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Do you think Beyoncé is overrated?
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flamecatcher
18-10-2011
Being completely honest, yes she is over rated. She has a great voice and can dance but a lot of people seem to think she is this god when she really isn't. She knows how to market and sell herself extremely well, like Gaga does.
da3bool
18-10-2011
Originally Posted by sofreshsoclean:
“The only one of those singers that is better on a technical level than Beyonce is Mariah. None of the others come close. Christina is just dreadful and an absolutely flawed vocallist. So is jennifer hudson. Mary J Blige is NEVER on key live. Her pitch and timing is awful. Jade Ewen is very good probably the second best UK vocallist but she's not on Beyonces level. Fantasia's capability? What capability?
Beyonce is the most skilled vocal technician of her generation. Shes uses her voice as an instrument. Her technique is absolutely sound. Her pitch and timing are unparalleled in her generation. She is fully resonant through her entire range with perfect projection and placement and perfect vibrato. Try and see christina and Jennifer sing as beautifully as Beyonce it would never happen. They are screamin wailing oversingers who have no respect for the melody of a song and no idea how to construct melismatic phrases that are grounded in the melody and chords of the music. Beyonce has full musicianship over her voice just as Mariah and Whitney had.”

little-monster
18-10-2011
Originally Posted by flamecatcher:
“Being completely honest, yes she is over rated. She has a great voice and can dance but a lot of people seem to think she is this god when she really isn't. She knows how to market and sell herself extremely well, like Gaga does.”

I wouldn't compare how she markets and sells herself like how Gaga does. Beyonce can do the one performance and that's it, job done. Gaga goes to extreme lengths to market and sell herself.
flamecatcher
18-10-2011
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“I wouldn't compare how she markets and sells herself like how Gaga does. Beyonce can do the one performance and that's it, job done. Gaga goes to extreme lengths to market and sell herself.”

Oh you're definitely right, she doesn't go to the extreme's that Gaga does. I didn't mean she does it like Gaga does, I meant by how that they know how to generate a buzz around them, get the people talking and get the money coming in.
len112
18-10-2011
Originally Posted by sofreshsoclean:
“The only one of those singers that is better on a technical level than Beyonce is Mariah. None of the others come close. Christina is just dreadful and an absolutely flawed vocallist. So is jennifer hudson. Mary J Blige is NEVER on key live. Her pitch and timing is awful. Jade Ewen is very good probably the second best UK vocallist but she's not on Beyonces level. Fantasia's capability? What capability?
Beyonce is the most skilled vocal technician of her generation. Shes uses her voice as an instrument. Her technique is absolutely sound. Her pitch and timing are unparalleled in her generation. She is fully resonant through her entire range with perfect projection and placement and perfect vibrato. Try and see christina and Jennifer sing as beautifully as Beyonce it would never happen. They are screamin wailing oversingers who have no respect for the melody of a song and no idea how to construct melismatic phrases that are grounded in the melody and chords of the music. Beyonce has full musicianship over her voice just as Mariah and Whitney had.”

You sure you're not being a tad biased , maybe just a little bit ?
sofreshsoclean
18-10-2011
Originally Posted by len112:
“You sure you're not being a tad biased , maybe just a little bit ?”

Nope not at all
len112
19-10-2011
Originally Posted by sofreshsoclean:
“Nope not at all”

Thought as much
sofreshsoclean
19-10-2011
Originally Posted by da3bool:
“Jennifer Hudson is a better belter than Beyonce?!!!!

I've heard it all now!”

I know right!!!!!!!!! Jennifer Hudson who has her supermix all the way through her belting range. For someone who is classed as having a 'powerful' voice she has the thinnest tone i've ever heard. Absolutely no resonance. Shes just loud and thats it. At the oscars when her and beyonce performed together Jhud belted F5 and beyonce came out belting F5 and completely drowned Jhud out. If you put Beyonce and Jhud on a stage with no microphone Beyonce would be hear the farthest and most because she has the more powerful voice because she places her voice perfectly and so achieves actual resonance rather than shouting and bellowing like Jhud.

