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Old 28-09-2011, 15:46
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Kindle Fire + Amazon Prime + Amazon's content = must have device.

This will be my first tablet.
Dual Core
Gorilla Glass
16 million colors
169 pixels per inch
Multitouch
free cloud storage
Whispersync
Amazon Silk - Cloud accelerated mobile browser
14.6 ounces.
US$199 (So under £200)

Whats not to love?

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unlimited streaming from a huge library.
ships November 15th
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Old 28-09-2011, 15:54
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It will retail for $199 in the US. That is very good value.

I don't know what their Silk browser is like though.
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Old 28-09-2011, 15:56
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Just following it.
It is highly possible that they have licensed Opera Mobile or maybe even Skyfire.

£200 I imagine here.
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Old 28-09-2011, 16:04
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I was more impressed with the Kindle Touch at $99, that I'll definately buy, whenever it actually is available here.
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Old 28-09-2011, 16:27
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The Kindle Touch seemed more a gimmick to me. Touch doesn't really add anything to the Kindle IMO.

The new, cheaper Kindle is available for pre-order in Amazon UK though for £89 (because we don't get the ad-subsidised version).

The Kindle Fire looks good though, and is definitely priced right. It might even tempt me, although i still don't know what a tablet would be useful for. Might wait for v2 though and hope there's a mic and camera included, and CyanogenMod gets ported onto it.
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Old 28-09-2011, 16:33
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It is just an IPS screen so good indoors, not so great out.
Makes it very decent value though as does that 'developer castrating' free APP per day.
Possible lack of camera, mini HDMI and SD card slot eat into value. An SD slot I'd value the most.

+ The Amazon cloud hype is a sort of acknowledgement of how slow ARM CPUs are. Though like Opera it may improve the unmentioned battery life.
Considering Apple just lost their appeal to patent multi touching a screen, its quite funny to see Amazon highlight it several times.
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Old 28-09-2011, 16:39
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It is just an IPS screen so good indoors, not so great out.
Makes it very decent value though as does that 'developer castrating' free APP per day.

Possible lack of camera, mini HDMI and SD card slot eat into value. An SD slot I'd value the most.
The good news on that is that this will appeal to the book/music/movie buying crowd. If you buy those things, there's a chance you'll buy apps too. The more apps people buy, the more developers will support it.
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Old 28-09-2011, 16:53
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Kindle Fire + Amazon Prime + Amazon's content = must have device.

This will be my first tablet.
Dual Core
Gorilla Glass
16 million colors
169 pixels per inch
Multitouch
free cloud storage
Whispersync
Amazon Silk - Cloud accelerated mobile browser
14.6 ounces.
US$199 (So under £200)

Whats not to love?

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unlimited streaming from a huge library.
ships November 15th
US only for the time being though
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Old 28-09-2011, 16:55
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Old 28-09-2011, 16:59
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Additional info:
1024 x 600 display
8GB internal
USB 2.0
8 hours battery life
7.5" x 4.7" x 0.45" (190 mm x 120 mm x 11.4 mm)
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Old 28-09-2011, 17:02
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but....

No additional storage?

Amazon content only - cannot connect to the regular Android market?
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Old 28-09-2011, 17:08
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Archos 80 G2 Info, available now at £200

1024 X 768 TN 4/3 aspect ratio screen, but decent viewing angles.
Mini HDMI slot
720p encoding front camera
MicroSDHC slot, USB host and slave. Accepts a 3G dongle. (not sure if just theirs)
Built in GPS, g-sensor, compass and mic.
10 hour battery.

So which is better?
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Old 28-09-2011, 17:25
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Archos 80 G2 Info, available now at £200

1024 X 768 TN 4/3 aspect ratio screen, but decent viewing angles.
Mini HDMI slot
720p encoding front camera
MicroSDHC slot, USB host and slave. Accepts a 3G dongle. (not sure if just theirs)
Built in GPS, g-sensor, compass and mic.
10 hour battery.

