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Old 09-10-2011, 15:33
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He's quite a good dancer, but I don't think he's great. He also doesn't have much of a personality.
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Old 09-10-2011, 22:58
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OMG!

"Boxing Legend Calzaghe Dumps Lover Kristina"

Kristina is amazing and will be better off without him, I wonder if Jason's wife is worried?


http://www.people.co.uk/celebs-tv/ce...2039-22244395/
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Old 09-10-2011, 23:01
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OMG!

"Boxing Legend Calzaghe Dumps Lover Kristina"

Kristina is amazing and will be better off without him, I wonder if Jason's wife is worried?


http://www.people.co.uk/celebs-tv/ce...2039-22244395/
This story is two yrs old and was false back then ,
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Old 10-10-2011, 22:32
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Not sure why but I just can't take to Jason Donovan and never have. There's just something about him I don't like. If he keeps his lead remains to be seen - there's a trail of historic failures of early leaders!

Do you think Jason might be able to win you over as the weeks go by? He has got his work cut out to maintain such a strong start, but he is very disciplined and a very hard worker so he might just pull it off.
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Old 11-10-2011, 14:06
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Do you think Jason might be able to win you over as the weeks go by? He has got his work cut out to maintain such a strong start, but he is very disciplined and a very hard worker so he might just pull it off.
Not sure Terry but I doubt it - he's a bit cheesy. I'm also disappointed that he postponed his entry into SCD so he could take dancing lessons first - I thought the whole point of the show was that they had no real prior dance experience and we were to watch their 'journey' of discovery?

I think someone has already said that there's nothing in the rules to prevent him from doing this but it just doesn't sit right with me.

I agree with you though, he could have set himself up for a bad fall - best to start off rubbish even if you're not!
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Old 11-10-2011, 20:21
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Not sure Terry but I doubt it - he's a bit cheesy. I'm also disappointed that he postponed his entry into SCD so he could take dancing lessons first - I thought the whole point of the show was that they had no real prior dance experience and we were to watch their 'journey' of discovery?

I think someone has already said that there's nothing in the rules to prevent him from doing this but it just doesn't sit right with me.

I agree with you though, he could have set himself up for a bad fall - best to start off rubbish even if you're not!
The pre show dancing lessons issue could have effected peoples view of Jason, as you say theres nothing in the rules to prevent it, but it does go against the spirit of the show. Starting so well is going to give viewers less of a journey to watch and could effect the votes Jason gets.
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Old 11-10-2011, 23:03
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Jason has been coming on ITT for years and I get the feeling that he has done loads of homework before this year. A good start for him, but the public won't vote for him because he's not British.
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Old 12-10-2011, 13:04
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Jason has been coming on ITT for years and I get the feeling that he has done loads of homework before this year. A good start for him, but the public won't vote for him because he's not British.

I find that very hard to believe Jason is very popular in the UK.
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Old 12-10-2011, 13:28
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I thought Donovan would be good. But he was AMAZINGLY good.
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Old 12-10-2011, 20:31
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I thought Donovan would be good. But he was AMAZINGLY good.
It sounds like you will be putting some votes in for Jason.
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Old 13-10-2011, 06:05
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Jason has been coming on ITT for years and I get the feeling that he has done loads of homework before this year. A good start for him, but the public won't vote for him because he's not British.
My own feeling about Jason on SCD is that, given that he has started absolutely brilliantly, the producers will now give the remit to "cut down the tall poppy".

The British love an underdog (see the Russell love) and don't like it if anyone appears to be a) a swot, and appearing too serious about doing well

or b) too good too early.


Those of us who have watched the show since the very beginning know all too well how every pro or celeb is given a "label" - and Jason has been given the "goody goody boring swot" label this year.

The reality is very different - he's a lovely affable guy, decent bloke - but that doesn't pull in viewers. What they want is a bit of competitiveness between fans etc which will keep people arguing and watching. They've succeeded already!

