Does anyone know if I pre-oreder the 4s on the website is it posted out on the 14th Oct. or is it delivered for the 14th?
Thanks

The Apple Store banner says delivery from the 14th, so I would imagine they will start dispatching on the 13th.

They clearly won't be able to dispatch every pre-order on the 13th though, so they'll go out on a first come first served basis, hence the banner saying from the 14th.

Why is it telling you that you choose a plan and carrier when you preorder?

Does that mean if you buy it from Apple you don't have to buy it sim free?

You're looking at the US site. Phones direct from Apple in the UK will be SIM free.

And it clearly says you can pre-order from the 7th October....?

Question answered?

But what time on the 7th? Midnight thursday night like with the iPad 2? or 8am friday morning as per the shop opening times on the 14th... who knows?