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Old 12-10-2011, 21:27
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The CW have given Ringer a back 9 order. It'll produce a full 22 episode season.
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Old 12-10-2011, 21:28
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Old 12-10-2011, 21:38
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Wow New thread Page 26 it's amazing how many great ratings are among those Parts. Do we know if and when we can read Part 3 again?
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Old 12-10-2011, 21:42
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Old 12-10-2011, 21:42
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It only seems like yesterday when I was on Part 13 .
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Old 12-10-2011, 21:50
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Series finale guests on The Jonathan Ross Show (Sat 22 Oct): Miranda Hart, Michael Sheen & Noel Gallagher (also performing new single). Such Fun.
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Old 12-10-2011, 22:12
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NBC have order 6 more scripts of both Harry's Law and Prime Suspect. Harry's Law feels like an attempt to keep David E Kelley and Kathy Bates onside. The Prime Suspect one makes no real sense at all.
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Old 12-10-2011, 22:20
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Come on Digital Spy - these new threads every fortnight are getting ridiculous. I know there are justified benefits when a thread gets to a certain size but I think you could brave getting closer to 200 pages you chickens!

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Good point. And yet ITV used to dominate Tuesday nights many moons ago. I can't help but feel that if The Bill was kept on Tuesday nights instead of being moved in 2002, maybe ITV might still have a solid Tuesday night performe, as some people have already said. Moving The Bill from Tuesdays and Fridays not only gave Holby City a clear run, but paved the way for EastEnders to add a fourth episode on Fridays.
EastEnders would have got it's fourth episode in somewhere - either Wednesdays or Sundays I guess, and arguably for ITV having it on Friday is less of a problem to them than Wed or Sun.

In my view though if Downton Abbey had been kept to a 60-minute slot the Tuesday 8pm slot would be perfect for a quick repeat airing.
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Old 12-10-2011, 22:21
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Amanda Knox, the American who won her appeal over the killing of British student Meredith Kercher, is to be the subject of a fast-turnaround documentary for Channel 5.

As revealed yesterday it will be broadcast on October 25th at 8pm.


Does that mean Inferior Interiors is being pulled or just delayed? That slot would have been the series finale.
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Old 12-10-2011, 22:25
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Come on Digital Spy - these new threads every fortnight are getting ridiculous. I know there are justified benefits when a thread gets to a certain size but I think you could brave getting closer to 200 pages you chickens!


EastEnders would have got it's fourth episode in somewhere - either Wednesdays or Sundays I guess, and arguably for ITV having it on Friday is less of a problem to them than Wed or Sun.

In my view though if Downton Abbey had been kept to a 60-minute slot the Tuesday 8pm slot would be perfect for a quick repeat airing.
True but ITV could have done a better job in keeping Fridays out of bounds. The combination of Corrie at 7.30pm and The Bill at 8pm was a ratings banker with Corrie usually getting 15/16 million and The Bill getting 10-13 million with Corrie's lead-in (this was around 96/97 time). Moving The Bill away opened a gap for EastEnders to exploit.

As regards to Downton Abbey, I don't think it would work as a repeat airing on Tuesdays. I think Wednesday is a good day for feature-length drama.
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Old 12-10-2011, 22:27
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Watched the first half hour or so of High Stakes last night, but found it rather dull and boring. Maybe a daytime show with lower prize money it could work but I can't see why ITV1 thought it would work in primetime

Looking on Barb at the Channel 5 officials for week ending 2nd Oct. The Bachelor at number 13 with 1.24m - not a huge time shift but shows how it has done solid, if not spectacular business for Channel 5 being their 12th most popular show of the week (there is a film split into two parts in the Barb officials, hence 13th place really being 12th)
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Old 12-10-2011, 22:34
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True but ITV could have done a better job in keeping Fridays out of bounds. The combination of Corrie at 7.30pm and The Bill at 8pm was a ratings banker with Corrie usually getting 15/16 million and The Bill getting 10-13 million with Corrie's lead-in (this was around 96/97 time). Moving The Bill away opened a gap for EastEnders to exploit.
Of course ITV moved The Bill before it became an hour long, in 1998 it was looking a bit ragged and they moved it to 8.30 on Fridays to allow other shows to get the luxury of a Corrie lead-in, Airline was the first to go there. At the time Friday was really weak pre-watershed for BBC1. Then after six months the whole thing was revamped as an hour long show, of course, though for a while they did run it on Fridays again.

