I have preordered this for my husband for Christmas. I was deliberating as to whether to buy this or a refurbished Kindle 3 but he seemed to really love this one. I have a Kindle3 which he bought me last year and I absolutely love it..

My husband has always said he loves the feel of real books so I was surprised that he wants one to be honest which is another reason I did not want to pay any more than £89.

I've just realised that the new kindle doesn't have a speaker, so that means no text to speech, you cannot listen to audiobooks or mp3's, along with the reduced battery life and lower memory.

Never understood the reason to use it for audio books as most ppls phones and mp3 players can do thus anyway.

It may have less memory but as page turns are faster it hasn't negativly effected it.

Less battery life can also be a good thing as it reduces weight and in this case by a fair bit, and 1 month isnt exactly bad considering i have to charge my ipad every night!

I don't use the mp3 player on my kindle either but it's good to know it's there. I just feel like the new kindle is a step down. I think if I didn't already have a k3 and I wasn't concerned about the price I'd still buy a K3 now.

There's really no big difference between K3 and these models. They are using the same screen, so no change there. If I did not have a K3 3G already I could have been tempted with Touch 3G. Although looking at the prices I would have gone for K3 3G again. It's even cheaper now, bastards

Can see that Amazon have the Wi-Fi version available but don't seem to have the 3G refurbished available. Have searched Amazon and couldn't see any. My dog has just "eaten" my 3G kindle a week before I'm due to go on holiday for 2 weeks so I need a replacement!

Well I have finally done it, my pre-order is in with Amazon; for £89 you can't go too wrong.

Although I very nearly waited for the new Sony at only £130 if Sony do a bit of marketing I can see it been able to compete with the Kindle now, before I felt Sony had priced themselves out of the market. And if my local library did ebooks I defiantly would have gone for the Sony.

DRM can be removed from EPUB/PDF files if they belong to you (are encrypted with your encryption key). So if you do it, you can convert the files for Kindle. That's what I did with my EPUB collection when I moved from Sony to Kindle. You don't even have to have a Sony reader, you just set up your AdobeId with Digital Editions and use it for decryption of purchased books. I have this set up on my laptop, but after that initial conversion I did not need it anymore, all the books I bought since are from Amazon. Their catalogue is huge and usually have everything I want and for a competitive price, too.

I have now received my husbands Kindle. It looks gorgeous and I am a tiny bit jealous. The navigation button looks to be a good size. I was a little bit worried it would be tiny.

The only disappointment is that it does not come with a plug adapter for the usb lead. Luckily my husbands phone charger will fit.

While I agree I think to save waste companies should stop providing chargers as many people like me have about 4 in the house already that came with multiple devices such as Phone, Bluetooth Headsets or previous Ebook readers.

Exactly this.

I have a USB plug, and now I can plug my blackberry, my HTC phone, my Ipad, my Itouch AND now my new Kindle in all by their supplied USB cables.. No need for five plugs. Just one plug that I change the cable to as necessary


(I got the new £89 Kindle and, as I already have an Ipad etc, it suits my needs perfectly, a reader that I can read even in sunlight )

I'm hoping the Kindle Touch comes to The UK soon. It's got the same memory/batter/speaker as the Kindle Keyboard but without the wasted space of the keyboard.

Which I can see being useful on the web browser (although the low quality screen goes against this) but otherwise how often do you need to type on an eReader anyway? Incidentally I don't see the lower memory/battery being a problem. We're still talking 1400 books and a once a month charge.

The new Kindle is clearly designed to offer a sub-£100 Kindle and released to coincide with Christmas (it's not intended as an upgrade). I'd prefer the Kindle Touch also because the on-screen keyboard looks a lot easier to navigate than the one on the new Kindle with it's remote control style navigation buttons.

I'm not interested in the 3G model. I cannot see myself being away from Wireless often enough to need it. I'd likely make sure I have enough unread books bought before going away.

I'm happier to pay a bit extra for no-ads thanks. I don't get why there is no Kindle Touch in The UK though!


Thanks. How do you go about setting up "AdobeId with Digital Editions"?

I knew about Calibre (Kindle AZW to ePub / ePub to Kindle compatible MOBI) but not how to get around the DRM first. This link will tell you how to remove the DRM from Kindle AZW files (if you wish to go from Kindle to another eReader): http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/...ks-and-others/

You can then use Calibre to convert the AZW files into ePub: http://www.geekvixen.com/archives/413


Are you sure free 3G when abroad?