Ricky Whittle was given the same treatment and he too is the loveliest guy.

Is a shame, but is just the show. Jason is absolutely NO DIFFERENT to anyone else who goes on the show - everyone is talking about him having lessons but most of them have before the show - is normal and 90% of them do it, who haven't danced before, That is fact.

So.......he is suffering from the chosen portrayal. The British like someone who is crap, ditsy, bit down on themselves and for whom the dancing is helping them back on their way up :sleep:, sweet and nice and looks like they are not trying TOO hard - but just hard ENOUGH - and definitely not desperate to win. It seems to offend the British psyche whereas the Australians see it as a real positive and a bit wet to be otherwise.

I adore Kristina, but she is not helping his cause this year in the UK by being far too happy about it all and too desperate to win. I love her dearly - but she is very excited this year and she needs to tone it down a bit to help them both.

I'd much rather though see someone like Jason who makes a really good attempt at dancing. Because frankly, if I want to see a complete dork on the dance floor, I can video myself and watch that. Not what I want to see on a Saturday night dance show, thanks all the same! I don't see anything wrong with having lessons before you go on a show like this - is only preparing yourself in the same way you would any new job.

Can't do anything about how he is being portrayed though now - is just how it is!

Only thing that can save him is if he has a total meltdown and then comes back STRONGAH lol. Then he might have a chance to win again!
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Old 13-10-2011, 11:57
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Oh no!!! Fifi's support is bound to scupper his chances!!!!
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Old 14-10-2011, 17:44
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Jason in his coat of many colours, thanks to the Daily Express.

"STRICTLY JASON’S SPLASH OF AMAZING TECHNICOLOR"

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...g-technicolor-
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Old 14-10-2011, 18:02
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My own feeling about Jason on SCD is that, given that he has started absolutely brilliantly, the producers will now give the remit to "cut down the tall poppy".

The British love an underdog (see the Russell love) and don't like it if anyone appears to be a) a swot, and appearing too serious about doing well

or b) too good too early.


Those of us who have watched the show since the very beginning know all too well how every pro or celeb is given a "label" - and Jason has been given the "goody goody boring swot" label this year.

The reality is very different - he's a lovely affable guy, decent bloke - but that doesn't pull in viewers. What they want is a bit of competitiveness between fans etc which will keep people arguing and watching. They've succeeded already!

Ricky Whittle was given the same treatment and he too is the loveliest guy.

Is a shame, but is just the show. Jason is absolutely NO DIFFERENT to anyone else who goes on the show - everyone is talking about him having lessons but most of them have before the show - is normal and 90% of them do it, who haven't danced before, That is fact.

So.......he is suffering from the chosen portrayal. The British like someone who is crap, ditsy, bit down on themselves and for whom the dancing is helping them back on their way up :sleep:, sweet and nice and looks like they are not trying TOO hard - but just hard ENOUGH - and definitely not desperate to win. It seems to offend the British psyche whereas the Australians see it as a real positive and a bit wet to be otherwise.

I adore Kristina, but she is not helping his cause this year in the UK by being far too happy about it all and too desperate to win. I love her dearly - but she is very excited this year and she needs to tone it down a bit to help them both.

I'd much rather though see someone like Jason who makes a really good attempt at dancing. Because frankly, if I want to see a complete dork on the dance floor, I can video myself and watch that. Not what I want to see on a Saturday night dance show, thanks all the same! I don't see anything wrong with having lessons before you go on a show like this - is only preparing yourself in the same way you would any new job.

Can't do anything about how he is being portrayed though now - is just how it is!

Only thing that can save him is if he has a total meltdown and then comes back STRONGAH lol. Then he might have a chance to win again!


I usually agree with a lot of what you say, but you had a lot of sweeping generalisations in that post.