So which is better?
The Kindle Fire right?
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Old 28-09-2011, 17:33
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but....

No additional storage?

Amazon content only - cannot connect to the regular Android market?
Yeah, doesn't meet the Google standard so none of the Google apps or Market.
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Old 28-09-2011, 17:34
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Amazon wins for brand name.
I've not seen either but as a computer and even as a car gadget the Archos is streets ahead.
The Amazon tablet is certainly for those with their head in the clouds.

+ OK it is Fired up for the US. I've no idea what the production run is but if it is a sell-out for November 15 then it's 2012 before it arrives here.
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Old 28-09-2011, 17:38
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Yeah, doesn't meet the Google standard so none of the Google apps or Market.
Not interested then, it's going to be very limited in my opinion. A decent eReader and internet browser maybe, but that's about it.
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Old 28-09-2011, 17:56
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Not interested then, it's going to be very limited in my opinion. A decent eReader and internet browser maybe, but that's about it.
It's not aimed at us lot - the people who want to know the specs, root it, add roms and such.

It's aimed at ordinary people who probably don't even know Android Market exists.

Android barely got a mention in the presentation. This is an "Amazon tablet".
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Old 28-09-2011, 18:28
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It's not aimed at us lot .
It will almost certainly sell many times that of the Archos too.
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Old 28-09-2011, 18:37
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I like it, I'm already a Prime member, I'm trying to get my mom to buy it for me, lol!
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Old 28-09-2011, 18:39
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The Kindle Touch seemed more a gimmick to me. Touch doesn't really add anything to the Kindle IMO.
Dirty screen

BTW what is this Vibrant Color IPS screen. A fancy word for LCD or something better/closer to eInk?

The cheapest model for $79? I could buy 2 of these for what I paid for my 3G Kindle I have now. Although I do wonder how comfortable it will to make purchases from it without a proper keyboard.
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Old 28-09-2011, 18:40
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but....

No additional storage?

Amazon content only - cannot connect to the regular Android market?
Free Amazon Cloud storage from what I've read - not quite the same I know, but its the future, apparently.
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Old 28-09-2011, 18:48
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I watched the video....

http://www.amazon.com/gp/mpd/permalink/m4PZXKPGK3SQB/

It's very much focusing on content rather than specs. It's a device that will enable people to buy more stuff from Amazon.
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Old 28-09-2011, 18:50
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No additional storage
No connectivity
No Android market
Only 7" screen.
UK Cost likely to be at lest £200

I fail to see why people are excited about this.

Hanspree, Archos, Advent all have better tablets at a lower price point and work fine with Amazon as well.

You wan cloud storage, how about dropbox or skydrive. Both offer 25GB for free which will be plenty for most people.

I guess Amazon have to try and leverage their brand for all its worth and I'm sure there will be plenty of buyers. The type who would normally buy Apple, I can't see this hitting regular android tablet sales much.
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Old 28-09-2011, 19:16
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No additional storage
No connectivity
No Android market
Only 7" screen.
UK Cost likely to be at lest £200

I fail to see why people are excited about this.

Hanspree, Archos, Advent all have better tablets at a lower price point and work fine with Amazon as well.

You wan cloud storage, how about dropbox or skydrive. Both offer 25GB for free which will be plenty for most people.

I guess Amazon have to try and leverage their brand for all its worth and I'm sure there will be plenty of buyers. The type who would normally buy Apple, I can't see this hitting regular android tablet sales much.
I agree, it's nothing special.
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Old 28-09-2011, 19:26
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Amazon Fire is a good idea - it'll appeal to those who have been clamouring for a colour Kindle. However, it is rather expensive for what it is. As noted, you can already purchase equally powerful tablets with HDMI and SD slots etc. for less - and the Amazon suite of Apps work on them already.

The Amazon Kindle Fire is aimed at people who either don't realise that other things can run Amazon apps or are for those who want an all-in-one Amazon Device.

The price over here will be crucial. $200 does not mean £200...
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