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Why hasn't Rihanna had a number 1 album in the states?
Yet she's had 10 number one singles on the hot 100. I know she's considered more of a singles artists, but she has had two very commerically successful albums in the UK. Also, Katy Perry sells a high number of singles over there yet has still managed to top the album chart with `Teenage Dream'. Surely her star is big enough now to warrant high level first week sales and a number 1 debut?
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Oohhh and I just noticed her last two albums were not certified muli platinum
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Yet she's had 10 number one singles on the hot 100. I know she's considered more of a singles artists, but she has had two very commerically successful albums in the UK. Also, Katy Perry sells a high number of singles over there yet has still managed to top the album chart with `Teenage Dream'. Surely her star is big enough now to warrant high level first week sales and a number 1 debut?
If u read this you will notice she still may not have a number 1! |
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It's because she's always releasing her albums in the busy weeks to get better sales, so her competition is always stiff.Also, in the US, she's not taken very seriously and I can't disagree with their attitude towards her
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a) Not as many people like the song.
b) Releasing so frequently has prevented hype to build. c) Overexposure is taking it's toll and people just aren't as bothered. d) The US is preoccupied with Moves Like Jagger and Someone Like You at the moment. e) All of the above. |
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For some reason Rihanna hasnt connected as well to the USA as she has here, in the UK her albums sell literally millions, she is extremely popular, maybe its because not as many people in the states like her, she's definitely more of a singles artist there than she is here, saying that her singles chart very highly here also.
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She isn't an American artist so it doesn't matter. There are plenty of non American artists who don't have no.1 US albums let alone 10 no.1 singles like Rihanna but no one gives them a hard time about it or tries to downplay their success. Heck, there are even loads of American artists who have not had no.1 albums and even if they have, they have not sold as much as Rihanna. e.g. Latoya Luckett, Chris Brown, Jill Scott, The Game etc.
That being said I hope Talk That Talk is no.1 if only to shut the haters up although they will probably find some other factor to downplay. |
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She isn't an American artist so it doesn't matter. There are plenty of non American artists who don't have no.1 US albums let alone 10 no.1 singles like Rihanna but no one gives them a hard time about it or tries to downplay their success. Heck, there are even loads of American artists who have not had no.1 albums and even if they have, they have not sold as much as Rihanna. e.g. Latoya Luckett, Chris Brown, Jill Scott, The Game etc.
That being said I hope Talk That Talk is no.1 if only to shut the haters up although they will probably find some other factor to downplay. |
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She isn't an American artist so it doesn't matter. There are plenty of non American artists who don't have no.1 US albums let alone 10 no.1 singles like Rihanna but no one gives them a hard time about it or tries to downplay their success. Heck, there are even loads of American artists who have not had no.1 albums and even if they have, they have not sold as much as Rihanna. e.g. Latoya Luckett, Chris Brown, Jill Scott, The Game etc.
That being said I hope Talk That Talk is no.1 if only to shut the haters up although they will probably find some other factor to downplay.
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Chris has-his recent album went to Number One.
Loud is nearly 5.5 million worldwide with 1.5million in the US. Not bad for a non-American artist from a small Island. |
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I know...but despite that he still hasn't sold as much as Rihanna's Loud in the US or worldwide like the other artists I mentioned. Please re read my post.
Loud is nearly 5.5 million worldwide with 1.5million in the US. Not bad for a non-American artist from a small Island. |
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Loud is nearly 5.5 million worldwide with 1.5million in the US. Not bad for a non-American artist from a small Island.
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Of course that's admirable, but you're talking about her as if she's a relatively new artist on the rise...rather than a massive popstar who's been around for like 6 years, and may as well be American because so many assume she is anyway.
If many presume Rihanna to be American then that is down to their own ignorance. Rihanna is the youth cultural ambassador of Barbados and travels on a diplomatic passport. That plus she still has her heavy Bajan accent. Nothing about her is American other than the fact that she is based in LA although she is hardly ever there. Also part of Rihanna's worldwide appeal (i.e 'Little miss Sunshine', 'Music of the Sun etc) is that she is from Barbados and that sets her apart from the usual Black female singer who is most times from the US who either grew up in Church singing r&b |
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She is 6 years in the game and still relatively new. If many presume Rihanna to be American then that is down to their own ignorance because part of Rihanna's worldwide appeal (i.e 'Little miss Sunshine', 'Music of the Sun etc) is that she is from Barbados and that sets her apart from the usual Black female singer who is most times from the US.
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I know...but despite that he still hasn't sold as much as Rihanna's Loud in the US or worldwide like the other artists I mentioned. Please re read my post.
Loud is nearly 5.5 million worldwide with 1.5million in the US. Not bad for a non-American artist from a small Island. And why does it matter that she's a non-American artist.It would matter if she was a non-promoted or non-signed, but why is her origins mentioned as a flaw in her career??
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Oh please, Rihanna is primarily marketed as a U.S artist. It's generally assumed she's American because she's advertised as a U.S artist.
