Wonk
27-09-2011
Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“They'll probably traffic manage the network and people will only get really slow speeds in the evening.”

Or maybe people just won't use more data, it's just nice to have the freedom and to know you're not going to be charged.

Most users on unlimited data packages only use 1GB on average.

http://gadgeteer.org.uk/2011/06/10/h...f-it-seems-so/

So it's win win, the appeal of unlimited is desirable. Knowing you can if you want to stream or download a lot 1 month and then not so much in other months seems to be what matters.
Thine Wonk
27-09-2011
Originally Posted by TheBigM:
“That's not true. In the US, they HAD unlimited plans and then they scrapped them, first bringing in limits and then lowering those limits over time.

I think some unlimited plans have been recently reintroduced. I've read quite a few tech blogs where authors have moaned about being stuck on old plans so they don't lose their unlimited data.”

Verizon and AT&T are phasing out their unlimited plans, Sprint say they won't be. So yes, I hadn't realised that recently a couple of large operators were phasing them out. Thanks for the update. Historically the US has had unlimited 3G.
swills
27-09-2011
Originally Posted by QTC13:
“The "3 bashers" will be along shortly to slate this idea...”

The likes of VF duped thier customers into getting smartphones, by saying that smartphones were data hungry and you will need a tariff that has 'unlimited', then about 8 months or less later, started saying that unlimited really means 500MB, and that if/when you go over it will cost more, got stung like this with VF, so when the contract is up in a couple of months, bye bye VF

Think 02 did the same !
Darth-Habib
28-09-2011
Is interesting, in the light of this revelation by 3 yesterday.

Mobile phone operator Three has warned that it may run out of capacity in urban areas by the end of next year if the UK's 4G spectrum auction fails to go ahead as planned.

Networks are facing ever increasing consumer demand for mobile data as smartphones, tablet computers and other devices become more widespread.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/new...rum-share.html
david.boobis
28-09-2011
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“They're only jealous because they're paying a lot more, not getting the same data speeds and limited to 500MB.

Course they'll convince themselves that they don't need more than 500MB whilst downloading everything on wifi at home instead of having the freedom to just use the data how you want.

Over a million customers made the switch to Three in the last year and a million more could in the next year after this announcement.”

I was on unlimited with the original iPhone plan from O2, which I agree was nice, but since I upgraded to the SGS2 with a 500MB plan I've only gone over this limit once, and that was because I was messing around with ROMs and kernels on the move (which isn't wise even if you've got unlimited data!). Seeing as O2 give you unlimited use of The Cloud and BT Openzone as well, there's really no need for unlimited data now. It's an unnecessary luxury.
finbaar
28-09-2011
I was going to post the BBC link about Three saying it was going to run out of bandwidth. This will onlt hasten that day.

Any operator can give unlimited data to customers who can't get a signal especialy if the are in doors. Going to be very usefull all that data in the middle of the winter when you are standing outside in the rain on the top of a hill trying to get one bar.
Thine Wonk
28-09-2011
Originally Posted by david.boobis:
“I was on unlimited with the original iPhone plan from O2, which I agree was nice, but since I upgraded to the SGS2 with a 500MB plan I've only gone over this limit once, and that was because I was messing around with ROMs and kernels on the move (which isn't wise even if you've got unlimited data!). Seeing as O2 give you unlimited use of The Cloud and BT Openzone as well, there's really no need for unlimited data now. It's an unnecessary luxury.”

For you maybe. I use about 1.5GB a month and I like to use that amount. I would be paying a lot more on O2 for that, if it would even be available and even then it would be no good to me on O2 as I don't get 3G at home or when travelling out of the main towns etc
plymouthbloke1974
28-09-2011
I have 750MB with my plan on Voda and have just paid £2.50 to have another 500MB bolted on to what I have got already on my plan. 750MB was OK (got close to exceeding it once or twice though), 1.25GB will give me the extra should I need it, and if I use more than that in a month, then I'll pay more.

I'd rather have that and fast speeds on Voda (I get up to 5.5MBit/sec) over Three's network that sounds like it's slowed to a crawl....

