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Was Nancy drunk?
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mrsdaisychain
09-10-2011
If I were the producers of SCD, I would ask for the fee back. She is not putting the hours of training required to go on a show, she is a disgrace. I feel so sorry for Anton too.
Yes, I think she was drunk. Odious woman.
*stargazer*
09-10-2011
Do not click on the spoilers in this thread if you don't want to know the result of the elimination. I think people should only post results spoilers in the special results spoiler thread.
lynxmale
09-10-2011
Nancy is a fruitcake who looks dependent on something, I just haven't figured out what it is yet.
peeve
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by *stargazer*:
“Do not click on the spoilers in this thread if you don't want to know the result of the elimination. I think people should only post results spoilers in the special results spoiler thread. ”

I know a lot of people do NOT want to know the results prior to the show tonight, and it's always a bit of minefield on DS on a Sunday, but if people have the self-discipline to avoid the spoiler threads, surely they have sufficient self-discipline not to click on a spoiler remark to see what has been written in other threads?
*stargazer*
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by peeve:
“I know a lot of people do NOT want to know the results prior to the show tonight, and it's always a bit of minefield on DS on a Sunday, but if people have the self-discipline to avoid the spoiler threads, surely they have sufficient self-discipline not to click on a spoiler remark to see what has been written in other threads?”

I think the problem is that increasingly on this forum people use spoilers for little asides not genuine spoilers, so some people who are new to the forum are lulled into a false sense of security. I was just pointing that out for the benefit of new posters, which seems fair enough to me.

I actually don't feel that spoilers should be posted outside the official spoiler thread on a Saturday night/Sunday for the reasons outlined above.
Katenutzs
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by Aleksis:
“You don't get a free pass to humiliate drunks (and support people who humiliate drunks) just because you had bad experiences with one in the past.

If Anton was made so anxious around her that he couldn't function, fine, but the way that comment was phrased was more like he should dump her on principle, or to make a statement.”

I hate bullies
nyannie
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by welshwaltzer:
“I agree I think something might happen by next week.
It might be in the BBCs interest to cover it up too not to
admit they took on a wrong one.
That's assuming she WAS drunk.”

I don't know if she was drunk or not, but she definitely was odd. I thought Anton was strangely very uninterested in everything. I would think Nancy will be voted off tonight. She hasn't much of a fanbase and I really wonder why she agreed to go onthe show.
Abbasolutely 40
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by *stargazer*:
“I think the problem is that increasingly on this forum people use spoilers for little asides not genuine spoilers, so some people who are new to the forum are lulled into a false sense of security. I was just pointing that out for the benefit of new posters, which seems fair enough to me.

I actually don't feel that spoilers should be posted outside the official spoiler thread on a Saturday night/Sunday for the reasons outlined above.”

The Downton Abbey thread is almost un readable now with spoiler tags for every little specualtion and guessing and people answering a speculative post with a spoiler etc etc .
Its impossible to know if they are spoilers or simply people chatting about what may happen in series 3 .
perdiedumpling
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by *stargazer*:
“Do not click on the spoilers in this thread if you don't want to know the result of the elimination. I think people should only post results spoilers in the special results spoiler thread. ”

If you are referring to me, all my post says is that there is a spoiler in the post above mine. I was working on the assumption that those who do not want to know spoilers will not click on a spoiler, so was alerting soulmate that they had let slip a result. I put it in a spoiler because I didn't want those who did not know/want to know the result to look back at his post and see the result.
PinkyPig
09-10-2011
Er, back on topic, I have been assuming she was justa rubbish dancer and struggling with the the language when she speaks. Now you've mentioned it, her being drunk would explain it perfectly.
ewoodie
09-10-2011
IF Nancy is drunk and IF Anton knows he should take the matter up with the BBC.
winenroses
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by Abbasolutely 40:
“The Downton Abbey thread is almost un readable now with spoiler tags for every little specualtion and guessing and people answering a speculative post with a spoiler etc etc .
Its impossible to know if they are spoilers or simply people chatting about what may happen in series 3 .”

Yes, it's spoiling it in more ways than one on there.

Spoiler addiction!
dorydaryl
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by fondantfancy:
“Who's being righteous?

My childhood was hell and so was Anton's.

Drunks actually make me anxious.”

FWIW, I don't think you're being righteous, especially given your experience.
PinkyPig
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“IF Nancy is drunk and IF Anton knows he should take the matter up with the BBC.”

Good point!
fiffy35
09-10-2011
Good afternoon everyone.

Well, the speculation regarding Nancy's performance - or lack of it - continues.

Is it booze or is it tablets or is it just her?

Nancy has had a successful career as a lawyer in the past and she could never have managed it in the condition she has appeared to be in on the show.

Are we seeing the sad demise of an apparently previously successful woman who is needing to prop herself up but just not managing it very well and has got herself into the public eye with tragic consequences????

Somehow, I think that Nancy is unable to see herself and is in denial that there is anything going wrong - like in the first weeks' dance - Anton, what are you doing? Anton was trying to get on with the dance, having removed the boa. Nancy couldn't comprehend it.

I am also of the opinion that she thinks that it is Anton who is causing the problems and not understanding her or falling for her "charms" ( VT footage - "kiss me, kiss me).