She is listed as a Bajan artist first and foremost in all reputable news sources or articles. i.e People Magazine, Rolling Stone, Imdb etc http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/7...6-00cb38737a1c Quote:
Robyn Rihanna Fenty (born February 20, 1988), better known as simply Rihanna, is a Barbadian R&B recording artist.
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It's just surpassed 4,5 million ww, don't overexaggerate
And why does it matter that she's a non-American artist.It would matter if she was a non-promoted or non-signed, but why is her origins mentioned as a flaw in her career?? ![]() Quote:
LOUD: When was the last time the woman did any promotion? The last time I recall was on American Idol back in April and since that time she has barely been seen on America TV since. Anyway please tell me where I said her origins were a flaw in her career? 2. Loud - 459.100 - (Week 1) 4. Loud - 335.800 - (Week 2) (-27%) 5. Loud - 258.600 - (Week 3) (-23%) - 1M mark (1.053.500) 2. Loud - 292.000 - (Week 4) (+13%) 4. Loud - 419.000 - (Week 5) (+44%) 1. Loud - 547.100 - (Week 6 - 1 week at No.1-) (+31%) - 2M mark (2.311.600) 1. Loud - 239.000 - (Week 7 - 2 weeks at No.1-) (-56%) 1. Loud - 182.200 - (Week 8 - 3 weeks at No.1-) (-24%) 1. Loud - 161.000 - (Week 9 - 4 weeks at No.1-) (-12%) 2. Loud - 152.200 - (Week 10) (-5%) - 3M mark (3.046.000) 3. Loud - 136.400 - (Week 11) (-10%) 3. Loud - 134.800 - (Week 12) (-1%) 3. Loud - 143.600 - (Week 13) (+7%) 5. Loud - 160.600 - (Week 14) (+12%) 5. Loud - 146.300 - (Week 15) (-8%) 6. Loud - 129.000 - (Week 16) (-12%) 9. Loud - 112.300 - (Week 17) (-13%) - 4M mark (4.009.000) 7. Loud - 96.400 - (Week 18) (-14%) 9. Loud - 93.200 - (week 19) (-3%) 9. Loud - 98.000 - (Week 20) (+5%) 6. Loud - 75.400 - (week 21) (-23%) 9. Loud - 72.900 - (Week 22) (-3%) 6. Loud - 82.900 - (Week 23) (+14%) 5. Loud - 77.200 - (Week 24) (-7%) 11. Loud - 63.900 - (Week 25) (-17%) 12. Loud - 63.700 - (Week 26) (=) 8. Loud - 62.200 - (Week 27) (-2%) 9. Loud - 59.500 - (Week 28) (-4%) 13. Loud - 59.600 - (Week 29) (=) 14. Loud - 59.300 - (Week 30) (=) 13. Loud - 62.200 - (Week 31) (+5%) - 5M mark (5.035.400) 17. Loud - 50.900 - (Week 32) (-18%) 14. Loud - 56.100 - (Week 33) (+10%) 11. Loud - 53.500 - (Week 34) (-5%) 16. Loud - 52.700 - (Week 35) (-2%) 11. Loud - 55.500 - (Week 36) (+5%) 13. Loud - 52.100 - (Week 37) (-7%) 12. Loud - 52.500 - (Week 38) (+1%) 17. Loud - 47.900 - (Week 39) (-9%) 12. Loud - 49.900 - (Week 40) (+4%) 11. Loud - 59.300 - (Week 41) (+19%) 16. Loud - 51.300 - (Week 42) (-13%) 18. Loud - 39.900 - (Week 43) (-22%) 23. Loud - 38.900 - (Week 44) (-3%) 25. Loud - 38.600 - (Week 45) (-1%) TOTAL: 5.734.100 copies All I said was that since she was a non American artist it did not matter if she had a no.1 US album or not. The fact remains that she is an international POP star with no.1 albums in countries foreign to hers. Fact also remains that even though some US artists have managed to get the coveted no.1 album spot on the Billboard 200 yet they still have not managed to move as much units in their own country than the little girl from the Islands. |
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She was too small to go there with her first album, and since then it has been constant overexposure. She has great singles success, but people just don't care when she releases an album. She sells on a big single, that's why her album sales are slow but steady.
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Loud is nearly 5.5 million. Where are you getting your figures from.
When was the last time the woman did any promotion? The last time I recall was on American Idol back in April and since that time she has barely been seen on America TV since. Anyway please tell me where I said her origins were a flaw in her career? All I said was that since she was a non American artist it did not matter if she had a no.1 US album or not. The fact remains that she is an international POP star with no.1 albums in countries foreign to hers. Fact also remains that even though some US artists have managed to get the coveted no.1 album spot on the Billboard 200 yet they still have not managed to move as much units in their own country than the little girl from the Islands. The US is the biggest market, so even if she was from a village in Slovakia, she would still have to focus on the US if she was signed by a US label and if she was promoted heavily in the US, like Rihanna.I just really don't get what you're trying to say.She hasn't got a No.1, it's cool, but her nationality has nothing to do with it Anyway...