I suppose there were sensible reasons why they moved The Bill from Tuesdays to Wednesdays, which they did in 2002, it was allow them to move the Champions League from Wednesday to Tuesday, which had the benefit of them not having to keep moving Corrie on Wednesdays, and also it had the same benefits as it has now - keeping Tuesdays, traditionally a strong BBC1 night, competitive and allowing them to put more stuff on Wednesdays, traditionally a weak BBC1 night. Also of course it meant it didn't go up against Holby.
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Old 12-10-2011, 22:42
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Of course ITV moved The Bill before it became an hour long, in 1998 it was looking a bit ragged and they moved it to 8.30 on Fridays to allow other shows to get the luxury of a Corrie lead-in, Airline was the first to go there. At the time Friday was really weak pre-watershed for BBC1. Then after six months the whole thing was revamped as an hour long show, of course, though for a while they did run it on Fridays again.

I suppose there were sensible reasons why they moved The Bill from Tuesdays to Wednesdays, which they did in 2002, it was allow them to move the Champions League from Wednesday to Tuesday, which had the benefit of them not having to keep moving Corrie on Wednesdays, and also it had the same benefits as it has now - keeping Tuesdays, traditionally a strong BBC1 night, competitive and allowing them to put more stuff on Wednesdays, traditionally a weak BBC1 night. Also of course it meant it didn't go up against Holby.
The Bill was still getting 10 million with a Corrie lead in on Friday nights in the early months of 1998. The episodes were not that good, not as good as in 1997, and the half-hour era was really starting to tire out badly. They indeed ran it on Fridays for a while. I think for the while, they did hour-long episodes on Tuesday, Thursday and Friday, in October 1998 I think, but it soon reverted to Tuesdays and Thursdays only, sometimes Friday. Ratings did drop for the Friday episode, and according to some figures that you, Steve Williams kindly gave me, the Tuesday episode became the highest rated, I believe when they did move to 8.30pm in February/March, with 9.54 million. Ratings dropped like a stone in summer of 1998 with just 7 million tuning in, as it clashed for a while with Changing Rooms on BBC1.

All of this coincided with a new producer, Richard Handford, coming in to replace Michael Chapman in 1998. He spearheaded the move to hour-long episodes, but the first eight months of his tenure (which was still half-hour eps) was quite bad.
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Old 12-10-2011, 23:06
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I think The Bill was best on Wednesdays and Thursdays at 8pm. I remember it did well in the ratings back then.
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Old 12-10-2011, 23:09
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I think The Bill was best on Wednesdays and Thursdays at 8pm. I remember it did well in the ratings back then.
It did well when it moved to Wednesdays, on account of the fact that that era of The Bill was very sensationalist and soapy. I prefer it on Tuesdays to be honest. It's suited to Tuesdays and it got good viewing figures.
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Old 12-10-2011, 23:10
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Does that mean Inferior Interiors is being pulled or just delayed? That slot would have been the series finale.
I'd imagine Kelly Hoppen's show will be back the following week. Real Food Family Cook Off is also missing from the October 25th schedule, replaced by a rerun of Extraordinary Dogs.
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Old 12-10-2011, 23:12
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It was one of those typically snobby situations. People complained that The Bill was too soapy, too much about the officer's private lives, less about policing, so they changed it and ratings went down. They then changed it to be grittier like a proper drama, and ratings went down even further.

