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The Matt Cardle Appreciation Thread (Part 37)
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1lennonlove
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by mitacond:
“I wondered why they let him but then I got to thinking that perhaps Columbia had something to do with it they know he is a winner. ”

I hope he doesn't have to go on X Factor again. Didn't Joe go on twice but second time he was not singing? Matt has done X Factor now. Time to move on. Nice review of Sparks on Amazon.
BrokenBromance
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by 1lennonlove:
“I hope he doesn't have to go on X Factor again. Didn't Joe go on twice but second time he was not singing? Matt has done X Factor now. Time to move on. Nice review of Sparks on Amazon.”

I think he'd be a fool to turn it down if he's offered a spot in Dec to promote Starlight.
1lennonlove
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by BrokenBromance:
“Does the physical copy of RFYL hit the shops today.”

It must be today. I was in HMV yesterday and it was no where to be found. I still haven't got mine from Amazon yet.
moomin123
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by 1lennonlove:
“It must be today. I was in HMV yesterday and it was no where to be found. I still haven't got mine from Amazon yet.”

Yes it is ...

http://yfrog.com/h8evuzcj
BrokenBromance
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by 1lennonlove:
“It must be today. I was in HMV yesterday and it was no where to be found. I still haven't got mine from Amazon yet.”

That's a shame it hasn't arrived yet!! I would have to travel to the next town to know if it's hit the shops yet. My supermarket stocks albums and occasional singles, I got WWC there, but I doubt that they will stock RFYL.
1lennonlove
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by BrokenBromance:
“I think he'd be a fool to turn it down if he's offered a spot in Dec to promote Starlight.”

But only if he's singing it

I guess I was really uncomfortable when Joe appeared for the second time on X Factor after his single had (apparently) bombed. Felt sorry for him and arkward about what he was saying about the album etc. Put a taint on his appearance. Would hate that for Matt.
BrokenBromance
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by moomin123:
“Yes it is ...

http://yfrog.com/h8evuzcj”

Thanks moomin
Cat24
10-10-2011
Just seen this on Twitter:

NielsenMusicUK Nielsen Music UK
Congratulations to @matt_cardle_uk for winning a @NielsenMusicUK Impact Award with "Run For Your Life"

BrokenBromance
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by Cat24:
“Just seen this on Twitter:

NielsenMusicUK Nielsen Music UK
Congratulations to @matt_cardle_uk for winning a @NielsenMusicUK Impact Award with "Run For Your Life"

”

What is that
DenJ
10-10-2011
Afternoon all

Its sad reading that a few posters are either leaving or taking a step back from this thread I know a lot of us spend far too much time here but this is such an important time for Matt and I won't be going anywhere. It is disappointing that RFYL is not doing better but we all know that the songs on the album are superior and the most important thing is that the album sells well. I'm trying not to panic yet and its good to hear that Letters is No.1 on Amazon pre-orders.

Also good to hear that Matt will be on Radio 1 on Thursday and I hope he performs something acoustic from the album. They may not have promoted him well which is frustrating but its all good publicity for him which is what he needs right now.

My copy of RFYL arrived this morning

Off now to have another look at AFN. This is the real Matt we all know and love
BrokenBromance
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by DenJ:
“Afternoon all

Its sad reading that a few posters are either leaving or taking a step back from this thread I know a lot of us spend far too much time here but this is such an important time for Matt and I won't be going anywhere. It is disappointing that RFYL is not doing better but we all know that the songs on the album are superior and the most important thing is that the album sells well. I'm trying not to panic yet and its good to hear that Letters is No.1 on Amazon pre-orders.

Also good to hear that Matt will be on Radio 1 on Thursday and I hope he performs something acoustic from the album. They may not have promoted him well which is frustrating but its all good publicity for him which is what he needs right now.

My copy of RFYL arrived this morning

Off now to have another look at AFN. This is the real Matt we all know and love ”

My sentiments entirely there Den and I will add that itunes isn't the 'be and end all' here...there is a physical copy of this cd available!! I'm holding out to see the first set of midweeks.
Cat24
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by BrokenBromance:
“What is that”

No idea but it sounds good!!
BrokenBromance
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by Cat24:
“No idea but it sounds good!!”

PMSL Thought I was being thick.
Cardoodle
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by BrokenBromance:
“Does the physical copy of RFYL hit the shops today.”

