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Will.I.Am feat. JLo & Mick Jagger
lucy mane
07-10-2011
http://soundcloud.com/bbjlo/hard
O.Michel
07-10-2011
It's Will.I.Am's "song", so I'll focus on him.It's such a pity to see him wasting the talent he has left like that.He was pretty creative, smooth and interesting, but now he just repeats himself and tries too hard to be innovative, yet it backtracks.I bet that when he finished this track, he thought it was a gem, but it's not.He keeps randomly shouting with autotune and he ruins the few good elements of his beat by overproducing and overcomplicating everything.This song has no construction, it's not coherent and he didn't even give J Lo any shine.It sounds like a poorly thought ummastered instrumental...He should try to edit himself or take an extended break.
lucy mane
07-10-2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBV4...layer_embedded

It is a rough demo. Wait for the finished song. The song is hot.
Eric_Blob
07-10-2011
I think it's great!

Well, it's far from will.i.am's best, but compared to some of the other songs he's made recently, and compared to most of what's in the charts at the moment in general, that song is of a higher quality.

My favourite parts are probably J-Lo's sections, although the instrumental during them sounds quite a lot like Like a G6 (although TO BE FAIR, Like a G6 was a bit of a rip-off of Boom Boom Pow which will.i.am made in the first place ).
lucy mane
08-10-2011
Originally Posted by Eric_Blob:
“I think it's great!

Well, it's far from will.i.am's best, but compared to some of the other songs he's made recently, and compared to most of what's in the charts at the moment in general, that song is of a higher quality.

My favourite parts are probably J-Lo's sections, although the instrumental during them sounds quite a lot like Like a G6 (although TO BE FAIR, Like a G6 was a bit of a rip-off of Boom Boom Pow which will.i.am made in the first place ).”

True! I think most people who listen to music leaks can hear it is not a finished song.
Huge hit next year methinks. Will must have give up on Cheryl lol.
Gaspanic!
08-10-2011
Originally Posted by lucy mane:
“. Will must have give up on Cheryl lol.”

Or not

http://yfrog.com/ny25cdnj

Will seems to think he's the future of music and innovation. Which is ironic because every recent hit he's had sounds like it could have been made decades ago. The Americans don't know any better.
O.Michel
08-10-2011
Originally Posted by Gaspanic!:
“Or not

http://yfrog.com/ny25cdnj

Will seems to think he's the future of music and innovation. Which is ironic because every recent hit he's had sounds like it could have been made decades ago. The Americans don't know any better.”

Well, BEP's last album flopped and the only big radio hit out of it was 'Can't Get Enough' which wasn't overproduced for the most part, so maybe they do know better.Americans can be blamed for many things regarding music, but not for Will.I.Am's current success.Now, which was the country that got 'Dirty Beat' to No.1? (don't get offended )
rianne
08-10-2011
I like will.i.am and the BEP, but now im getting sick of the autotune.

The beginning,is the only album I havent bought because when I previewed every song on the album they all had autotune on.


In terms of this song, its ok until it gets into mick jaggers part. Not micks fault but it just sounds as will.i.am got trigger happy with the editing and electronic sound again.

He needs to go back to the drawing board and stop with this autotune overload crap. Its just lazy producing.
Gaspanic!
08-10-2011
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“Well, BEP's last album flopped and the only big radio hit out of it was 'Can't Get Enough' which wasn't overproduced for the most part, so maybe they do know better.Americans can be blamed for many things regarding music, but not for Will.I.Am's current success.Now, which was the country that got 'Dirty Beat' to No.1? (don't get offended )”

Americans are only now wising up to dance music. Making it as a cheesy as possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJEoNtN7j04

They remind of this 2002 hit.
O.Michel
08-10-2011
Originally Posted by Gaspanic!:
“Americans are only now wising up to dance music. Making it as a cheesy as possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJEoNtN7j04

They remind of this 2002 hit.”

Yeah, I don't like the music that Americans produce either, but they're not responsible for Will.I.Am's success.And also, most of the stuff that Americans release is copied and released in the UK too (which is a disgrace) and most of the chart-toppers are cheap rip-offs of the 2009-2010 American sound.Whilst the Americans can be blamed for many musical crimes, the corny radio songs crisis is not their fault
Eric_Blob
08-10-2011
will.i.am doesn't think he's futuristic. Infact, it's true that a lot of his songs sound old-fashioned. Most of his songs sample songs from the 80's.

HOWEVER, and he's spoken about this in interviews before, most of the songs that he sampled weren't, and couldn't be big mainstream hits when they were released back in the 80's, but they can now.

Boom Boom Pow for example, samples a 1982 song called Planet Rock by Afrika Bambaataa & the Soulsonic Force. That song got to #48 in the US charts when it was released. will.i.am's version of the song (Boom Boom Pow) ended up as the biggest song of 2009 in the US!! Do you get his point? The beat of Boom Boom Pow is dated, it's quite 80's, but in terms of MAINSTREAM music, it's very current. Boom Boom Pow would've never been played on the radio back in 2003, for example.
O.Michel
08-10-2011
Originally Posted by Eric_Blob:
“will.i.am doesn't think he's futuristic. Infact, it's true that a lot of his songs sound old-fashioned.”

Have you watched a lot of his interviews??He DEFINETELY thinks he's special and innovative.It's even reflected in the band's official videos.And I do get the point about sampling and I think it's pretty great that he's doing that, but his songs have started to sound sloppy and I just want him to go back to being simpler and more effective as a producer.
Eric_Blob
08-10-2011
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“Have you watched a lot of his interviews??He DEFINETELY thinks he's special and innovative.It's even reflected in the band's official videos.And I do get the point about sampling and I think it's pretty great that he's doing that, but his songs have started to sound sloppy and I just want him to go back to being simpler and more effective as a producer. ”

I agree that some of his songs are getting a bit sloppy (Don't Stop the Party being the main one), but at the same time, in the past couple of years he's produced the likes of Just Can't Get Enough and OMG, which were very well-received by the public in general, so I do think he's still "got it", even though some of his songs don't reflect that.

I think he thinks he's innovative in the sense of the type of music he makes. Using Boom Boom Pow again, I think when the BEPs were on hiatus, he was looking at the direction mainsteam music was going in, and he saw songs such as Low by Flo Rida being massive smashes, and thought he'd go a step further than that with the Boom Boom Pow beat. I don't think he genuinely thinks he's the first to make a song like that, but I think he thinks he's one of the first to have a song like that be a mainstream hit in such a big way (which he was).

Like there was one interview where he was saying that songs such as Boom Boom Pow would've, in previous years, remained as underground club/hip hop hits, but by 2009, people were ready for music like that to be on day-time mainstream radio.
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