I presume you mean Terrestrial TV as the World Series (indeed all of the playoffs) are shown live still (and in HD) on ESPN America.

And, thankfully, unlike when it was on Five, if a game runs for hours until around 6 am it is not suddenly cut off at the very end so as to screen Thomas the Tank Engine.

I think the Sunday November 13th X Factor ratings will be huge for this year anyway the guest they have on are enough to get a peak of atleast 15 million.

Lady Gaga- Performing new single and is huge world wide star

One Direction-All the teen girls who stopped watching will watch to see them premier there new single and do the first live performance of it.


although I personally dislike both I think the ratings should be decent for them.

In our household it's SCD until the last dance, then the Sky plussed TV Burp, then chase play X Factor. We just about catch up.

Which says something about how bloated The X Factor performance shows are I'm sure.

It's the same reason why they didn't take part in the HD EPG swap on Sky. You still get the regional SD versions on 101-105.

ITV2/3/4HD and E4HD swapped as they're single region channels for content and advertising.

ITV1HD currently have four regions on Sky (London, Meridian South, Cental West and Granada) two on Freesat (London and Granada), don't know about DTT/Virgin.

I'm in Devon and get Central. So loads of ads for businesses in the West Midlands. So none of the SW businesses are getting their ads into homes watching ITV1 HD. They can't be happy losing loads of ABC1s (69% of Sky HD subscribers) and 18-34 (40%) and males (61%).

Final schedules: Fairground Attractions starts Thursday 17th November at 8pm on Channel 5 (HD), followed at 9pm by all new Mentalist. The Great Escape's rare terrestrial outing moves to Sunday 13th at 5:25pm.

More news on the other channels later when DigiGuide updates.

I'm a celeb will start on Sunday 13th November.

I would agree with most if not all of that, plus...

The judges panel - yes, too many changes for viewers to handle - only 1 out of 4 judges left from last year - crazy!

The clash - ITV should have swallowed their pride and kept X Factor away from SCD right from the start - a stupid move to overlap.

The length - Shows 2 hrs. plus again are madness - tighten the whole thing up and reduce it to 1 1/2 - 1 3/4 hrs. max.

The ads - There has been a lot of negative publicity about this too. ITV have overcooked their goose here.


ITV will need to sit down and think through the whole thing for next year - Gary is already making noises about thinking if he would do another series (ermm - would he be asked?) - I agree with other posters that I can't see Kelly returning, I think Gary won't either - that leaves us with Louis and 3 others - poss. Alexandra Burke to replace Kelly, a.n. other to replace Tulisa (though she is doing fine with her goups) and the return of Simon Cowell....

The longer term success of the show maybe can't hinge on Cowell being there, but if they are going to squeeze a few more years out of it then maybe he should be back. :sleep:

Boo to no ratings from last night yet. The X Factor's irregular ratings must have damaged the system, and they won't be available until at least 5:30pm. We do however a Top 20 update! But before that, two ratings from Saturday:

BBC News: 4.3m (20.1%)
Match Of The Day: 4.6m (27.2%)

Meanwhile...

Most Watched Shows of 2011 [Top 20 - Officials]
01 - 13.95m - THE ROYAL WEDDING (29/04/11) - BBC1/HD/BBC NEWS
02 - 12.92m - THE X FACTOR (02/10/11) - ITV1/HD
03 - 12.63m - BRITAIN'S GOT TALENT (04/06/11) - ITV1/HD
04 - 12.56m - CORONATION STREET (14/02/11) - ITV1/HD
05 - 11.42m - EASTENDERS (03/01/11) - BBC1/HD

06 - 11.16m - DOWNTON ABBEY (25/09/11) - ITV1/HD
07 - 10.76m - BBC NEWS (29/04/11) - BBC1/HD
08 - 10.49m - DOC MARTIN (17/10/11) - ITV1/HD
09 - 10.35m - STRICTLY COME DANCING (22/10/11) - BBC1/HD
10 - 10.26m - COMIC RELIEF (18/03/11) - BBC1/HD

