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Old 10-10-2011, 18:01
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Why? It is well-written, well structured, has interesting and engaging stories and interesting, realistic characters...

Really enjoying...Tash/Michael, Chris/Lucas homophobia - well done to Andrew today, Toadie/Sonya dynamic in light of the shopping centre development and Susan/Karl/Jim aftermath.

Neighbours: the one soap no-one should be missing.
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Old 10-10-2011, 18:08
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It's not 1988 you know.
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Old 10-10-2011, 18:21
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Neighbours is far from perfect but today's episode proved taht it's the best soap at the moment - great character useage in the episode.
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Old 10-10-2011, 18:23
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I'm sorry to disagree with you but I personally think the show is dire ATM
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Old 10-10-2011, 18:24
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I love Neighbours, dont get me wrong, but its SO boring at the moment!
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Old 10-10-2011, 18:34
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Is there a reason why Michael doesn't want to tell Tash how her mother died even after all these years?

Not the most interesting set of stories lines ATM but they seem to be long running in fairness.
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Old 10-10-2011, 18:46
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Im enjoying Neighbours at the moment, defantly a must see for me.
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Old 10-10-2011, 18:49
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I'm sorry to disagree with you but I personally think the show is dire ATM
It's fine to say why you don't like it, but why don't you?
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Old 10-10-2011, 18:56
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Stopped watching a about a year ago because it got so bad and thats coming from someone who had watched religiously since the mid 1990s. I've since learned that 3 of my favourite characters: Steph, Rebecca and Lyn have all left the show now and that they have split Karl and Susan up So it doesnt sound too good and is certainly not encouraging me to start watching again.
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Old 10-10-2011, 19:12
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Stopped watching a about a year ago because it got so bad and thats coming from someone who had watched religiously since the mid 1990s. I've since learned that 3 of my favourite characters: Steph, Rebecca and Lyn have all left the show now and that they have split Karl and Susan up So it doesnt sound too good and is certainly not encouraging me to start watching again.
They haven't split Karl and Susan up as such. It is all very interesting, all character led and all believable from the characters point of view.
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Old 10-10-2011, 19:36
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It's fine to say why you don't like it, but why don't you?

I really hated the Jim/Susan/Karl SL, if it had been someone that she had known for ages, I could understand her stance but to put her marriage in jeopardy for a virtual stranger was in my view ridiculous. I don't understand why Tasha knows absolutely nothing about her Mum, even from an early age she would have asked questions. The SL about Sophie and the very strange hat wearing guitar boy is about as exciting watching paint dry, yes I know it is leading up to a boring Kate fiasco but hey how many loves does Kate have to go through. Lucas is in business and having been in a customer based environment myself you do have to let certain things that are said to you go, I personally found Chris' reaction somewhat childish he could tell that the customer was showing himself up and in a recession you can't afford to let things get to you and to have a couple of teenagers spout off is wrong IMO
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Old 10-10-2011, 19:37
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I'm enjoying it. They are also using their small cast very well. No one character is allowed to dominate, and every covers loads of different plots.
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Old 10-10-2011, 20:15
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I really hated the Jim/Susan/Karl SL, if it had been someone that she had known for ages, I could understand her stance but to put her marriage in jeopardy for a virtual stranger was in my view ridiculous...
I understand that, and I have said the same thing myself to in the past. I think for me though, their reactions to the situation and to each other has been realistic and in-keeping with the characters and their history. What is interesting, is that deep down, it is clear that they still love each other.

...I don't understand why Tasha knows absolutely nothing about her Mum, even from an early age she would have asked questions.
I guess we will find out in due course. It is fascinating though...although I am not into Michael that much.

...The SL about Sophie and the very strange hat wearing guitar boy is about as exciting watching paint dry, yes I know it is leading up to a boring Kate fiasco but hey how many loves does Kate have to go through.
I agree...I have never been into Kate or Sophie. They are too goody-goody for me.

...Lucas is in business and having been in a customer based environment myself you do have to let certain things that are said to you go, I personally found Chris' reaction somewhat childish he could tell that the customer was showing himself up and in a recession you can't afford to let things get to you and to have a couple of teenagers spout off is wrong IMO
I found all this very interesting today. If I had been Lucas and / or Chris, I would have challenged the attitudes in a positive / constructive way. I think for me to, it is the back story. Lucas's casual attitude towards prejudice etc. Andrew was bang on today. The most sensible thing he has said in years...and actually if Neighbours get people talking about prejudice, they are doing a good job.

What is interesting is that Neighbours and Eastenders are running gay story lines. Which of the two are doing a better job? I guess that is a whole other thread isn't it.
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Old 10-10-2011, 20:17
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I'm enjoying it. They are also using their small cast very well. No one character is allowed to dominate, and every covers loads of different plots.
Indeed. A small cast is good. You see all the characters regularly and you get to know them all to.

