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But it's happened all over again with Android vs. iOS and Apple are making all the same mistakes....
BTW, looks like the legal spats aren't abating... http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/05/te...ion/index.html |
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Apple couldn't offer an iPhone 5 with major hardware upgrade, LTE and the like in a sexy new package as the technology just isn't there in the size they need to squeeze it in a new case.
The functionality of iPhone is still better than all the Smartphones out there. Quote:
Name me one phone that does ALL of this.
okAirPlay :- DNLA. GS2 8 megapixel BACKLIT sensor:- GS2 2.4 aperture lens:- not checked yet. 1080 HD video:- GS2 Great battery time:- GS2 Dual Core:- GS2 300+ ppi screen:- Gimmick but the GS2 has an equally as good screen which no one can yet tell the difference between this and retina. Manufacturer shops in most big cities around the world.:- Most? I dont think so lmao! iTunes remote, Keynote remote. :- i can control my telly from my GS2 using no 3rd party software. Can you? FaceTime which is free to use:- Rubbish. Its only free over wifi. haha! in fact, it only works over wifi. Any other phone has Video calling which can be used anywhere. It flopped just like facetime has. GS2 again. Non network branded over the air updates:- Wtf! Any phone that isnt locked to a network will get this. Apple are last in the queu here for OTA updates. Been going on for years. GS2 once again and also pretty much every other phone. HSPA+ :- GS2 Plus more:- which are? Quote:
It doesn't matter if the case is 18 months old, for me It still the best solution for my situation.
So esscntially your buying an old case with tech inside many other phones already have and has been out for the last 6 months.
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Apple, as with all companies, make mistakes. I don't see how these are necessarily the same ones as before though. Unless you are referring to the idea that they have to license iOS out to other manufacturers in order to survive, which is a questionable strategy IMO.
BTW, looks like the legal spats aren't abating... http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/05/te...ion/index.html Even a brand new low cost iPhone would have gone some way to fighting off Android, but instead they've chosen to keep old models, and have the new one as just as minor spec bump.... Apple failed to act quickly with Windows, and when they finally realised what was going on it was too late. It looks like they've noted the threat of Android already, but imo they aren't making the right moves at all. |
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Apple, as with all companies, make mistakes. I don't see how these are necessarily the same ones as before though. Unless you are referring to the idea that they have to license iOS out to other manufacturers in order to survive, which is a questionable strategy IMO.
BTW, looks like the legal spats aren't abating... http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/05/te...ion/index.html
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I don't understand why people think the iPhone 4S is lacklustre? It's got a dual core processor, a lot of phones still have single core processors.
What did people actually want with the new iPhone? It seems to have everything I would ever need from a phone myself!!! Then again I have a simple standard mobile and an iPod Touch 1G. |
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I don't understand why people think the iPhone 4S is lacklustre? It's got a dual core processor, a lot of phones still have single core processors.
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How have Apple lost it?
Their computers/laptops are excellent. |
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I don't understand why people think the iPhone 4S is lacklustre? It's got a dual core processor, a lot of phones still have single core processors.
What did people actually want with the new iPhone? It seems to have everything I would ever need from a phone myself!!! Then again I have a simple standard mobile and an iPod Touch 1G. It is true that Apple are often behind the spec curve. The iPhone 4S is no different. But to some people that won't matter because they like the design, iOS, the App Store etc. So they'll buy it. It's all about freedom of choice. If you wanted a phone that really blew everything else, spec-wise, out of the water, I don't think you'd plump for an iPhone. But sometimes it's not what's under the bonnet, it's just whether you 'like' the phone or not. I was a little underwhelmed by the iPhone 4S but, as I've said on other threads, an iPhone is likely to be my next phone (it may be I just plump for a 4 now though). Doesn't mean I can't maturely debate the pros and cons of Apple products, though. One of the things a lot of people miss in the smartphone wars is that these new phones, whatever their specs, are generally incredibly high-end pieces of kit. People are walking around with what are, really, mini-computers in their pockets costing hundreds upon hundreds of pounds. Chances are, whichever smartphone you plump for, you are buying a pretty advanced product whose functionality is very good. |
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couldnt agree more,i have an Apple i mac and a macbook laptop,superb pices of kit,as for an i phone!!!! far to expensive for me on a contract,but like many others i do believe Apple have missed a trick for sure by not releasing a new model!!