Yeah, mine arrived from Amazon this morning..yippee ..don't know why but I'm starting to really dislike RFYL! but love L&F and Chemical to bits...just think guys this time next week we'll have his amazing album..can't bl...y wait!!
DenJ
10-10-2011
I don't know why but I'm not able to multi quote at the moment and the layout has changed

Anyway, I would only want Matt to make another appearance on X Factor this season if he was going to sing again

Also its so sweet to see Sarah and their friend (I've forgotten his name) posting a picture of the single

I wonder how many physical copies of RFYL are shipped and if it will make a difference to Matt's chart position
mitacond
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by BrokenBromance:
“That's a shame it hasn't arrived yet!! I would have to travel to the next town to know if it's hit the shops yet. My supermarket stocks albums and occasional singles, I got WWC there, but I doubt that they will stock RFYL.”

Its in the shops though I will take a peek see what I can find.
MarellaK
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by BrokenBromance:
“Does the physical copy of RFYL hit the shops today.”

It doesn't look like the single is going to be sold by the big supermarkets so that will impact on physical sales if people have to make a special effort to go to HMV, there will be no 'impulse buying'. I've just been into the Tesco superstore in Watford and no sign of any singles there.

It's disappointing that the sales haven't received a massive boost from the X Factor performance but if lots of Matt's most ardent and loyal fans don't really rate the song then we can't really expect the great British Public to lap it up. And I'm afraid that, on re-watching, Matt did mess up and go out of tune when he forgot his words. The verses in RFYL don't really suit Matt's voice, he sounded a bit weak and strained on some of the notes but I think he did justice to the choruses where his voice soared. I love Matt's voice but he has some vocal weaknesses which he would have been able to conceal better with his own song.

There are a lot of accusations from others that Matt lacks charisma or the 'X Factor', that he is dull and boring, but I can't see that myself. However, the more the media portray him in such a light the more the gullible public will believe it. It's amazing that there was so much printed about Matt last year in all the newspapers and magazines, he was really the focal point of all the media attention and now, there's ......nothing . How quickly the press moves on to the next generation of contestants. I bought yesterday's Independent and I enjoyed reading the interview (mainly) but I believe that paper has a fairly low readership. He somehow needs to re-emerge into the public consciousness.

Never mind. Let's move on and hope for a top 3 album. That will cheer everybody up
joshNOM
10-10-2011
Hello all! New house already! Wow!

Such a shame to see Matt has dropped to #5, the trols have already started being cocky
BrokenBromance
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by MarellaK:
“It doesn't look like the single is going to be sold by the big supermarkets so that will impact on physical sales if people have to make a special effort to go to HMV, there will be no 'impulse buying'. I've just been into the Tesco superstore in Watford and no sign of any singles there.

It's disappointing that the sales haven't received a massive boost from the X Factor performance but if lots of Matt's most ardent and loyal fans don't really rate the song then we can't really expect the great British Public to lap it up. And I'm afraid that, on re-watching, Matt did mess up and go out of tune when he forgot his words. The verses in RFYL don't really suit Matt's voice, he sounded a bit weak and strained on some of the notes but I think he did justice to the choruses where his voice soared. I love Matt's voice but he has some vocal weaknesses which he would have been able to conceal better with his own song.

There are a lot of accusations from others that Matt lacks charisma or the 'X Factor', that he is dull and boring, but I can't see that myself. However, the more the media portray him in such a light the more the gullible public will believe it. It's amazing that there was so much printed about Matt last year in all the newspapers and magazines, he was really the focal point of all the media attention and now, there's ......nothing . How quickly the press moves on to the next generation of contestants. I bought yesterday's Independent and I enjoyed reading the interview (mainly) but I believe that paper has a fairly low readership. He somehow needs to re-emerge into the public consciousness.

Never mind. Let's move on and hope for a top 3 album. That will cheer everybody up ”

I thought that was nerves rather than vocal weaknesses.
mitacond
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by BrokenBromance:
“I thought that was nerves rather than vocal weaknesses.”

Your right there BB there was n o vocal weakness the long note at the end shows that. It was nerves............also if anyone has heard the other song 'All For Nothing' they could never ever claim it to vocal weakness.

I love Matt to sing and quite frankly even if he is a 400 or whereverthe bench mark is for charts I would still listen to him rather than any of the others. To me the charts mean nothing I don't listen to the radio.
mitacond
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by joshNOM:
“Hello all! New house already! Wow!

Such a shame to see Matt has dropped to #5, the trols have already started being cocky ”

Oh thank goodness it did ot go up we would not want them saying its because its GB song would we. LOL
1lennonlove
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by BrokenBromance:
“I thought that was nerves rather than vocal weaknesses.”


Matt has always suffered from nerves and it does make his voice wibbly in places, but when he gets the wind behind him, he's perfect. The only time I think he struggles with volume and control is on the lower notes cause he does sing like a girl and does not cope in that lower register.

My local Sainsbury's has a top thirty singles stand. Surely he will be on that if he is in the top ten? Do other superstores work like this?
spiralthreads
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by mitacond:
“Oh thanks spiralheads if this is so in my case I will cancel the others I have with them and order them from elsewhere. I do nor take kindly to this type of behaviour.”