But I'm coming at it from a not liking him perspective. You see him one way, I see him totally differently and it's not because he's good or he's the favourite that I don't like him. There are innumerable reasons why I don't like him, none of which you'll agree with because you do like him so I'll just politely say that I disagree with your post!
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Old 14-10-2011, 19:18
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I usually agree with a lot of what you say, but you had a lot of sweeping generalisations in that post.

But I'm coming at it from a not liking him perspective. You see him one way, I see him totally differently and it's not because he's good or he's the favourite that I don't like him. There are innumerable reasons why I don't like him, none of which you'll agree with because you do like him so I'll just politely say that I disagree with your post!

ah no worries!

where did I make sweeping generalisations tho? I do really like him, but I will be fair if I know something is the case, like him being a far too serious bugger and getting on everyone's nerves including mine when he does it!

Can sympathise about the numerous reasons why you don't like him since there is someone who I feel the same about as you do Jason - so can understand it. I find it really difficult to be fair then!

sorry about the generalisations tho - can we for old time's sake sweep it under the carpet? (must be a lot of properly
nasty stuff under that Generalisation Carpet mustn't there )

S'ok - we can agree to disagree! I was just going to say we're grown ups, but I'd have been lying, 'cos I'm not.

AM an Apprentice Fossil though so probably shouldn't be lusting after ANYBODY!

PS if I've been inconsistent, I wouldn't mind but I hadn't even had a drink! I think I'm better when I have !
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Old 14-10-2011, 19:46
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My own feeling about Jason on SCD is that, given that he has started absolutely brilliantly, the producers will now give the remit to "cut down the tall poppy".

The British love an underdog (see the Russell love) and don't like it if anyone appears to be a) a swot, and appearing too serious about doing well

or b) too good too early.


Those of us who have watched the show since the very beginning know all too well how every pro or celeb is given a "label" - and Jason has been given the "goody goody boring swot" label this year.

The reality is very different - he's a lovely affable guy, decent bloke - but that doesn't pull in viewers. What they want is a bit of competitiveness between fans etc which will keep people arguing and watching. They've succeeded already!

Ricky Whittle was given the same treatment and he too is the loveliest guy.

Is a shame, but is just the show. Jason is absolutely NO DIFFERENT to anyone else who goes on the show - everyone is talking about him having lessons but most of them have before the show - is normal and 90% of them do it, who haven't danced before, That is fact.

So.......he is suffering from the chosen portrayal. The British like someone who is crap, ditsy, bit down on themselves and for whom the dancing is helping them back on their way up :sleep:, sweet and nice and looks like they are not trying TOO hard - but just hard ENOUGH - and definitely not desperate to win. It seems to offend the British psyche whereas the Australians see it as a real positive and a bit wet to be otherwise.
I adore Kristina, but she is not helping his cause this year in the UK by being far too happy about it all and too desperate to win. I love her dearly - but she is very excited this year and she needs to tone it down a bit to help them both.

I'd much rather though see someone like Jason who makes a really good attempt at dancing. Because frankly, if I want to see a complete dork on the dance floor, I can video myself and watch that. Not what I want to see on a Saturday night dance show, thanks all the same! I don't see anything wrong with having lessons before you go on a show like this - is only preparing yourself in the same way you would any new job.

Can't do anything about how he is being portrayed though now - is just how it is!

Only thing that can save him is if he has a total meltdown and then comes back STRONGAH lol. Then he might have a chance to win again!
ah no worries!

where did I make sweeping generalisations tho? I do really like him, but I will be fair if I know something is the case, like him being a far too serious bugger and getting on everyone's nerves including mine when he does it!

Can sympathise about the numerous reasons why you don't like him since there is someone who I feel the same about as you do Jason - so can understand it. I find it really difficult to be fair then!

sorry about the generalisations tho - can we for old time's sake sweep it under the carpet? (must be a lot of properly
nasty stuff under that Generalisation Carpet mustn't there )

S'ok - we can agree to disagree! I was just going to say we're grown ups, but I'd have been lying, 'cos I'm not.