11 - 10.24m - THE APPRENTICE (17/07/11) - BBC1/HD
12 - 10.23m - DANCING ON ICE (09/01/11) - ITV1/HD
13 - 9.87m - NEW TRICKS (15/08/11) - BBC1/HD
14 - 9.68m - THE EUROVISION SONG CONTEST (14/05/11) - BBC1/HD
15 - 9.52m - EMMERDALE (13/01/11) - ITV1/HD

16 - 9.11m - SCOTT & BAILEY (29/05/11) - ITV1/HD
17 - 8.86m - DOCTOR WHO (23/04/11) - BBC1/HD
18 - 8.80m - BIG FAT GYPSY WEDDINGS (08/02/11) - C4
19 - 8.80m - COME FLY WITH ME (01/01/11) - BBC1/HD
20 - 8.69m - WILD AT HEART (09/01/11) - ITV1/HD

Notes:
- No duplicates: i.e. no BGT/DOI in there twice.
- HD audience included for all programmes airing on HD
- BBC1 HD is bundled in automatically with BBC1
- ITV1 +1 excluded
- The Royal Wedding is BBC1 and BBC News only.

Most Watched Multichannel Shows of 2011 [Top 20 - Officials]
01 - 2.69m - LIVE FORD SUPER SUNDAY - MATCH (06/02/11) - Sky Sports 1
02 - 2.66m - AN IDIOT ABROAD (23/09/11) - Sky1
03 - 2.63m - GLEE (17/01/11) - E4
04 - 2.25m - CELEBRITY JUICE (19/05/11) - ITV2
05 - 2.01m - TERRA NOVA (03/10/11) - Sky1

06 - 2.00m - HATTIE (19/01/11) - BBC4
07 - 2.00m - TROLLIED (04/08/11) - Sky1
08 - 1.99m - BRITAIN'S GOT MORE TALENT (04/06/11) - ITV2
09 - 1.97m - LIVE FORD FOOTBALL SPECIAL (01/03/11) - Sky Sports 2
10 - 1.94m - UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE LIVE (12/04/11) - Sky Sports 2

11 - 1.88m - THE ONLY WAY IS ESSEX (25/09/11) - ITV2
12 - 1.81m - LIVE FA COMMUNITY SHIELD FOOTBALL (07/08/11) - Sky Sports 1
13 - 1.77m - MAD DOGS (03/03/11) - Sky1
14 - 1.72m - EASTENDERS (30/05/11) - BBC3
15 - 1.72m - LIVE INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL (07/10/10) - Sky Sports 2

16 - 1.71m - FAMILY GUY (22/05/11) - BBC3
17 - 1.69m - JUNIOR DOCTORS (15/03/11) - BBC3
18 - 1.67m - LIVE FORD MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL (22/08/11) - Sky Sports 1
19 - 1.58m - THE XTRA FACTOR (10/09/11)
20 - 1.57m - BEING HUMAN (23/01/11) - BBC3

Source: BARB. Excludes +1, Includes HD for Terrestrial Chart. Only 1 programme per 'show', i.e. only one Ford Super Sunday game.

Strictly would have overtaken Doc Martin except Doc Martin recorded a series high of it's own. So, it doesn't.

Have some US numbers for Sunday to tide you over...

US Ratings Sunday October 30

Without the World Series to challenge it Sunday Night Football once again led NBC to an easy Sunday night victory.

In more interesting news Once Upon A Time held up brilliantly in week two equalling its overnight performance and dropping down just a tenth from finals last week. We’ll see if it can manage another upward adjustment and pull off 100% retention which would be astonishing. Once Upon A Time also pushed both Desperate Housewives and Pan Am up a tenth vs. last week but it’s too little too late for Pan Am I imagine.

Over on Fox the latest instalment of The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror pulled in a 4.0 but that didn't help Allan Gregory it looks to be another swing and a miss for Animation Domination. Family Guy was down 9% from its last original.