That seems unlikely. If so, that would be a compelling case to pay the extra for a 3G version. This link says it only works if Vodafone (the UK operater Amazon are using) also operate in that country too. There's a list of known countries it works in and some that it doesn't:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/forum/kindle/TxGPT17594YQYV

Digital Editions is a programme from Adobe, when you install it it asks you to create the AdobeId. It's usually your email address, you use it in online shops or libraries to purchase/borrow the books. To remove DRM, google: remove drm from epub. They don't like us to post any such links here. The solutions range from one click solutions to installing various Python scripts and doing everything manually. In either way it works and you'll get DRM free epub file that you can then convert to mobi with Calibre and use on your Kindle.

Ah got it thanks. You use "Digital Editions" so the files are readable on your PC and then other methods to remove the DRM.

I didn't realise I couldn't post about DRM here. Oops, my I cannot edit my post any more either .

Digital Editions also prepares your epub/pdf ereader, installs decryption key on it, so it can then read those encrypted files. It has to be this way, because shops provide just contents and use the same system. That's why an epub reader like Sony can be a bit overwhelming at the beginning for some people. Amazon otoh provides hardware and they are the only source of DRM protected books for Kindles, so their solution can be seemless.

As for talking about DRM, that's not a problem, I think. They draw a line with links to illegal activities, which this is. Although if you don't redistribute the freed books, I find it justifiable. Why should I buy the same book again, if I want to put it on another shelf.

Love my 2 yr old Kindle, and really like the look of this new one ....
Perhaps I will buy one each for my husband and son for Xmas, least I will get to borrow them

I picked up a Kindle 4 today from Currys and have to say I'm very impressed with it so far. I think that my only slight criticism would be that pressing the central button on the navigation key whilst reading a book doesn't turn the page.

The most comfortable way for me to hold it one handed has my thumb right over it and since it doesn't seem to do anything else whilst reading......

My Sony PRS-300 had the page turn button on the equivalent of the d-pad. I much prefer the page turn buttons on the kindle. It's much easier to turn the page when I'm standing up on the tube reading with one Hand. I've found that the page turn buttons are in the same poison where I naturally hold the kindle, so it's really easy for me to turn the page.

How did you manage to turn the pages one handed like that with a paper book?

Also got the Kindle 4 on the 12th and i am also impressed, it is noticeably much smaller and lighter than the Kindle 3 and page turns seems much faster (maybe because it doesn't need to do a refresh every time).

I'm going to get one to take with me when I'm not at home to save taking my KK, my KK actually does fit in my coat pocket but I did wish it was smaller then along comes a new Kindle. I don't think the 10% fast page turns should be listed as a selling point, it's not even that much quicker than the KK and both Kindles still turn pages quicker than it would take to turn a page in a book. Has anyone bought any of the cases off Amazon and if so what are they like (for the new Kindles)?

Just when I'd made up my mind to have a Kindle for Xmas a new one comes along, so it's back to the drawing board in decision making.

A few of questions if I may.

1) Is the Kindle 3 mentioned by a number of posters the old £111 Kindle?

2) Is the Kindle Keyboard shown in the centre column (scroll down a bit) of this comparison table from Amazon the old £111 Kindle - it looks very much like it.

3) The lack of a price in the above comparison table for the Kindle Keyboard (it's given as £79.99 in the main Amazon site) seems a bit ominous. Could it mean that they intend to stop producing it?

1) Yes

2) Yes

3) It's a possibility. The table on the KK shows the K4, the KK, and the KK3G. If you click through to the pages for the K4 or the KK3G the tables only show the K4 and the KK3G.

Even if the KK is discontinued Amazon will continue to support it for some time (in fact a new firmware for it was released just today).

Actually, looking at the page you linked to it may be that the KK has been discontinued anyway, since only refurbished models are currently available.

Anyway, don't let that deter you, buy it now. At £79 it's a bargain, and i'm really loving mine so far. I even purchased some books (Anne Bishop's Black Jewels Trilogy) after loading up with free ones.

Many thanks for the info.

I intended to delay the purchase as it will be an Xmas present (for me ) and it's always best to test within a month of purchase, and I doubt if Mrs T will let me play with it before Xmas.

As well as being cheaper it does seem better in some respects (battery life, number of books and a keyboard) than the new model. As I will be mainly using it in the house the weight and size differences shouldn't be a problem. As for lack of a keyboard see the video in this Cnet review. I wasn't overimpressed by the "soft" on-screen keyboard on the new model.

Currys are doing a deal where you get a £10 voucher to spend on something else a month after purchase.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/Christm...istmas_voucher

Offer ends 9/11/11

I got one and have a £10 voucher towards an itunes gift card for a christmas prezzie.

I must say the new kindle is really nice to hold, just waiting now for cheaper cases to come out to keep it in.