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Very interesting article about Stella's experience after winning The Apprentice.
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conchie
08-10-2011
Related content from Digital Spy:

'Apprentice' winner Stella English fired by Alan Sugar


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...st-months.html


Not quite what it seems when the cameras stop rolling !!
Tulareyn
09-10-2011
Yep, just read this. Is a very one-perspective article and with that in mind I wont make any decisive opinion, but if true it must have been a horrible experience for her.
Inspiration
09-10-2011
The comment from Sugar and his company is interesting tho, suggesting she wasn't what she claimed to be and had a lot to learn.

I think that's probably why The Apprentice changed it's format to running a company rather than being an 'apprentice'. I suspect Sugar got tired of having to find jobs for these people in his companies.
The Rhydler
09-10-2011
I believe every single word of this article
dome
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“I believe every single word of this article”

Same here.

I've never understood why anyone would want to work for him.
Good luck Stella you were too good for the 'spiv'.
Scott_P
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by dome:
“Same here.

I've never understood why anyone would want to work for him.
Good luck Stella you were too good for the 'spiv'.”

Aye, I can't imagine a worse boss than the beligerent wide boy type to be honest.
JigglyBall
09-10-2011
Alan Sugar made his millions in the 80s and since then has invested wisely and learned to look for niche markets he can continue to make money in.

In saying that he's hardly Donald Trump - look what he did to Amstrad. A shadow of its former self and sold off before it became completely worthless.

The Apprentice was only credible in the first and perhaps even second series. Once it was moved to BBC1 it became a typical run-of-the-mill reality programme dressed up as something more sophisticated.

Stella should have known better she is supposedly no fool. And really they should've switched it up and replaced Lawd Sirralan Sugar about 5 series' ago. He may be rich but is not the powerful, successful businessman the show portrays.
Scott_P
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by JigglyBall:
“Alan Sugar made his millions in the 80s and since then has invested wisely and learned to look for niche markets he can continue to make money in.

In saying that he's hardly Donald Trump - look what he did to Amstrad. A shadow of its former self and sold off before it became completely worthless.

The Apprentice was only credible in the first and perhaps even second series. Once it was moved to BBC1 it became a typical run-of-the-mill reality programme dressed up as something more sophisticated.

Stella should have known better she is supposedly no fool. And really they should've switched it up and replaced Lawd Sirralan Sugar about 5 series' ago. He may be rich but is not the powerful, successful businessman the show portrays.”

I've always thought that, he isn't exactly a massive figure in business anymore...I've thought for a couple of years that Peter Jones would be a good replacement tbh :P
Crazyeyeskiller
09-10-2011
I read the Dig Spy article on this story and have to say it was the most confusing thing I had ever read!! Who writes for DS?? Kids?

Makes more sense now having read the DM article. Is this because DS doesn't actually have any proper journalists working for them and they simply "lift" stories from other outlets and then have to change them to make it look like they have not just copied? It does seem to happen a lot.
Crazyeyeskiller
09-10-2011
Originally Posted by Scott_P:
“I've always thought that, he isn't exactly a massive figure in business anymore...I've thought for a couple of years that Peter Jones would be a good replacement tbh :P”

They tried something like that on ITV with a programme called Tycoon - don't think it went very well, maybe he could do the Apprentice but tbh most people realise the show is more about the comedy these days. All the tasks are edited for comedy value rather than business skills and the boardroom is just a one liner factory these days.
Crazyeyeskiller
09-10-2011
This is no doubt why prize has been changed to a £250,000 investment in a start-up company.....but this does appear to me to make The Apprentice like a 12 week version of one deal in Dragons Den???

They need to sort this programme out.
LadyCake
09-10-2011
I'm disappointed with "The Apprentice" and Sugar's treatment of Stella.
It wasn't nice mentioning her husband and he came across as horrible in the Mail article. Some changes are needed
thenetworkbabe
11-10-2011
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ish-fired.html

More.....or rather the same...

Looks like liz Locke was lucky....
ausfun
12-10-2011
Well actually I already told you guys about this back in May but many of you didnt want to believe me. Oh you were so willing to stick the knife into me when Alan Sugar tweeted that everything was fine between him and Stella which he was forced to do after a sunday news reported picked up on this post I made and put the allegation to him.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1481426

I doubt I'll get an apology from those of you who dismissed my post. Just saying.

However because Im not one to be bitter and twisted about being doubted, I can actually tell you additional stuff about this story.

Stella was also P'd off because a glossy mag wanted to do a spread about her and her partner and Lord Sugar refused saying that she was there to do a serious job not being a minor celebrity, so she missed out on the money that would have delivered for her.

But I guess you'll doubt that statement as well now
pulltheotherone
12-10-2011
Originally Posted by ausfun:
“
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1481426
”

I did post on this thread that I felt the new job given to Stella at Youview was to stop any bad publicity for The Apprentice.
ausfun
12-10-2011
Originally Posted by pulltheotherone:
“I did post on this thread that I felt the new job given to Stella at Youview was to stop any bad publicity for The Apprentice.”

