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Old 20-09-2004, 19:03
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The plane crash saved Emmerdale.

But the helicopter crash didn't save Brookie.

Can the car bomb save EastEnders?


If YES, what needs to be done to ensure this
If NO, why not?
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Old 20-09-2004, 19:10
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Quite possibly. I actually think that with or without, EE is improving anyway.

They should write they scripts well and realistically, and make sure that the actors do the best they can!
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Old 20-09-2004, 19:24
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A car bomb in London - a bit close to the bone isn't it?

does this mean they'll get rid of some unwanted cast members?
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Old 20-09-2004, 19:31
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I dont think the point in the car bomb is to save EE, EE is already on the rise and doesnt need too be saved.
You cant assume that every disaster is meant to save a soap, they are just tackaling issues that havent been done before.
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Old 20-09-2004, 19:35
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I think the car bomb will be ok the difference between EE and Brookside was that Brookie had a big disaster nearly every other month and it is very rare that Eastenders does anything like this so it should be ok.
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Old 20-09-2004, 19:50
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Although I'm heartly sick of 'explosive' storylines in soaps - how about some decently written ones instead if they use it properly it could, possibly, be very useful in getting rid of the deadwood in the cast, use it for a clear out of those well past their sell by date, cough*Den*cough, those not up to the job (Spencer, Juley, Vicki and Sam all take a step forward please ) and maybe one or two for shock value - then start, if not with a clean slate, at least with fresh impetus (or however your spell it) to drive the show forward again.
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Old 20-09-2004, 19:57
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The brookside thing was different as they were already too far gone. They were trying to hold on to any last viewers they had. It will be a while before Eastenders is in their position.
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Old 20-09-2004, 20:27
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when did corrie last do a big disaster?
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Old 20-09-2004, 22:23
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Originally Posted by Early Bird
A car bomb in London - a bit close to the bone isn't it?

does this mean they'll get rid of some unwanted cast members?
I think thats what they're going for, a storyline that will cause reaction with the public. EastEnders has over the years done many storylines that have been talking points in the public domain, so I reckon they're going for a big one here on their 20th.

In fairness to Brookie, it had already been killed by Channel 4 weeks before the helicoptor crash got to air. It was in a Saturday afternoon timeslot and didn't get half the recognition it should have. Proof again that Channel 4 wanted rid. The Brookie helicoptor crash was the culmination of an already fantastic storyline, shame that C4 didn't let it get the glory it deserved.

EastEnders months before the planned bomb attack in Walford, is improving anyways, they are obviously working at Elstree to bring EastEnders back into shape, but I think this storyline will help and EE 20th should do really well in the ratings and will be a big success.
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Old 20-09-2004, 22:43
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Originally Posted by willhung

In fairness to Brookie, it had already been killed by Channel 4 weeks before the helicoptor crash got to air. It was in a Saturday afternoon timeslot and didn't get half the recognition it should have. Proof again that Channel 4 wanted rid. The Brookie helicoptor crash was the culmination of an already fantastic storyline, shame that C4 didn't let it get the glory it deserved.
Brookie still had its 3 episodes a week during the helicopter crash but after that, thats when it went to one big episode every Saturday. Channel 4 had messed with the show so much for the previous couple of years by moving it around the schedules so much. Plus they didn't help by announcing the axe the week before the million pound revamp (seige and helicopter crash), they didn't even give it a chance to see if this revamp could turn around the fortunes of the soap!
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Old 20-09-2004, 23:06
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I miss Brookside Does anybody know when the new Brookie DVDs come out?!
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Old 20-09-2004, 23:16
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Originally Posted by Mick H
I miss Brookside Does anybody know when the new Brookie DVDs come out?!
I have no idea! Its really strange how one has not been out already as on the first one they had a trailer from the 2nd and then on about the 100 greatest Brookie moments so they should all have been filmed ages ago!
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Old 20-09-2004, 23:20
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Back in the mid 80's Eastenders planned a car bomb storyline involveing the IRA which was to kill off Pete Beale but June Brown protested so much they dropped it and kept on the actor in fear of looseing June.
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Old 20-09-2004, 23:31
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I have no idea! Its really strange how one has not been out already as on the first one they had a trailer from the 2nd and then on about the 100 greatest Brookie moments so they should all have been filmed ages ago!
Yeah theres supposed to be 'The 100 Greatest Moments' and 'Moving On' - which shows you what Barry Grant got upto when he went of somewhere in the final episode! Maybe they will come out within the next few months as the official website is relaunching soon?!
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Old 20-09-2004, 23:34
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I hope so! They were meant to release about 4 a year yet we are in the 9th month already and nothing new!
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Old 21-09-2004, 00:17
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London has been 'lucky' for ages with regards to terrorism.