Jhud has a larger belting range but she is not better at belting than Beyonce. And no christina is NOT the voice of her generation. Justin timberlake first coined that term for her and im not taking that weasels word for anything. Christina has the most flawed voice ever for someone who is considered to be a great vocallist. Just every single aspect of her voice is flawed

Her tone is forced and muffled.
She sings from her throat and so has limited resonance so to display 'power' she shouts and roars.
Chronic oversinger with a crap musical ear and has no musicianship over her voice and runs and riffs are just random indulgent unskilled vocallisations
Her belting range is limited she cannot even belt C5 without struggling anymore. She has no idea how to place her voice and she has no idea how to mix thats why her voice gets thinner and more strained as she ascends a scale.
Her lower range is muffled and she drops her larynx
her head voice is a childish girly scream and her whistle register (if you can call it that) is not infact whistle register it is a weak diconnected unsupported scream/falsetto.
She is nowhere near voice of her generation there are so many singers far more skilled than her. I dont even consider her emotional connection to be good at all because she is far to focused on trying to run and trying to hold her voice together that she doesnt really display any emotion
getty
19-10-2011
I'm a big fan of Beyonce, but even I'm getting fed up of her lately, there seems to be a new video and song added to the music channels every week, now that she's having a baby hopefully she'll disappear for a while. Or has she she recorded another 20+ songs and videos to keep us entertained while she's away?:yawn:
shelleyj89
19-10-2011
I have 3 of her albums, but I do think she's over rated. I've never felt the urge to go and see her in concert or anything.

And something really bugged me about the way she announced her pregnancy. What happend to just saying "I'm pregnant!". Rubbing the stomach on the red carpet, then the end of performance? It was all a bit cringy for me. You're not the only person ever to have been pregnant!
Lyricalis
19-10-2011
I think that Beyonce is overrated, it's just what happens nowadays. She's not a bad singer, but she is sometimes on the shrill side for me. She does work very hard though, and you have to admire that sort of dedication. Plus she's hot.
Dan-Bevis
19-10-2011
Originally Posted by Lyricalis:
“I think that Beyonce is overrated, it's just what happens nowadays. She's not a bad singer, but she is sometimes on the shrill side for me. She does work very hard though, and you have to admire that sort of dedication. Plus she's hot.”

Pretty much this [though if I was a ladies man, she isn't actually one I'd like, personally].

I haven't really been able to take what I've heard of her on the radio seriously since 'Put a Ring on It' to be honest though...
digichant
19-10-2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2-Bfpe2TK4
Watch this and tell me Beyonce is overrated..... absolutely perfect. Blows her out of the water.
Ash's Man
19-10-2011
Are people still talking about this? Only in the UK.
da3bool
19-10-2011
Originally Posted by Ash's Man:
“Are people still talking about this? Only in the UK.”

and in another thread you see the same people that said Beyonce is overrated gushing about Britney Spears
gladiator18
19-10-2011
vastly. does she write her songs? not having a go, just wondering if she does cos someone told me she just claims she writes them but actually doesnt, so takes credit for someone else, shameful.
LoveBug.
19-10-2011
Originally Posted by gladiator18:
“vastly. does she write her songs? not having a go, just wondering if she does cos someone told me she just claims she writes them but actually doesnt, so takes credit for someone else, shameful.”

She's still a legend........ xoxo
da3bool
19-10-2011
Originally Posted by gladiator18:
“vastly. does she write her songs? not having a go, just wondering if she does cos someone told me she just claims she writes them but actually doesnt, so takes credit for someone else, shameful.”

There were 2-3 songs that were disputed by haters but people tend to forget she has a 15+ years career.
Ash's Man
19-10-2011
Originally Posted by da3bool:
“and in another thread you see the same people that said Beyonce is overrated gushing about Britney Spears ”

http://media2011.buhfly.com/gifs/okay%20wtf.gif
gladiator18
19-10-2011
Originally Posted by LoveBug.:
“She's still a legend........ xoxo”

legend? ppl use that word so loosely. legend is paul mccartney, mick jagger, not her. she has a good voice and a good arse and thats about it, and those are given to her. she's as good as those off the xfactor
Ash's Man
19-10-2011
Originally Posted by gladiator18:
“legend? ppl use that word so loosely. legend is paul mccartney, mick jagger, not her. she has a good voice and a good arse and thats about it, and those are given to her. she's as good as those off the xfactor”

Paul McCartney would disagree with that statement I think. He was at Beyonce's last show at Roseland Ballroom and went to dinner with her and Jay after. He was also quoted in the press saying the only reason he went on The X Factor was 'if it's good enough for Beyonce, it should be good enough for me'.
MJsDirtyDiana
20-10-2011
In one word... YES!
amandella
21-10-2011
Yes Kelly Rowland ALL the WAY!!!
Shane54
22-10-2011
Do I think she's overrated?
Nah, she's just sh*t.
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