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OK, with all due respect, I don't get your point.She is the 3rd most promoted woman in the industry.She had insane promotion for her album and the last time that she was on TV was in late May for the Billboard Music Awards, but don't try to make that look like a long time, please.She had promotion throughout her era, so the fact that she hasn't promoted for 5 months is not weird because she's been touring and slowly wrapping up her album campaign.And her new lead single was just released, so they aren't going to promote her yet.And I really can't understand how not being an American act can be an excuse for not having a US No.1 album
The US is the biggest market, so even if she was from a village in Slovakia, she would still have to focus on the US if she was signed by a US label and if she was promoted heavily in the US, like Rihanna.I just really don't get what you're trying to say.She hasn't got a No.1, it's cool, but her nationality has nothing to do with it Anyway...![]() Again Rihanna is not promoted in the US as much as you think. She is hardly on the American late night talks shows. I though heavy promotion consisted of going on a radio tour, making an appearance on the popular TV shows, Itunes banner, Billboard posters...Rihanna hasn't done any of that since May and it doesn't look like she will be doing any promotion before her next album is released next month. She hasn't even promoted this current single but it is already no.1 on Itunes in several countries around the world and top 5 in the US. Kylie Minogue, a non US artist like Rihanna, was one of the biggest POP stars in the world during her hey day and she never had a no.1 US album. Anyway please answer the question what is the big deal about having a US no.1 album? You mention it being the biggest music market however there are loads of US artists who have had no.1 US albums and they have still not sold as much as Rihanna. That being said a US no.1 album means nothing in the long run when you can't even go platinum at the end of the album era. |
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Again Rihanna is not promoted in the US as much as you think. She is hardly on the American late night talks shows. I though heavy promotion consisted of going on a radio tour, making an appearance on the popular TV shows, Itunes banner, Billboard posters...Rihanna hasn't done any of that since May and it doesn't look like she will be doing any promotion before her next album is released next month. She hasn't even promoted this current single but it is already no.1 on Itunes in several countries around the world and top 5 in the US.
Kylie Minogue was one of the biggest POP stars in the world during her hey day and she never had a no.1 US album. Anyway please answer the question what is the big deal about having a US no.1 album? You mention it being the biggest music market however there are loads of US artists who have had no.1 US albums and they have still not sold as much as Rihanna. That being said a US no.1 album means nothing in the long run when you can't even go platinum at the end of the album era.
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Funny how you go from April to May, oh and she had an iTunes banner like two weeks ago
![]() April or May..yeah that is a huge difference in time. The Itunes banner for the US was put up after the song was released and that alone does not constitute the 'heavy promotion' in the US people keep going on about. |
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Again Rihanna is not promoted in the US as much as you think. She is hardly on the American late night talks shows. I though heavy promotion consisted of going on a radio tour, making an appearance on the popular TV shows, Itunes banner, Billboard posters...Rihanna hasn't done any of that since May and it doesn't look like she will be doing any promotion before her next album is released next month. She hasn't even promoted this current single but it is already no.1 on Itunes in several countries around the world and top 5 in the US.
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Kylie Minogue was one of the biggest POP stars in the world during her hey day and she never had a no.1 US album
But Kylie never made it in the US.She wasn't even promoted there and her albums never sold bar 3-4 exceptions.She was never launched as a US act.Rihanna is not the same case.Quote:
Anyway please answer the question what is the big deal about having a US no.1 album? You mention it being the biggest music market however there are loads of US artists who have had no.1 US albums and they have still not sold as much as Rihanna. That being said a US no.1 album means nothing in the long run when you can't even go platinum at the end of the album era.
A No.1 is not that much of a big deal and that's why I don't understand why you're making excuses (with all due respect...)
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1)I don't get the "May" point.But she was touring and her era is over.Name one pop artist that promotes heavily after the 4th single??Most people don't even have a 5th single, let alone promote it.She had all that during the beginning of her era and that's how it goes for everyone.Nobody gets all that promo for a 5th single and again, she was TOURING.
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But Kylie never made it in the US.She wasn't even promoted there and her albums never sold bar 3-4 exceptions.She was never launched as a US act.Rihanna is not the same case.
Kylie's album has gone platinum in the US and she has a top 5 album. Like Rihanna she is also a non US artist.Quote:
A No.1 is not that much of a big deal and that's why I don't understand why you're making excuses (with all due respect...)
With all due respect did you comprehend the title of the thread? In case you didn't, I am responding to the question asked in the title of this thread....as people do on public forums.
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I know she is on tour but I was responding to someone who stated that Rihanna was heavily promoted in the US when that has never been the case.
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Kylie's album has gone platinum in the US and she has a top 5 album. Like Rihanna she is also a non US artist.
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With all due respect did you comprehend the title of the thread? In case you didn't, I am responding to the question asked in the title of this thread....as people do on public forums.
Of course I understood the subject and that's why I gave a very logical answer in my initial post.The thing that I don't get is why you keep making excuses about something that really isn't that much of a big deal, but hey, I'll probably not get it, so each to their own
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And why does it matter that she's a non-American artist.It would matter if she was a non-promoted or non-signed, but why is her origins mentioned as a flaw in her career??