AM an Apprentice Fossil though so probably shouldn't be lusting after ANYBODY!

PS if I've been inconsistent, I wouldn't mind but I hadn't even had a drink! I think I'm better when I have !
I've put them in bold hun and of course, we can agree to disagree.

I don't know why, but I've taken a massive violent dislike to Jason and it's really not about him being good. I adored Kara and she was pretty good from beginning and I don't mind competitive as Austin is still my favourite contestant ever.

I think it's the total lack of humour or self awareness that gets to me with Jason. He has virtually every trait I dislike all wrapped up in one smug, loathesome package. See you started me off!

And it's a little disingenuous to compare Jason's lessons to most other celebs imo. the man dances/sings/acts for a living on the West End stage, he has a significant head start to other celebs such as Robbie who I guess have only danced while drunk as skunks on the dance floor. He didn't need the lessons, it's not about the winning, it's about the taking part and the improving for me and Jace just doesn't seem to understand that.
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Old 14-10-2011, 23:33
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I've put them in bold hun and of course, we can agree to disagree.

I don't know why, but I've taken a massive violent dislike to Jason and it's really not about him being good. I adored Kara and she was pretty good from beginning and I don't mind competitive as Austin is still my favourite contestant ever.

I think it's the total lack of humour or self awareness that gets to me with Jason. He has virtually every trait I dislike all wrapped up in one smug, loathesome package. See you started me off!

And it's a little disingenuous to compare Jason's lessons to most other celebs imo. the man dances/sings/acts for a living on the West End stage, he has a significant head start to other celebs such as Robbie who I guess have only danced while drunk as skunks on the dance floor. He didn't need the lessons, it's not about the winning, it's about the taking part and the improving for me and Jace just doesn't seem to understand that.

I think it's the lack of humour or self awareness that grates a bit with me too.
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Old 15-10-2011, 07:24
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I've put them in bold hun and of course, we can agree to disagree.

I don't know why, but I've taken a massive violent dislike to Jason and it's really not about him being good. I adored Kara and she was pretty good from beginning and I don't mind competitive as Austin is still my favourite contestant ever.
I think it's the total lack of humour or self awareness that gets to me with Jason. He has virtually every trait I dislike all wrapped up in one smug, loathesome package. See you started me off!

And it's a little disingenuous to compare Jason's lessons to most other celebs imo. the man dances/sings/acts for a living on the West End stage, he has a significant head start to other celebs such as Robbie who I guess have only danced while drunk as skunks on the dance floor. He didn't need the lessons, it's not about the winning, it's about the taking part and the improving for me and Jace just doesn't seem to understand that.
Morning hun - oops sorry for starting you off

I can see why you think I was making sweeping generalisations - but what I meant, and said rather badly, was:

I was trying to say (in Jase's defence! ha!) that in general, the Australian way is to want to win - I've lived there for a time and found it to be the way that most people have the mindset that they simply want to win and don't see it as a bad thing to admit it in public. They love to go for it. Generalisation yes, but what I've found to mostly be the case in that country.

The British (and I live in the UK) always seem to be working hard behind the scenes, saying "oh I'm not very good" and then come AHT and whack it - again, generalisation maybe, but I was trying to show how I felt Jason might be perceiving it (same with Natalie) and trying to portray it - I think he's unlikely to see that he's doing anything "wrong" (neither party is, is just different ways) because in his own country, in schools etc that is how you are brought up, for a huge percentage of the Australian population.

And that in the UK, people SEEM to love most of all an underdog, and comes out from a bad starting position and TRIES, rather than the one who does homework and is therefore already good.

Generalisation maybe, yes, but we all make them, and in this case by explaining in this way, I was just trying to highlight the "culture" differences in behaviour.

Kara was far better than Jason - she was/is a beautiful dancer but she was never portraying her hard work in the same public way that Jason is - she was humble in comparison to his shamelessly tireless public showing of what he's doing - because he appears to see it as A Good Thing to do it.

