can some one tell me urgently is there any difference to the casing or size or anything that some one would be able to tell you were holding the 4S not the old iPhone 4 ? Like the 3GS had a more shiny logo on the back so you could tell it wasn't a 3G hand set. Also will there be a shortage of stock do you think?

Nope the outside is the *exact* same.

Will you be getting a white or black one Burti?

iPhone 4 casing dimensions: 115.2 x 58.6 x 9.3mm
iPhone 4S casing dimensions: 115.2 x 58.6 x 9.3mm

And there you have it. There is no difference in materials or aesthetics either. Not even one slight change.

Ok I get that but what about the apple logo will that be different like on 3G and 3GS was different? there must be some way you can tell????

neither unless you can tell there different to the iPhone 4

The back is made of glass like the iPhone 4, so the logo is not going to be any different.

The only difference in casing is in the antenna gaps, there is an extra gap on the left side just like the iPhone 4v, which I think means that the cases would have to be different for the 4S as the volume and lock buttons are slightly lower down.

They might say iPhone 4S on the back

Wouldn't the box they come in give the game away? I'm quite happy it looks like a 4. Less likely to get nicked when you're in the pub

4S will talk back, 4 will ignore you Yeah, there lies the problem, how can one show off their new phone if it looks just like the old one.

I for one will be keeping the iPhone 4 and waiting for the iPhone 5

8MP cam - My 5MP is good enough for what I want.
1080p HD - Admit it's nice but I don't record enough for it.
A5 Chip - Possibly the thing I like the most but I still think the iPhone 4 is fast enough for what I want.
Robot talking thing - NO, just NO.

The camera lens might be a bit bigger.

It'll be the same as the 4. So, you will have to get a big label to tell people you have been suckered in instead of trying to let them see something different....

Are you worried that people will laugh at you if they see that you don't have the new one?

Enough to tell do you reckon?

On the contry

There's an extra gap on the left side of the phone and consequently the volume and lock buttons are lower down so you can tell the difference between an iPhone 4 and an iPhone 4S

cool thanks

It will have the "S" next to the 4 in a little box

hahaha another apple sheep. "I don't want a phone for features, I want a phone so people KNOW I have the latest version. If they don't KNOW I have the latest version, what's the point?"

is there a extra line near the ear hole/ line on the 4S

A fool and there money springs to mind....

I only looked at 2 threads on here last night and you said the same thing in both of those. I do hope that you at least copy and paste.

It's a fair question... honestly I couldn't care less, and can't imagine why it's important except for reasons of vanity.

My first iPhone was the 3GS. That to me was the first model that overcame basic useability issues like cut and paste, and - crucially - had a considerably faster processor. It's now the oldest model that is still upgradeable (and has been for a while) so I smugly think I made the right choice.

I haven't decided yet on the 4S, but my general view is that often its incremental advances that are more important than the bigger headlines. What is was more important with the iPhone 4 - a different shape, or the fact that the new shape made reception worse?

The things I was looking for in a new iPhone were better battery life, faster processor, more reliable reception, a better camera and more memory, so perhaps uniquely on these boards I'm happy with the spec offered (though I'm disappointed the camera still can't optically zoom). I bet the voice recognition won't work - they never do - but who cares? Just avoid the gimmicks and use it for what you need it for. All comes down to price with the carriers at this point.

It works the other way around too, you could pretend you have the new one