You are right, there are currently three or four stories running concurrently at the moment.
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Old 10-10-2011, 20:23
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Well miles we will have to agree to disagree and I think all the soaps are running gay SL's
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Old 10-10-2011, 21:25
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I really hated the Jim/Susan/Karl SL, if it had been someone that she had known for ages, I could understand her stance but to put her marriage in jeopardy for a virtual stranger was in my view ridiculous. I don't understand why Tasha knows absolutely nothing about her Mum, even from an early age she would have asked questions. The SL about Sophie and the very strange hat wearing guitar boy is about as exciting watching paint dry, yes I know it is leading up to a boring Kate fiasco but hey how many loves does Kate have to go through. Lucas is in business and having been in a customer based environment myself you do have to let certain things that are said to you go, I personally found Chris' reaction somewhat childish he could tell that the customer was showing himself up and in a recession you can't afford to let things get to you and to have a couple of teenagers spout off is wrong IMO
I thought that the reason Susan became so close to Jim so quickly was because he reminded her of her husband Alex who also died of cancer.
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Old 10-10-2011, 22:57
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I thought that the reason Susan became so close to Jim so quickly was because he reminded her of her husband Alex who also died of cancer.
Well Mal summed it up perfectly a few weeks ago. Susan likes helping people. And with all the time she spent with Jim they became friends and Karl got jealous. Over the storyline though I think both Susan and Karl have done stupid things. Susan refusing to even talk to Karl being one of them.

The situation with Chris/Lucas is an interesting one. Chris probably feels he's doing the right thing by standing up for his rights and it's a couragous thing in my opinion to give up a wonderful job opportunity for it. But it's a crying shame.

Lucas was clearly in an awkward situation with the homophobic customer. Reputation is everything in business and he has every right to protect his business. Put it this way. He also had every right to put the customer to rights for his attitude. But the customer has the advantage. Bad news travels fast (especially in Neighbours) and if the customer is disgruntled you can guarantee he'll spill stories to his mates, and customers drop, his business suffers. What would you do? Keep it smooth with your customer or stand up for your gay employee at the risk of affecting your business financially. It's business that pays the billls and that is important in this day and age. There must be a better way of standing up against homophobia than jacking in your job.
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:35
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I really hated the Jim/Susan/Karl SL, if it had been someone that she had known for ages, I could understand her stance but to put her marriage in jeopardy for a virtual stranger was in my view ridiculous.
Maybe you weren't watching in the late 90s, but Susan has done exactly this before. A student she was tutoring started crushing on her, and she didn't do anything to stop it, b/c she was just happy to be needed and didn't want to give that up. Karl had a similar reaction to today, as she was putting this kid first before him, spending time with and inadvertently encouraging his crush. It was all very weird. But the bottom line is, Susan needs to be needed, and when she feels she isn't, she struggles to know what to do. Granted, I think they could have built the Susan/Jim dynamic up a bit more slowly, but at the end of the day, this is all very in character for Susan. She needs to learn who she is away from being needing to be needed and go with the transition that life is now throwing at her.

I don't understand why Tasha knows absolutely nothing about her Mum, even from an early age she would have asked questions.
They already mentioned that whenever Tash did ask questions, Michael would shut her down and clam up. She learnt from an early age that her mother was a no-go area.
I like this story, as I am intrigued to learn why Michael is lying. What's the big secret?

The SL about Sophie and the very strange hat wearing guitar boy is about as exciting watching paint dry, yes I know it is leading up to a boring Kate fiasco but hey how many loves does Kate have to go through.
I'll give you this one. Kate is the magnet for love interests. The Sophie/Noah story isn't that exciting, and can be kinda dull, but it's nice to see characters aren't being thrown under the bus for the sake of plot.

Lucas is in business and having been in a customer based environment myself you do have to let certain things that are said to you go, I personally found Chris' reaction somewhat childish he could tell that the customer was showing himself up and in a recession you can't afford to let things get to you and to have a couple of teenagers spout off is wrong IMO
Australia aren't really in a recession, so that doesn't apply. Plus, Lucas has done this before with Steph, when a sexist customer refused to let Steph work on his car, b/c she was a woman, and Lucas did exactly the same thing that he did with Chris, and gave way to the customer. Steph reacted the same way Chris did, and eventually Lucas apologised and Steph put the customer in his place. From Chris' perspective, it looks like Lucas condones the customers opinion, and as a co-worker, Lucas should IMO stand up for him. There are some things you should let fly, but bigoted views are not one of them. Lucas doesn't need custom like that. Plus, the garage has been in business for years, and has built up a solid reputation, and one disgruntled customer over being chastised is not going to dent that, especially when the reason circulates.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:36
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The way Michael gets on when Tash asks about her mother, it would be a fair assumption that he murdered her. Even if he didn't, his reactions are very suspicious.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:39
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Do you think the actor who plays Michael spent a week at the beach and filmed 100 scenes of him looking at the sea...looking at the photo by the sea....running into the sea...?
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:43
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Do you think the actor who plays Michael spent a week at the beach and filmed 100 scenes of him looking at the sea...looking at the photo by the sea....running into the sea...?
Yeah and then they just insert the scenes whenever Michael is having an emotional crisis.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:47
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Yeah and then they just insert the scenes whenever Michael is having an emotional crisis.
Yep! It's so boring though
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:48
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Yep! It's so boring though
It's a wonder he has anytime to be headmaster of the school.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:57
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Putting the story lines aside, is Neighbours well structured? Is it well paced? Does each episode move the show forward?
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Old 11-10-2011, 13:10
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Do you think the actor who plays Michael spent a week at the beach and filmed 100 scenes of him looking at the sea...looking at the photo by the sea....running into the sea...?

Yes I agree with you and it was great to read so many constructive arguments about my thoughts on the program, I have watched Neighbours for so many years but at the moment I do find it boring but great to read others findings and why, very interesting, I will keep watching though in the hope it will pick up, for me that is. It is also nice to see that we can all agree to disagree without it becoming a war zone as with other threads
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