Originally Posted by
Alli-F:
“I've put them in bold hun and of course, we can agree to disagree.
I don't know why, but I've taken a massive violent dislike to Jason and it's really not about him being good. I adored Kara and she was pretty good from beginning and I don't mind competitive as Austin is still my favourite contestant ever.
I think it's the total lack of humour or self awareness that gets to me with Jason. He has virtually every trait I dislike all wrapped up in one smug, loathesome package. See you started me off! 

And it's a little disingenuous to compare Jason's lessons to most other celebs imo. the man dances/sings/acts for a living on the West End stage, he has a significant head start to other celebs such as Robbie who I guess have only danced while drunk as skunks on the dance floor. He didn't need the lessons, it's not about the winning, it's about the taking part and the improving for me and Jace just doesn't seem to understand that.”
Morning hun - oops sorry for starting you off
I can see why you think I was making sweeping generalisations - but what I meant, and said rather badly, was:
I was trying to say (in Jase's defence! ha!) that in general, the Australian way is to want to win - I've lived there for a time and found it to be the way that most people have the mindset that they simply want to win and don't see it as a bad thing to admit it in public. They love to go for it. Generalisation yes, but what I've found to mostly be the case in that country.
The British (and I live in the UK) always seem to be working hard behind the scenes, saying "oh I'm not very good" and then come AHT and whack it - again, generalisation maybe, but I was trying to show how I felt Jason might be perceiving it (same with Natalie) and trying to portray it - I think he's unlikely to see that he's doing anything "wrong" (neither party is, is just different ways) because in his own country, in schools etc that is how you are brought up, for a huge percentage of the Australian population.
And that in the UK, people SEEM to love most of all an underdog, and comes out from a bad starting position and TRIES, rather than the one who does homework and is therefore already good.
Generalisation maybe, yes, but we all make them, and in this case by explaining in this way, I was just trying to highlight the "culture" differences in behaviour.
Kara was far better than Jason - she was/is a beautiful dancer but she was never portraying her hard work in the same public way that Jason is - she was humble in comparison to his shamelessly tireless public showing of what he's doing - because he appears to see it as A Good Thing to do it.
It's even pissing ME off (altho am not British lol) and I LIKE him!
as for the lessons - there have been many contestants who, like Jason, it has been their job/profession in stage/dance/performance industries (Alesha, Kara etc) and although they have the advantage in performance mostly, learning to dance the tens dances is entirely different - so I don't see how it's bad to have lessons. you say he doesn't need to do it - I disagree - it's an entirely different science.
I know for a fact that most do, so that is why I was saying he was no different - it's not disingenous to compare his having lessons with others - by comparing to others I was saying they all can do it if they want.
Of course someone like him or Alesha would be different to someone like lovely Robbie (sorry, crush

after all those years at Leicester I spent cursing him and booing him and'all) who isn't an artistic performer in any way. Everyone on the show has a hugely differing range of abilities to each other and that's just the show - lessons are only a small part of it.
Over the years we've had performance artists and wooden footers - same difference - you can have as many lessons as you like - it doesn't make you a good dancer, you have to have natural talent like Chelsee or indeed Jason.
Even Robbie's getting on my nerves though (got one left, who's gonna snap that one? ) by his repeated "oh I'm not very good" spiel! Shut up Robbie, my love, ENOUGH! I don't want to be pissed at you too!
Yes I remember your Austin years - I remember pm'ing you a very rude photo quite some years ago!

Oh btw - come on hun - you can't call him "Jace" if you dislike him lol - you're not warming, are you, by nicknaming him

ooh all this "nerve" activity is making me tired - have just been up playing with my new labrador puppy (damn her for getting up so early!) so I'm off for a Jaffa Cake.
Have a good day hun - loved your post - is great to see someone post in a well argued and entertaining way without being an a***hole or making blind "defend your celeb/pro" statements!