[wilt]

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

3 are bleating a lot but they have the most 2100Mhz of any operator.

Except everything everywhere.

[Thine Wonk]

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

The above simply underlines the biased position I referred to and does not addess any real issues.

It's a vary blinkered 3 supportive view which most on this forum now clearly recognise.

And you have an extremely blinkered O2 and anti Three view which most on this forum clearly recognise. The only difference is I post facts and articles and substance and you post subjective and unsubstantiated things and just bash for the sake of bashing.

Several people private message me on here to talk about your posts. We've been through this before, nobody minds opinion, but you take it to another level. Generally when I post I post some figures or an article or help the discussion, you are destructive and just have an agenda / vendetta to pursue.

[wavejockglw]

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Originally Posted by wilt

Except everything everywhere.

But they are still two networks presently. 02 and Vodafone might have more 3G bandwidth now, certainly more robust 3G bandwidth at 900Mhz.

Anyway back to 3 UK and the warning by it's CEO that it might not be able to cope with the demand on data they are creating ..... so buyers should beware and remember 3 has an agenda to create an issue about bandwith now. For smartphone buyers it should be remembered that a bargain is not a bargain if you can't make use of it.

[Thine Wonk]

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

But they are still two networks presently. 02 and Vodafone might have more 3G bandwidth now, certainly more robust 3G bandwidth at 900Mhz.

Anyway back to 3 UK and the warning by it's CEO that it might not be able to cope with the demand on data they are creating ..... so buyers should beware and remember 3 has an agenda. A bargain is not a bargain if you can't use it.

I'd rather have unlimited even at slower speeds than a low cap. What's the use in only being able to download a few youtube videos and podcasts a month and then risk being charged a lot for going over.

If O2 and Vodafone don't continue to deliberately delay 4G auctions then there won't be an issue as the CEO is simply pointing out that in 2012 there may be capacity issues. Presumably this will hit T-mobile and Orange just as much too.

[wilt]

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

But they are still two networks presently. 02 and Vodafone might have more 3G bandwidth now, certainly more robust 3G bandwidth at 900Mhz.

Anyway back to 3 UK and the warning by it's CEO that it might not be able to cope with the demand on data they are creating ..... so buyers should beware and remember 3 has an agenda to create an issue about bandwith now. For smartphone buyers it should be remembered that a bargain is not a bargain if you can't make use of it.

You can try and pretend the pending network merger isn't affecting current strategy all you want, but the fact remains that you are once again posting inaccurate, or at best dubious, information in order to support your anti-three agenda. Which is much more obvious than Think Wonks pro-three agenda is.

[Thine Wonk]

I make no apologies for being a happy Three customer, I don't work for them but I have been on the network since 2004 and it's got better and better over the years. Everything I post here are my own opinions and I don't deliberately try to mislead people.

I've posted positive things about other networks and have expressed different views on different aspects of the various networks, but what we see from Wave appears to be just a vendetta of some kind. The bashing from 1 thing to the next is endless, it's like a torrent of abuse or negativity over and over.

[wavejockglw]

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Originally Posted by wilt

You can try and pretend the pending network merger isn't affecting current strategy all you want, but the fact remains that you are once again posting inaccurate, or at best dubious, information in order to support your anti-three agenda. Which is much more obvious than Think Wonks pro-three agenda is.

It's not as I have posted some pro 3 posts when I think they have been doing things that have been customer advantages. The current promotion of data is a starategy move to attempt to force the regulator to give them some advantage which they will seek to profit from in the future. My concern is that they will deliberately attract too many customers at low prices and provide poor service quality to make their point and leave 1000s suffering as a result. Much the same as happened in 2003/4 when they launched prematurely and could not even carry voice calls reliably.

Right now all of the mobile operators are 'positioning' and 'posturing' but hopefully not at the expense of their service provision.

Interesting to read the press reports about 3's new man in charge and how he wants to double the user base from 5 million to 10 million in 4 years. One has to wonder what happened to the previous count of 7.5 million that Hutchison Whampoa quoted in their most recent stats?

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...27-705404.html

[The_Sleeper]

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

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Wave, can you have a look -in tae the talksport thread ?

They love askin,how much a "J D " makes on the tSport thread ???? if you dont mind !!

[Thine Wonk]

Ok, lets break down this post:

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

The current promotion of data is a starategy move to attempt to force the regulator to give them some advantage which they will seek to profit from in the future.

No it's surely to grow their business. At very worst it's to put at argument to the regulator why delaying the 4G auctions (which O2 and Vodafone are trying to do) shouldn't happen.

However you don't know it's it's all conjecture posted as fact. See what you did there?

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

My concern is that they will deliberately attract too many customers at low prices and provide poor service quality to make their point and leave 1000s suffering as a result.

Ahh I see, so will you be proposing that O2 tells 1/2 of it's customers to go then? after all they let their VMNOs give away unlimited data for a tenner and they will likely not have the capcity with their 30Million customers either?

Plus isn't that why these companies are in business, to sign up customers? isn't that why they paid billions for the licence? oh wait O2 didn't pay billions for 900Mhz did it? no it got virtually given it for free. That sounds fair to 1) let them use it for 3G and 2) let them now try and delay 4G, don't hear you saying anything about that.

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

Much the same as happened in 2003/4 when they launched prematurely and could not even carry voice calls reliably.

Another unnecessary dig that has nothing what so ever to do with the current conversation except to show your agenda.

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

Interesting to read the press reports about 3's new man in charge and how he wants to double the user base from 5 million to 10 million in 4 years. One has to wonder what happened to the previous count of 7.5 million that Hutchison Whampoa quoted in their most recent stats?

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...27-705404.html

What they are probably referring to there is the last set of full accounts, rather than the figures up to the current month, but who knows, maybe he got it wrong, maybe the newspaper misquoted, who knows. Interesting you refuse to accept figures or articles anyone else posts, but you post a news article and it's suddenly very different.