It's even pissing ME off (altho am not British lol) and I LIKE him!

as for the lessons - there have been many contestants who, like Jason, it has been their job/profession in stage/dance/performance industries (Alesha, Kara etc) and although they have the advantage in performance mostly, learning to dance the tens dances is entirely different - so I don't see how it's bad to have lessons. you say he doesn't need to do it - I disagree - it's an entirely different science.

I know for a fact that most do, so that is why I was saying he was no different - it's not disingenous to compare his having lessons with others - by comparing to others I was saying they all can do it if they want.

Of course someone like him or Alesha would be different to someone like lovely Robbie (sorry, crush after all those years at Leicester I spent cursing him and booing him and'all) who isn't an artistic performer in any way. Everyone on the show has a hugely differing range of abilities to each other and that's just the show - lessons are only a small part of it.


Over the years we've had performance artists and wooden footers - same difference - you can have as many lessons as you like - it doesn't make you a good dancer, you have to have natural talent like Chelsee or indeed Jason.

Even Robbie's getting on my nerves though (got one left, who's gonna snap that one? ) by his repeated "oh I'm not very good" spiel! Shut up Robbie, my love, ENOUGH! I don't want to be pissed at you too!


Yes I remember your Austin years - I remember pm'ing you a very rude photo quite some years ago!

Oh btw - come on hun - you can't call him "Jace" if you dislike him lol - you're not warming, are you, by nicknaming him

ooh all this "nerve" activity is making me tired - have just been up playing with my new labrador puppy (damn her for getting up so early!) so I'm off for a Jaffa Cake.

Have a good day hun - loved your post - is great to see someone post in a well argued and entertaining way without being an a***hole or making blind "defend your celeb/pro" statements!
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Old 15-10-2011, 07:32
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I think it's the lack of humour or self awareness that grates a bit with me too.
yep agree ILS - see above!
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Old 15-10-2011, 07:50
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Morning hun - oops sorry for starting you off

I can see why you think I was making sweeping generalisations - but what I meant, and said rather badly, was:

I was trying to say (in Jase's defence! ha!) that in general, the Australian way is to want to win - I've lived there for a time and found it to be the way that most people have the mindset that they simply want to win and don't see it as a bad thing to admit it in public. They love to go for it. Generalisation yes, but what I've found to mostly be the case in that country.

The British (and I live in the UK) always seem to be working hard behind the scenes, saying "oh I'm not very good" and then come AHT and whack it - again, generalisation maybe, but I was trying to show how I felt Jason might be perceiving it (same with Natalie) and trying to portray it - I think he's unlikely to see that he's doing anything "wrong" (neither party is, is just different ways) because in his own country, in schools etc that is how you are brought up, for a huge percentage of the Australian population.

And that in the UK, people SEEM to love most of all an underdog, and comes out from a bad starting position and TRIES, rather than the one who does homework and is therefore already good.

Generalisation maybe, yes, but we all make them, and in this case by explaining in this way, I was just trying to highlight the "culture" differences in behaviour.

Kara was far better than Jason - she was/is a beautiful dancer but she was never portraying her hard work in the same public way that Jason is - she was humble in comparison to his shamelessly tireless public showing of what he's doing - because he appears to see it as A Good Thing to do it.

It's even pissing ME off (altho am not British lol) and I LIKE him!

as for the lessons - there have been many contestants who, like Jason, it has been their job/profession in stage/dance/performance industries (Alesha, Kara etc) and although they have the advantage in performance mostly, learning to dance the tens dances is entirely different - so I don't see how it's bad to have lessons. you say he doesn't need to do it - I disagree - it's an entirely different science.

I know for a fact that most do, so that is why I was saying he was no different - it's not disingenous to compare his having lessons with others - by comparing to others I was saying they all can do it if they want.