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I don't understand why people think the iPhone 4S is lacklustre? It's got a dual core processor, a lot of phones still have single core processors.
What did people actually want with the new iPhone? It seems to have everything I would ever need from a phone myself!!! Then again I have a simple standard mobile and an iPod Touch 1G. |
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I think Apple have messed up here, quite a bit. I lot of people are not happy with yesterdays announcement. Some have decided to stay on 4, some have said they will buy android/blackberry. At a time where Apple are losing market share, they need a device that would wow the public. Instead a lot of people watched the 90 odd minute presentation and were left underwhelmed. The die-hards would have been happy with anything.
It took them 15 odd months, and this is what they have come up with? When they were leading the smartphone market it would have been enough. When you losing ground to android, it simply wont do. Smasung/HTC etc are releasing top end phone every few months. Apple are just going to lose more market share. Will then sell loads of unit, yes but not as much they would want. To me it seems like Apple have sort of given up on the iphone market, and concentrating on the tablet market. I think the samsung event next week, will certainly leave people a lot happier than the apple people were yesterday. Is this the start of apple demise....nah not even close. But they arent the force they once were in the smartphone market, and given a couple of years the tablet market will also be lost. I can bet a lot of people last night were left thinking, where is Jobs. |
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I don't understand why people think the iPhone 4S is lacklustre? It's got a dual core processor, a lot of phones still have single core processors.
What did people actually want with the new iPhone? It seems to have everything I would ever need from a phone myself!!! Then again I have a simple standard mobile and an iPod Touch 1G. The leaked shots of the Prime show it having a 720p resolution which is as good as Retina, except that it's on SAMOLED+ and not IPS so it will look better than the Retina Display... Also 1.5GHz dual core and curved glass screen. I think Apple missed a huge opportunity with this launch, and where they could have put a spanner in the works for Android, all they could come up with was a mediocre revision over a year and a half after the iPhone 4 launch... |
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...I can bet a lot of people last night were left thinking, where is Jobs.
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Bottom line?
Apple share price will recover. iPhone 4S will sell by the truck-load. Apple will turn in yet another massive profit next year. iPhone 5 and iPad 3 will release at some point in the next 12 months and again sell by the shit-load. Loads of people will still label the products over-priced trendy tat. I think the fruity logo is going to be around for a while yet. Well, 4 years on with the stock hovering around $400 and destined to go 500+ who is laughing now (me, all the way to the bank). Will not be selling just yet, and by the way my technical opinion is that Apple make first class products, but the real secret of their success is an end to end ecosystem which no other company on the planet can hope to come near - with the possible exception of Amazon. Google are just a amateurish techie mess - yes they appeal to the diehard techies amongst us, but the inevitable fragmentation introduced by having an open system leads to a morass of confusion amongst Joe Public. |
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[quote=edEx;53307031 Unless you are referring to the idea that they have to license iOS out to other manufacturers in order to survive, which is a questionable strategy IMO.
[/QUOTE] When Steve Jobs came back to (failing) Apple in the 90's one of the first things he did was axe the plans to license the Mac OS to OEMs. This was a masterstroke as the secret of their success (whether you like it or not) is their closed walled garden system. As a techie I hate lots of the walled garden stuff, but I cannot deny that it has enormous advantages. |
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over a year and a half after the iPhone 4 launch...
It was launched just under 14 months ago. |
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I may be missing something here but why do people keep saying it's over a year and a half since the iPhone 4 was launched?
It was launched just under 14 months ago. |
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I can bet a lot of people last night were left thinking, where is Jobs. |
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Give or take 2 months...but in any case, it's still an awfully long time to wait just to release a minor incremental update.
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Give or take 2 months...but in any case, it's still an awfully long time to wait just to release a minor incremental update.
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Jobs launched the ipad 2 and people still had a good old moan.
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Wasn't the Japanese Tsunami a contributing factor in the longer time between releases?
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Give or take 2 months...
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Also 1.5GHz dual core and curved glass screen. |
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Considering the iPhone is manufactured by Foxconn who operate in China and Taiwan, and Samsung supply the majority of the parts who are based in Korea, I don't think so no.
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