That's true. But it also shows that Alan sugar lied when he tweeter there was no problem with Stella.
Sweet FA
18-10-2011
Originally Posted by ausfun:
“Well actually I already told you guys about this back in May but many of you didnt want to believe me. Oh you were so willing to stick the knife into me when Alan Sugar tweeted that everything was fine between him and Stella which he was forced to do after a sunday news reported picked up on this post I made and put the allegation to him.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1481426

I doubt I'll get an apology from those of you who dismissed my post. Just saying.

However because Im not one to be bitter and twisted about being doubted, I can actually tell you additional stuff about this story.

Stella was also P'd off because a glossy mag wanted to do a spread about her and her partner and Lord Sugar refused saying that she was there to do a serious job not being a minor celebrity, so she missed out on the money that would have delivered for her.

But I guess you'll doubt that statement as well now ”

I posted on that thread and was one of the few who believed you despite your obvious trolling elsewhere.

Stella was a terrible winner anyway so they deserve each other tbh...
barbar
24-10-2011
She was earning already £85,000 does that bit extra make all the difference. Anyway I am sure at her old job she would be earning it by now. So what happens if one quits in the middle does she at least get paid then. And why should she be so short of money. Something doesnt add up.
It is hard being 'pushed' into a company. So he was junior to her and earning less but he had been there and knew the business. Why should he listen to the new boy (or girl). Its not run like a bank at all, which she was used to. You have to 'beg' clients to take your products. Why did she think that LS had nothing better to do than to 'train' her. LS has made mistakes in the past with taking the wrong people and this was bound to happen since she has no business experience. He most likely thought that since he had no real job, better give 'it' to someone who wont know the difference since she had never been in one. Well he managed to hold out long enough since now her story wont make headlines.
thenetworkbabe
24-10-2011
Originally Posted by barbar:
“She was earning already £85,000 does that bit extra make all the difference. Anyway I am sure at her old job she would be earning it by now. So what happens if one quits in the middle does she at least get paid then. And why should she be so short of money. Something doesnt add up.
It is hard being 'pushed' into a company. So he was junior to her and earning less but he had been there and knew the business. Why should he listen to the new boy (or girl). Its not run like a bank at all, which she was used to. You have to 'beg' clients to take your products. Why did she think that LS had nothing better to do than to 'train' her. LS has made mistakes in the past with taking the wrong people and this was bound to happen since she has no business experience. He most likely thought that since he had no real job, better give 'it' to someone who wont know the difference since she had never been in one. Well he managed to hold out long enough since now her story wont make headlines.”

In the past he's fitted winners to jobs by past experience and even accent. That series he seemingly had no job.He may even as a result have gone for the one who he thought would be most grateful. His answer now is to go for the business idea - but, as we saw last series, that means the winner will be the one with the best idea or the history of ideas and products he likes most - regardless of how abysmal they are on the show. He's got a real problem without a decent job to offer.
ausfun
24-10-2011
Actually I can add even further details and confirm that the job Stella ended up with was being done by the previous person on £35,000 a year. Thats why she was quite upset as well. She may have been getting the big dosh, but obviously doing a fairly lowly role.
Sweet FA
25-10-2011
Originally Posted by ausfun:
“Actually I can add even further details and confirm that the job Stella ended up with was being done by the previous person on £35,000 a year. Thats why she was quite upset as well. She may have been getting the big dosh, but obviously doing a fairly lowly role.”

That's about her value, tbf - there's no way on earth she's worth any more than that...
MrsWatermelon
25-10-2011
She moaned constantly and quit the company, did she really think they'd give her a second year?

Surely an astute person would look into this in a bit more depth before leaving an £85,000/year job. If you really think you'll be working directly under LS and getting his tutelage you're not worth £100k.
DavetheScot
26-10-2011
Originally Posted by MrsWatermelon:
“She moaned constantly and quit the company, did she really think they'd give her a second year?

Surely an astute person would look into this in a bit more depth before leaving an £85,000/year job. If you really think you'll be working directly under LS and getting his tutelage you're not worth £100k.”

But apparently previous winners, including Yasmina and Lee, had worked much more closely with Lord Sugar. She couldn't reasonably have known it would be different for her. I think she got treated pretty shabbily tbh.

"Moaning" is an easy criticism. Should she have simply accepted her lot?
artensoll
26-10-2011
Originally Posted by ausfun:
“Actually I can add even further details and confirm that the job Stella ended up with was being done by the previous person on £35,000 a year. Thats why she was quite upset as well. She may have been getting the big dosh, but obviously doing a fairly lowly role.”

That would explain why other staff treated her the way they did if she was getting paid 100k for a job worth 35k. It must have caused some resentment.
spannerandpony
26-10-2011
I'm not without sympathy for Stella, but surely anyone intelligent, considering whether or not to resign from an £85k per year job, would do their research first?

If I had a good, stable job paying £85k, plus a husband and children, there's no way I would jack it all in and risk having to uproot my whole family to leap into the unknown, just to enter a reality TV show. It's a bit like entering the X Factor and then complaining about being in the public eye.

For the candidates entering series 1 or 2 you can understand it, but several years in, most people know that these programmes are not what they seem.
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