Can't we have something original instead - how about a fire at the Vic?
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Old 21-09-2004, 00:21
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Petrol bombings and maybe the odd hand grenade are the preferred means of EE type gangsters not car bombs. Car bombs are used by terrorists and all the suggestions are that the storyline is gangster based
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Old 21-09-2004, 01:08
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Originally Posted by Jamfocus
when did corrie last do a big disaster?
Corrie doesn't do that many disasters. The last one I remember was the fire at the rovers, and before that the lorry crashing into the Rovers and Deidre thinking that Baby Tracy was trapped under the wreckage.

though I'm sure someone, probably Ben, will prove me wrong
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Old 21-09-2004, 01:34
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Underworld had a fire back in february which Janice almost died in. Nick had to go in and save her. That was their last big disaster.
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Old 21-09-2004, 01:47
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In answer to the question, NO. Disasters do not save soaps; it's the writing and direction that follows that determines what the show will be like.

The plane crash was superb, but it signalled the start of a new producer (I think) and a new path for Emmerdale. The writing was good, better use of characters and bigger, more entertaining plots. It was a way of attracting viewers, but it would have gone back to how it was before if they hadn't moved things up several notches and kept the pace going. Which they did successfully.

The fact is, Eastenders may have Louise Berridge in charge of the bomb situation and directly after, which makes me worry the show will go back to its usual dull self a couple of weeks following the bomb.
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Old 21-09-2004, 03:36
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How about a nuclear suicide bomber in Albert Square. I can think of a few candidates ?
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Old 21-09-2004, 03:39
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Originally Posted by chocopop
Quite possibly. I actually think that with or without, EE is improving anyway.

They should write they scripts well and realistically, and make sure that the actors do the best they can!
The scripts getting better ??!! I dont think so. This programme becomes more and more departed from reality by the day. As for the acting, I thought 'Eldorado' was poor.
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Old 21-09-2004, 11:52
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Its funny that it was Phil Redmond who saved Emmerdale, he was drafted for 9 months by Yorkshire TV who were desperate to save the show. He masterminded the plane crash and killed off about five characters. And yet Channel 4 wouldn't allow him save Brookie. He wasn't in charge of Brookside during its worst times, it was the work of idiot Producers, most notably Michael Jackson (Not the King Of Pop) who ruined with useless characters, boring plots and then even worse sensational plots. Phil Redmond took over again in Brookie's final year and it was good. But it was too late. Safra are you sure the 21st anniversary storyline was shown in its evening timeslot? I really don't think it was.

Anyway, I was all for the BBC doing what Yorkshire did, and drafting in a top Producer to save EE but it seems to be slowly recovering. I don't think its at the stage Brookie was at before it was axed. It still gets a healthy viewing figure, which was one of the big arguments against Brookie being saved, was that nobody watched it anymore. The plots have been poor overall this year, we know that but things are getting better and with the return of characters and storylines that are being planned, by February, the bomb will merely boost EastEnders, not save it, but it will be a memorable storyline that is sure to rake in the viewers. At least we can say EE haven't done anything of this type before.
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Old 21-09-2004, 11:56
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Originally Posted by Loopy Lisa Chez
I think the car bomb will be ok the difference between EE and Brookside was that Brookie had a big disaster nearly every other month and it is very rare that Eastenders does anything like this so it should be ok.
I thought the fair ground thing was a disaster?!? Plus burning down the Snooker Hall/Angies Den.

A bomb could work, but if it is a terrorist bomb why on earth would they target Walford when their are no famous landmarks around (Ok, we have Arthur's bench )

Not too sure if this can work, a little undecided. Is this a definate storyline of just rumours?!? Tbh, I am sick of false promises from EE. The fairground whatever it was supposed to be dramatic and kill off a major cast member (or so was the impression I was under). Laura's death...oh please! If it is well written, brilliant. If it is another sensational storyline with no results this will be bitter disappointment.
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Old 21-09-2004, 12:02
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You have a point jumpy, I would class the fairground thing as a disaster as it was an accident. Angie's Den and the Snooker Hall were arson attacks, one family trying to crush another whilst also claiming insurance. I wouldn't class the planned bomb a "disaster" obviously it will be devestating, but a Disaster would mean something that is nobodys fault. Someone will obviously plant the bomb, only if its planted by somone who is not a main character would it be classed as a Disaster.
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