As we see from Waterloo Road, Holby City etc, people like the soapy, relationships stuff, even if the TV snobs don't. (It is compulsory in Waterloo Road that the Headteacher has at least one affair with another teacher at least once per series, and every few series they throw in a teacher having a relationship with a student story!)
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Old 12-10-2011, 23:15
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CW's new dramas, The Secret Circle and Hart of Dixie received a back 9 episode order for a full season, alongside Ringer. The Secret Circle was expected, but was quite surprised at Hart of Dixie. I thought CW was going to wait a few weeks before making any decisions about Hart of Dixie.
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Old 12-10-2011, 23:39
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I think The Bill was best on Wednesdays and Thursdays at 8pm. I remember it did well in the ratings back then.
Yeah I agree James J - it was best suited to Wednesday's and Thursday's. The Corrie lead-in on Wednesday's always meant it did well and Thursday it performed solidily too. During that time it was one of my favourite shows. Its sad the way the show went especially after the re-vamp when they moved it to Thursday's at 9pm - just dreadful then IMO.

It did well when it moved to Wednesdays, on account of the fact that that era of The Bill was very sensationalist and soapy. I prefer it on Tuesdays to be honest. It's suited to Tuesdays and it got good viewing figures.
It did have a more soapy feel and viewers did like that. More people apparently wanted it to be more police-y, but when they did that looked what happened there. Ratings went down and it got moved to Tuesday flop-zone and got axed.
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Old 12-10-2011, 23:41
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It was one of those typically snobby situations. People complained that The Bill was too soapy, too much about the officer's private lives, less about policing, so they changed it and ratings went down. They then changed it to be grittier like a proper drama, and ratings went down even further.

As we see from Waterloo Road, Holby City etc, people like the soapy, relationships stuff, even if the TV snobs don't. (It is compulsory in Waterloo Road that the Headteacher has at least one affair with another teacher at least once per series, and every few series they throw in a teacher having a relationship with a student story!)
The thing about The Bill was that even when it first went twice a week, the show was always about dealing with crime. You never saw it from the criminal's viewpoint and rarely saw the officer's private lives.

It was on twice a week like a soap but wasn't really like a soap back then. More like a half hour police drama. When it got more soapy it lost its edge for me. Losing great characters like Tosh Lines, Roach, Dashwood and Burnside didn't help either.
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Old 13-10-2011, 00:25
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Yeah I agree James J - it was best suited to Wednesday's and Thursday's. The Corrie lead-in on Wednesday's always meant it did well and Thursday it performed solidily too. During that time it was one of my favourite shows. Its sad the way the show went especially after the re-vamp when they moved it to Thursday's at 9pm - just dreadful then IMO.

It did have a more soapy feel and viewers did like that. More people apparently wanted it to be more police-y, but when they did that looked what happened there. Ratings went down and it got moved to Tuesday flop-zone and got axed.
From the couple of episodes I watched after the 9pm revamp, the quality was still there but it felt like a completely different show and it obviously alienated a lot of existing viewers without attracting many new ones.
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Old 13-10-2011, 00:39
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Last Man Standing did very well for ABC, think having Tim Allen helped intial interested, think if it can do hold with say 11-12m then it'll be renewed for season 2. Not sure who would picked it up here as it's more family orientated compared to say 2 Broke Girls or New Girl.

Comedy seems to have made a comeback in the US, wonder if that'll occur over here?
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Old 13-10-2011, 01:15
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X Factor not airing on FOX tonight due to rain delayed baseball coverage. I guess ITV2 will just have to air something else. FOX will air tonight's planned episode on Thursday night.
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Old 13-10-2011, 01:32
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X Factor not airing on FOX tonight due to rain delayed baseball coverage. I guess ITV2 will just have to air something else. FOX will air tonight's planned episode on Thursday night.
Isnt FOX airing one or two episodes on Tuesdays in place of Glee, New Girl and Raising Hope, must be difficult as The X Factor has to finish by December. Series 2 should air in August or early September to get a head start,
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Old 13-10-2011, 01:41
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X Factor not airing on FOX tonight due to rain delayed baseball coverage. I guess ITV2 will just have to air something else. FOX will air tonight's planned episode on Thursday night.
Apparently it is running as normal In Canada. Fox have provisionally announced that the missing episode will air Sunday but that could be delayed again if there is another Baseball game.

. Series 2 should air in August or early September to get a head start,
Wouldn't that mean a clash with America's Got Talent at least on Wednesdays?
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