As the saying goes, you get what you PAY for.
Thine Wonk
28-09-2011
Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
“I have 750MB with my plan on Voda and have just paid £2.50 to have another 500MB bolted on to what I have got already on my plan. 750MB was OK (got close to exceeding it once or twice though), 1.25GB will give me the extra should I need it, and if I use more than that in a month, then I'll pay more.

I'd rather have that and fast speeds on Voda (I get up to 5.5MBit/sec) over Three's network that sounds like it's slowed to a crawl....

As the saying goes, you get what you PAY for.”

I'm getting 5Mbps on Three

http://speedtest.net/android/87031380.png
http://speedtest.net/android/84180592.png

People with the HSPA+ devices are reportedly getting 10+ here (5 mins in on that video) on Three.
wavejockglw
28-09-2011
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“I'm getting 5Mbps on Three, people with the HSPA+ devices are reportedly getting 10 to 13Mbps on Three.”

And in Cental Scotland I manage less than 1mb/s on 3 when Vodafone delivers 6Mb/s.

3 are bleating a lot but they have the most 2100Mhz of any operator. (We have to bear in mind the history of some very pro 3 posters when reading posts here).

Sure 3 will whine but if they are given major concessions they will use that advantage to charge more for services so it is vital that all the service providers get bandwith to maintain competition for the development of mobile data services in the UK. It's easy for 3 to gain short term popularity by providing data at a loss and claiming demand will be too much for them. Price controls demand to some extent and no company should be rewarded by deliberately loss leading at any quality expense to force the issue on future spectrum allocation. I'm sure Ofcom have already sussed out the companies different stratagies.
On the Rocks
28-09-2011
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“I'm getting 5Mbps on Three

http://speedtest.net/android/87031380.png
http://speedtest.net/android/84180592.png

People with the HSPA+ devices are reportedly getting 10+ here (5 mins in on that video) on Three.”

I'm not a Three basher, but it should be pointed out that those tests were done at 4am and 6am.
Thine Wonk
28-09-2011
Sorry Wavejock I don't believe you, you make up so much stuff about Three and bash them for everything this is probably just another ploy to bash them. If you hated them as much as you post on here then I don't believe you even have a Three contract.

Three 'whining' as you put it is too right, they paid billions (literally) for the 3G spectrum while the likes of O2 and Vodafone got the 2G spectrum virtually free, now those operators have been allowed to reuse that for 3G at no extra cost.

Now O2 and Vodafone are acting against the interests of the consumers and in a bully boy way threatening to sue Ofcom purely to delay 4G. That should be enough reason to ditch O2 and support the others who aren't doing that.

Ofcom welcomes Three's disruptive and forward thinking approach, far from using as an excuse the put the prices up Three are trying to fight for the consumer and the 4G deadline to be kept to.

I think you'll find Vodafone are the ones who like price rises, they've increased their prices recently and rounded up their bills, but only of course "to make things simpler for you".

Nice to have a network that cares about making things simpler for you. Shame they don't care about delaying 4G.
Thine Wonk
28-09-2011
Originally Posted by On the Rocks:
“I'm not a Three basher, but it should be pointed out that those tests were done at 4am and 6am.”


Good point I'll do some new ones.
wavejockglw
28-09-2011
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Sorry Wavejock I don't believe you, you make up so much stuff about Three and bash them for everything this is probably just another ploy to bash them. If you hated them as much as you post on here then I don't believe you even have a Three contract.

Three 'whining' as you put it is too right, they paid billions (literally) for the 3G spectrum while the likes of O2 and Vodafone got the 2G spectrum virtually free, now those operators have been allowed to reuse that for 3G at no extra cost.

Now O2 and Vodafone are acting against the interests of the consumers and in a bully boy way threatening to sue Ofcom purely to delay 4G. That should be enough reason to ditch O2 and support the others who aren't doing that.

Ofcom welcomes Three's disruptive and forward thinking approach, far from using as an excuse the put the prices up Three are trying to fight for the consumer and the 4G deadline to be kept to.

I think you'll find Vodafone are the ones who like price rises, they've increased their prices recently and rounded up their bills, but only of course "to make things simpler for you".

Nice to have a network that cares about making things simpler for you. Shame they don't care about delaying 4G.”

The above simply underlines the biased position I referred to and does not addess any real issues.

It's a vary blinkered 3 supportive view which most on this forum now clearly recognise.
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