Of course someone like him or Alesha would be different to someone like lovely Robbie (sorry, crush after all those years at Leicester I spent cursing him and booing him and'all) who isn't an artistic performer in any way. Everyone on the show has a hugely differing range of abilities to each other and that's just the show - lessons are only a small part of it.


Over the years we've had performance artists and wooden footers - same difference - you can have as many lessons as you like - it doesn't make you a good dancer, you have to have natural talent like Chelsee or indeed Jason.

Even Robbie's getting on my nerves though (got one left, who's gonna snap that one? ) by his repeated "oh I'm not very good" spiel! Shut up Robbie, my love, ENOUGH! I don't want to be pissed at you too!


Yes I remember your Austin years - I remember pm'ing you a very rude photo quite some years ago!

Oh btw - come on hun - you can't call him "Jace" if you dislike him lol - you're not warming, are you, by nicknaming him

ooh all this "nerve" activity is making me tired - have just been up playing with my new labrador puppy (damn her for getting up so early!) so I'm off for a Jaffa Cake.

Have a good day hun - loved your post - is great to see someone post in a well argued and entertaining way without being an a***hole or making blind "defend your celeb/pro" statements!

Awwww, labrador sounds cute. I can't sleep cos Wales are playing and I'm too nervous.

I know my dislike of "Greyson" is irrational, but all my likes and dislikes of celebs on Strictly are irrational.

I like Robbie too and couldn't stand him as a footballer and still can't listen to him on Radio 5 when he has his Man Utd goggles on. But I like his evah so 'umble act, the judges destroyed his confidence week 1 and I think it's going to take a while for it to come back, but he's competitive so he should be fine.

I hear what you're saying about the "British Public" and as a generalisation, it is true. But people vote for all sorts of reasons - the fit one, the tryer, the worst for a laugh, the one who's improved the most etc.

Enjoy your "Jace" support, I'll be hunting you down all over the board to disagree!

And sorry for all the "", I hate them, but it's the only way I could show my irony.
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Old 15-10-2011, 08:07
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Although I just can't take to Jason, I would have to say that tangoqueen did a pretty good job of summing up the British attitude. As a Brit, I'm not offended by that summation of us, if anything, it amuses me. I would much rather have our attitude than an attitude of 'it's not enough that I win, you must also fail' - that attitude I detest.

If we are watching a competition, then the playing field should be level. Any other competition would never put someone in who is already streets ahead of everyone else. It's simply not cricket old chap
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Old 15-10-2011, 20:02
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Jason says he's "going to take Kristina somewhere very special" and its looking like all Kristina's dreams could come true with Jason taking her all the way! a Fabulous dance again four nine's and top of the leader board again, its a shame they under marked Jason and Kristina, it should have been four tens!
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Old 19-10-2011, 20:56
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"I was a bit too bendy on Strictly
- says Kristina Rihanoff "

But Jason admits he does fancr Kristina.

"Jason Donovan is your partner this year and says his wife knows he fancies you"


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-Rihanoff.html
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Old 20-10-2011, 19:16
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Although I just can't take to Jason, I would have to say that tangoqueen did a pretty good job of summing up the British attitude. As a Brit, I'm not offended by that summation of us, if anything, it amuses me. I would much rather have our attitude than an attitude of 'it's not enough that I win, you must also fail' - that attitude I detest.

If we are watching a competition, then the playing field should be level. Any other competition would never put someone in who is already streets ahead of everyone else. It's simply not cricket old chap
Thats true, but as Jason just said on ITT just now he doesn't look at it as "a competition of scores"

Jason also said.

"This is an Entertainment Show"

How right you are Jason, keep on Entertaining us all, thank you.

"Kristina is a Wonderful choreographer"

Right again Jason, Kristina certainly is Wonderful in every respect.
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Old 20-10-2011, 19:43
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Strange how a couple lose points for an "ileggal" lift whilst Jason gets away with a disco section in the Tango

For me equality in the "crimes"
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