I was pretty unimpressed I have to say and rather glad I'd ordered the deluxe version from Amazon, although reading the comments here, it sounds like I may have to wait to receive it.

Originally Posted by liz83:
“I know His position doesn't make me sad; reading things people on all sides write about him sometimes does though. He has alot of things dragging him back but alot of things propelling him forward too. And best of all he has a label who'll stick with him and know the value of his work. Thats something the MF haven't or don't want to clock on to, but he really is the luckiest winner yet (save maybe Leona) in that respect.”

Originally Posted by mitacond:
“I know liz thats what makes me know he will be ok they would never have bid for him had they felt he was under par so to speak.Matt is the luckiest winner I agree liz I just want to hug the guy at the moment and comfort him)”

Yes he is Thanks for reminding me just how well he's really doing outside the silly hate threads.

Originally Posted by 1lennonlove:
“Hi Mita, Liz, Cat and all,

That thread on the MF is almost trolling in it's hatred. Some posters (who I have never even seen as Matt fans) are even telling others to give it a rest. It is best to keep away.

I think RFYL has done ok. It is not a brilliant song as we all know but with the exception of those on the MF, most people will percive a top five hit for Matt has pretty good.

I think what happens next is crucial. Joe's album was not a commercial success but more importantly he had no where to go as an artist. What were Syco going to do- write him another album? Matt is different, he has proved himself able to write and record a great album in a short space of time and as we know he already has the makings of the next one.
From a purely business point of view I would invest in someone who has a deep pool of talent. Many more songs on the way.

I won't let the MF decide what is a sign of failure. I won't consider that for at least another three albums. What if Matt had an enormous hit with GB song - not sure it would have done him much good as an artist. Now we can brush the song aside and get down to supporting Matt and his music and his amazing album. I think I would rather Matt have a number 1 album than a single any day.

Of course I would loved Matt to have a number 1, in the same way I wanted him to win X Factor because he's awesome and people need to know this but there is also a part of me that didn't want him to do either. I'm not going to let it worry me.

I would really like Radio 2 to make it album of the week though!

Stay strong and stuff.”

I think this single is being written off far too quickly. We can look at statistics til we're blue in the face but we won't actually know how it's done until the physical sales have been counted. I can understand people wanting his own work to outshine GB's, but am hoping it will hit the top spot, just to silence the critics. His own could then do the same, but stay there for three times as long. Letters would be a fabulous album of the week and would win him a new army of fans.

Re Joe, I totally agree with you. Joe's a singer, Matt's a singer songwriter, so they shouldn't be compared. Anyway, Joe seems to have found his niche now.

Originally Posted by BrokenBromance:
“I think he'd be a fool to turn it down if he's offered a spot in Dec to promote Starlight.”

Originally Posted by 1lennonlove:
“But only if he's singing it

I guess I was really uncomfortable when Joe appeared for the second time on X Factor after his single had (apparently) bombed. Felt sorry for him and arkward about what he was saying about the album etc. Put a taint on his appearance. Would hate that for Matt.”

I agree with broken, it's a fantastic platform as Matt said right at the start of his XF bid and will help alert people to his real talent. Lennonlove, don't worry, let's face it, it isn't going to bomb, nor will his next one.

Originally Posted by Cardoodle:
“Yeah, mine arrived from Amazon this morning..yippee ..don't know why but I'm starting to really dislike RFYL! but love L&F and Chemical to bits...just think guys this time next week we'll have his amazing album..can't bl...y wait!!”

How interesting it would be if people downloaded L&F and/or Chemical individually and put one or the other into the download charts
Dharma572
10-10-2011
A top 5 single would be great I think. I know a lot of people here want a #1, but im saving all my hopes for the album reaching that position. And hopefully when Starlight is released as a single, that will achieve a top 10 too... and then I think the Letters era would be a success! The album is #1 in Amazon preorders....

However... Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds is Amazon's album of the week next week, meaning people can purchase a download for only £3.99. Hopefully Matt will shift more copies!

There's a picture of Matt on Play.com's music page which is good and he's #15 in Play.com preorders.

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/6-/RegionHome.html
diamond1
10-10-2011
Originally Posted by joshNOM:
“Hello all! New house already! Wow!

Such a shame to see Matt has dropped to #5, the trols have already started being cocky ”

I'm all for constructive criticism and can take a joke with the best of them but there are some real nasty pasties on forums who seem to get a kick out of baiting (an appropriate user name me thinks) and being offensive .. I get the impression they think they're clever and if the lemmings join in it gives them an ego boost ... sad

must admit I'm a bit disappointed at the itunes position but let's wait and see how the album does
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