Just checked an This Saturday's TXF was only a bit down from 2009's 10.3 million wasn't it?
But that was actually on 31st of October so.....

You said it Robbie. Three million ahead in a 10 minute clash. Bloody hell. I thought a shorter overlap would have helped The X Factor more. Well no clash this weekend so The X Factor should do better.

From Attentional on Twitter

They did save Jason Donovan till last didn't they? If they put Audley Harrison on last it would have been a bit smaller gap I guess.

Now that Attentional stat is fascinating. And not what I was expecting.

Strictly have been very clever about their running order I have to say.

To be fair it is slightly unfair to compare the beginning of the X Factor with the end of Strictly. Who would sit through 90 minutes of a show and miss the last 10?

If I was a fan of TXF or indeed any show I would want to see the start. I imagine a lot of TXF viewers watch SCD until TXF starts. Of course some viewers will stick with SCD until the credits roll.

I'm with you. Personally when a show I like is starting I want to see it from the beginning.I see lots of comments on Twitter from people saying they're turning over because The X Factor is starting. Must be a bigger crossover audience than people realise.

I've never quite understood why ITV in particular backed away from children's television quite as dramatically as they have because when you get it right (or even halfway right) it is potentially an absolute goldmine. The shows you mentioned all make millions from branded merchandise and at this point Doctor Who must be making a small fortune from its merchandise. I've also never really understood why we haven't seen more British animation particularly in light of the fact that shows like The Simpsons and Family Guy have been very successful in the UK and again have huge potential for merchandising. If BBC3 does lose Family Guy then they could do worse than commission an original British animated comedy and try it in the same slot. If they were smart they'd have done that already and used Family Guy to launch it.


Didn't ITV already try a very similar show to this in primetime Saturday night a few years ago? I want to say Phillip Schofield presented it but I cannot for the life of me remember what it was called. It bombed though and got pulled (from primetime at least) very quickly.

I'm not sure its a show that works as a regular series though. Fox seem to have the right idea with it in the US running it as a series of specials across the year rather than a weekly series. That also allows for much bigger scale than you'd be able to get from a weekly series.


That's a very interesting stat.


In fairness very little actually happens during the first 10 minutes of The X Factor. Its basically just the inflated 'biggest. week. ever' video and then introduction of the judges and then the VT for the first act so I'm not surprised people weren't manically switching over at 8PM on the dot.

I do wonder if it might help the production team to switch up their running order a little more on the Saturday show and play around with the timing and structure. Right now I feel like I could probably flick onto ITV just as each performance starts and miss the VT's, awkward Dermot interviews and ad breaks without too much trouble or effort.

I'm sure everyone who has sky+ does what I do and watch SCD until it ends and then watch X Factor (fastforwarding through the intro, ads and most of the VTs until I have caught up with real time).

I don't understand the point of that statistic. Surely the people that watch both are the same group of people whichever way you look at it. Therefore the show that gets the most overall viewers would automatically record the lower percentage of crossover?

Before the live boxing on Saturday 12th, C5 are showing The Great Escape across 3.5 hours of primetime.

That should rate well. According to my listings data, this classic film has not been shown on terrestrial TV since at least December 2009. Before that it used to be a regular on BBC Two over the Christmas holidays. I can't remember the last time it was shown on commercial TV, must be yonks.

I think some people start Strictly 20 minutes in to fast forward through Bruce's links too.

I like to keep you guys waiting

anyhoo data for w/e 23rd October 2011 is now available on BARB website

enjoy!

Hello Mike

What is The X Factor's rating for October 22nd including HD & +1?

lazy me says, check this report

http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weekly-top-programmes?

Strong week for Channel 5. Highlights:

* Only broadcaster out of the main 5 channels to not lose audience share year-on-year, holding firm at 4.6%.
* 8 unique programmes topped the 1.5m mark, with The Bachelor adding 210k on timeshift to hit a series high for its semi-final.
* Highland Emergency hit a series high 1.1m, becoming the highest rating 7.30 programme on Channel 5 this year.
* Alphas series premiere topped 650k including +1 on 5* to become the channel's highest rating non-soap programme ever.

Perfect. That's the bit I was looking for.

But do we include +1 & HD for ITV shows? I always get confused there.

Mike

When are the figures for ITV HD going to be incorporated in ITV1 just like BARB does for BBC1?

I don't think they will be, as they get pretty strong figures for the separate channel

I think the incorporated channel BBC1, Channel 4, Channel 5, ITV2 et al have done so because their respective HD channel figures are so low

Very strong week for Hollyoaks on E4...

1 HOLLYOAKS (MON 1900) 922k
2 HOLLYOAKS (WED 1900) 834k
3 HOLLYOAKS (TUE 1900) 825k
4 HOLLYOAKS (FRI 1900) 736k
5 HOLLYOAKS (THU 1901) 704k

The above figures compare very favourably to the same week in 2010 where only one episode made E4's top 10 with 427k. For a higher rating equivalent week you have to go back to w/c October 20 2008:

1 HOLLYOAKS (Mon 18:59) 1.182m
2 HOLLYOAKS (Tue 19:00) 1,116m
3 HOLLYOAKS (Wed 18:59) 1.039m
4 HOLLYOAKS (Thu 18:59) 826k
5 HOLLYOAKS (Fri 19:00) 704k

Source: BARB.

I think it makes sense for HD to be included. It's not like it's a different schedule. And as I said before when Strictly beats The X Factor in consolidated ratings we can say the tide is turning. The Sunday results show for The X Factor still rates very highly. Strictly never timeshifts as high as The X Factor.

RZT and TrickyTree explained recently that ITV1 HD and ITV1 ratings are separated by BARB, because the channels have different regional variants. The two cannot ever be added together by BARB until ITV1 HD has the same regional variants as ITV1. This is because advertisers would be paying for the wrong viewership in each region.

For the BBC, they are not commercial so they can add the HD viewers in.

This topic has been addressed before. See below why the above is not possible:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=1701