IMHO, I think Anton is working pretty hard NOT to say what he thinks this time (especially after the Laila comment that almost cost him his job). He is showing that he has real patience. He included some "solo" moves, playing to Nancy's strenght this week , having her start off between Len & Craig so that she can entice them with a wiggle and then get up onto the table. That was the good bit and it went "bums out" and frantic from there with some man handling along the way.

All of this is very sad - it's not good TV. It's not what we expect to see on TV on a saturday night.
ewoodie
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by PinkyPig:
“Good point!”

Quite.

Anton has recourse if Nancy is on the sauce. Since the BBC closed their forum, they spy here and select comments they like for Zoe on ITT. So they will surely pick up on this speculation about Nancy and look into the matter.

If there's any truth in the rumours, we'll never know. The BBC spin machine will take care of that.
DavidJames
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by fiffy35:
“Nancy has had a successful career as a lawyer in the past”

Has she? Really? I mean, she worked for a law firm for a couple of years in the early 1980s, it's not like she's Michael Mansfield...
Originally Posted by fiffy35:
“ and she could never have managed it in the condition she has appeared to be in on the show.”

Well, again, that was 30 years ago.

Originally Posted by fiffy35:
“All of this is very sad - it's not good TV. It's not what we expect to see on TV on a saturday night.”

I agree with all your points, but let's face it, it's fantastic TV.
DavidJames
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Quite.

Anton has recourse if Nancy is on the sauce. Since the BBC closed their forum, they spy here and select comments they like for Zoe on ITT. So they will surely pick up on this speculation about Nancy and look into the matter.

If there's any truth in the rumours, we'll never know. The BBC spin machine will take care of that.”

Terry, you need to log out and back in again.
Nosaer
09-10-2011
I'm not convinced that she is drunk. It's clear Anton doesn't like her and to me he appears to humiliate her. Other dancers (Artem being a good example) step into the background and allow partner's to shine, Anton appears to do the opposite. Perhaps his presenting jobs elsewhere have made him forget his role here.
peeve
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by Nosaer:
“I'm not convinced that she is drunk. It's clear Anton doesn't like her and to me he appears to humiliate her. Other dancers (Artem being a good example) step into the background and allow partner's to shine, Anton appears to do the opposite. Perhaps his presenting jobs elsewhere have made him forget his role here.”

Anton is probably my least favourite pro dancer, but even I feel sorry for him being landed with the nightmare that is Nancy. God knows if she's drunk, drugged or simply bonkers - whatever it is, nobody could think she's, well, normal.
Starpuss
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by Nosaer:
“I'm not convinced that she is drunk. It's clear Anton doesn't like her and to me he appears to humiliate her. Other dancers (Artem being a good example) step into the background and allow partner's to shine, Anton appears to do the opposite. Perhaps his presenting jobs elsewhere have made him forget his role here.”

It is obvious he doesn't like her but I don't blame him. She doesn't seem very likable. I don't agree that he is humiliating her though, she is doing such a good job of humiliating herself that any efforts by Anton have passed me by
cassieconvinced
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by Nosaer:
“I'm not convinced that she is drunk. It's clear Anton doesn't like her and to me he appears to humiliate her. Other dancers (Artem being a good example) step into the background and allow partner's to shine, Anton appears to do the opposite. Perhaps his presenting jobs elsewhere have made him forget his role here.”

That's probably also because he (artem as in your example) has had partners he could safely let shine. Anton has unfortunately had quite a bit of experience having to gloss over the many faults of his various partners to make the dance look half-decent. Yes, he did some "showy" moves that did nothing to highlight his partners capabilities but since she was staggering around the floor anyway there wasn't anything to highlight.
delly
09-10-2011
It never once occured to me that she was drunk. Language problems maybe. A little p'd off maybe. Haughty maybe. A character maybe? Sending herself up maybe? I just dont know. I enjoyed the dance and loved it when Alesha asked if it was played for comedy. I thought it was but I just dont know. I love characters and Nancy might prove to be one.

I loathe spoilers and dont look at them. I have enough trouble keeping up with what I have seen and read let alone with what I have not.
Lady Minuette
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by delly:
“It never once occured to me that she was drunk. Language problems maybe. A little p'd off maybe. Haughty maybe. A character maybe? Sending herself up maybe? I just dont know. I enjoyed the dance and loved it when Alesha asked if it was played for comedy. I thought it was but I just dont know. I love characters and Nancy might prove to be one.

I loathe spoilers and dont look at them. I have enough trouble keeping up with what I have seen and read let alone with what I have not.”

I'm not sure why everyone seems to think Nancy has a language problem as she was born and raised in USA from Italian parents so her first language is English. I think she puts on the Italian accent and likes to act the part of "Italian siren". Poor Anton has to try to get her to put on a show and she is clearly just not in the same sphere as everyone else. I thought it very pointed the way Bruno referred to the champagne intake - there is obviously a sauce problem
Starpuss
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by Lady Minuette:
“I'm not sure why everyone seems to think Nancy has a language problem as she was born and raised in USA from Italian parents so her first language is English. I think she puts on the Italian accent and likes to act the part of "Italian siren". Poor Anton has to try to get her to put on a show and she is clearly just not in the same sphere as everyone else. I thought it very pointed the way Bruno referred to the champagne intake - there is obviously a sauce problem”

Indeed. My husband is foreign and has lived here 3 years and has less of an accent than Nancy who was born in the US and has lived all over the world.
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