hmmmm no

Roger Friedman is the one who spread this rumour and then he got exposed. This guy has had so many bad encounters with Beyonce. He never has anything good to say about Beyonce, just google "Beyonce Roger Friedman" and you'll find out. The BC Jean thing is complete bullsh*t.

So the rumour broke out in October, album came out in November. On the album it says Written by Toby Gad and BC Jean. Where is Beyonce's name? no where to be seen!
Beyonce couldn't have changed the names of the credits because by that time Millions of copies have been printed and distributed to every country in the world.

The fact is that Beyonce's name is not on the credits and BC Jean is.

BC Jean herself came out and said Beyonce didn't steal the song.
http://ralphieaversa.com/2010/10/exc...-i-were-a-boy/

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50%?!!!

Really? 3 or 4 songs were questioned and you call that 50%?!!!

That's not all.As I said, I'm not disrespecting her obvious talent and it's not like stealing a couple of songs is going to make her less of a good performer, but there have been a lot of producers and songwriters who have questioned her originality, so there might be many more stolen songs than you think.And when I say stealing, I don't only mean snatching from another artist, I also mean asking a songwriter to pen them and then putting her name on it.That's considered stealing as well.

Anyway, as I said in my comment I don't know if she stole IIWAB and I just said it would be awful if she completely discredited the writer, which she didn't.I did clarify that she didn't include herself in the songwriting credits.

Yes, I think she's overrated.

She has a great voice and is a good performer (even if the performances get quite repetitive sometimes).

BUT the vast majority of her material is painfully bland.

She's new enough that the Grammy committee feel cool, but safe enough so they're not in a risk-taking position. If any female popstar was ever going to sweep the Grammys it would have had to be her.

Where was it exposed she was not paid off?

As amazing as Beyonce is, how do people compare her to the legendary female singers who have been around for decades, I.e Celine Dion or Mariah Carey. Beyonce may be a good singer but she cannot match these two. Their record sales speak for themselves, and although they are not dancers or performers, I think their voices entertain more than Beyonces ever will. I could see Beyonce going down the route of Celine eventually and heading to Vegas for a short residency.

Paid off for what?
Of course you get paid when you SELL something!!!!!!!!

She sold the song like many do but still gets credits for it and that's what happened

BC Jean quote:

So BC Jean knew about it before Beyonce had recorded the track!

I am sure her record sales are similar to theirs...

I never have, but as "pop singers" go she's one of the best around at the moment...

The tea has been spilt.
Mods, close thread please.

That's not what happened.

Beyonce's management bought the song without BC Jean's permission and she filed a complaint against them.

"After BC Jean's record deal did not push through, her manager sold the song to Beyonce Knowles without BC Jean's permission."

"The conflict between BC Jean and Beyonce are all settled now after BC Jean filed a complaint. Sources say that BC Jean and Beyonce had agreed to have a duet on BC Jean's debut album."

http://www.makoyskie.com/2008/10/bey...ntroversy.html

It's obvious even in the link you posted she doesn't want to talk about what happened with Beyonce.

"Sensing that something was “off”, I asked BC point-blank about the article’s claim that in exchange for “If I Were A Boy,” Beyoncé would guest on BC’s album.

“Well, that would be awesome… we’ll see… stay tuned,” Jean responded. “The album’s not completely done yet.”

And apparently, neither is the story behind the number one hit, which has sold over two million copies to date in the United States."

and that story according to who? Gossip websites? Roger Friedman? oh ok

Thanks but i will believe what the writer BC Jean said.

Overrated.

Fair enough.

I think it depends on who you ask.

By her stans, yes.

By the people on this forum who think all she does is 'scream and booty shake', no.

I don't think her performances are repetitive at all. She can do ballads, and she can do choreographed routines.

Some other singers just stand at a mic ALL the time, not that that's a bad thing, it's just if you're gonna say Beyoncé's repetitive then people Adele and even Rihanna must be too.

Totally agreed. Her versatility is what makes her such a star if anything, people just like to make up reasons for why they don't like her.

A few different types of performances from her:

Scared of Lonely 2009

Musical performance with Hugh Jackman at the Oscars

If I Were A Boy at 2010 Grammy's

Listen on Oprah

And of course

Billboard Performance of Run The World 2011

There are so many more amazing performances, but this might be a clue as to why America have so much respect for her.

She's very polished, like a robot. A talented robot but still.

I kind of agree with stvn758.

There is no denying she is a talented woman, she can wipe the floor with all other popstars around at the moment, and she can do amazing things on stage.

But, she is hyped ALOT, and always claims to have written and done things and then somebody else comes out and claims that she didn't.... Obviously we don't know what really goes on behind the scenes but it just seems a bit funny that its happened a few times...

Those are some great performances.

Yeah I sometimes think some people do make up reason to not like her. Some people won't change their opinion no matter what she does anyway.

It's like people criticize you if you don't try hard enough but then when you do try hard enough and you are near on perfection, people criticize you for being too robotic or whatever.

And as for the writing lawsuits etc, a lot of them are rumours that have no weight and the ones that are true, are never usually that big of a deal. A lot of great songwriters have said Beyonce had contributed to the song in a lot of ways, such as changing lyrics, changing the melody or all the other technical things involved in songwriting.

She's worked incredibly hard to get to where she is, the reason this country doesn't hype her the way America does, is due to the fact that America celebrate and admire success while our nation tends to be more interested in gossip and scandal on the whole.

With all due respect, Micheal Jackson was perfect performing wise, but noone criticized him for being too robotic or repetitive.Just saying...

I don't think she's overrated at all. I don't think there is any other female artist at the moment that can sing as well as Beyonce. I don't think there's any other female artist who can dance as well as her either. I know her material isn't to everyone's taste, but I love it and I love that she does the kind of music she wants to do. She has a fantastic repertoire of songs:

Crazy In Love
Naughty Girl
Baby Boy
Deja Vu
Irreplaceable
Green Light
Get Me Bodied
Sweet Dreams
If I were A Boy
Single Ladies
Halo

I think she's amazingly talented.

With respect, as a massive fan of MJ who followed his work and career, yes there were a lot of people who critcized him for that reason. There were a lot of people who said he couldn't sing and hyped Janet over him. The press did not do this, but a lot of people did criticize him for a lot of things, and it was worse than Beyonce on the whole. People like to remember things through rose-tinted glasses, but both MJ and Madonna got as much flack, if not worse, than Beyonce when they were at their respective peaks. And people did call MJ robotic, especially when his childhood was a talking point, people said his father had turned him into this robot, then he was a victim of abuse until eventually in the press, he became the abuser, so please don't try and rewrite history where Michael was concerned because he got criticized so badly by the press, it was disgusting!

That's true

That's not entirely true

Now that's false...

I stand corrected, but Beyonce is often criticized about her music and her vocals by professional critics too.Anyway...