The CBS line-up can basically be ignored because of football overrun.

ABC
7PM: Once Upon A Time[r] – 1.2 [5.20]
8PM: Once Upon A Time – 3.9 [11.64]
9PM: Desperate Housewives – 3.1 [9.28]
10PM: Pan Am – 1.9 [5.59]

CBS
7PM: NFL Overrun / 60 Minutes – 6.8 [23.53]
8PM: 60 Minutes / Amazing Race – 3.5 [14.29]
9PM: Amazing Race / The Good Wife – 2.3 [10.12]
10PM: The Good Wife / CSI: Miami – 2.0 [10.14]

Fox
7PM: The Cleveland Show[r] – 1.9 [4.84]
7:30PM: The Simpsons[r] – 2.5 [5.41]
8PM: The Simpsons – 4.0 [8.01]
8:30PM: Allen Gregory – 2.4 [4.74]
9PM: Family Guy – 3.2 [5.97]
9:30PM: The Cleveland Show – 2.3 [4.63]

NBC
7PM: Football Night in America – 3.4 [9.09]
8PM: Football Night in America – 5.9 [15.14]
8:30PM: Sunday Night Football – 8.5 [21.98]
9PM: Sunday Night Football – 8.5 [21.26]
10PM: Sunday Night Football – 7.6 [18.16]

What do you mean by irregular?

As a general point regarding timeshifts...

Saturday 22nd October Overnights
BBC One
18:25- Strictly Come Dancing - 9.45m (38.7%) timeshift 0.90m
20:15- Merlin - 5.52m (21.4%) timeshift 1.44m
21:00- Casualty - 4.23m (16.6%) timeshift 1.00m

BBC Two
20:15- Dad's Army: 2.02m (7.8%) timeshift 0.04m

ITV1
17:30- You've Been Framed! - 3.16m (17.6%) timeshift -0.03m, excluding HD
18:30- All Star Family Fortunes - 3.98m (16.9%) timeshift 0.06m, excluding HD
19:30- Harry Hill's TV Burp - 4.70m (18.6%) timeshift -0.12m, excluding HD
20:00- The X Factor - 9.77m (38.0%) timeshift 1.29m
21:55- The Jonathan Ross Show - 3.48m (17.4%) timeshift -0.04m, excluding HD

Channel 4
21:00- The Hurt Locker: 1.42m (6.8%) timeshift 0.20m

Channel 5
21:55- Big Brother: 938k (4.7%) timeshift 0.16m

Even including HD for ITV, the timeshifts it seems are very small, while a good thing as it seems most are watching live it's also a bad thing too, unless a lot more people are watching ITV1 HD nowadays.

Odd things. Although it's probably due to the clock changes, more likely.

I thought you meant like
8:00-9million
8:15-12million
8:30-8.6million

type irregular

Brilliant news for ABC. Probably the best they've had all season! And really unexpected, at least as far as I'm concerned. I thought OUAT had 'ratings bomb' written all over it.

Thats a major swing that looks like it has come out trumps for Paul Lee - they clearly put a lot of thought into the type of show that could prosper there, and have come out with female-freindly fantasy with Disney written all over it. With the benefit of hindsight, it does make sense...

Poor start for Allen Gregory. Can't see it lasting long. And is it me, or does the Seth MacFarlane double look very lacklustre in the 9pm hour?

Are you using the overnights which include same day timeshift? All those who chase play X Factor and skip the ads are in the overnights aren't they?

Surely The X Factor should be up to 2nd with its Sunday 2nd October official rating (ITV1 + ITV1HD)... ie:

Yes, I'm using the usual overnights, as you well know the 'raw' overnights are not released by media websites (only by trickytree1979 on here!).


You are correct, have changed it above.

I will assume that October 2008 was around the time that the Niall storyline and the church explosion occurred, thus the excellent ratings. That was at a time when the C4 episodes were regularly achieving 2 million and above.

I honestly can’t see the appeal of Once Upon A Time at all. I think it’s awful and filled with some clunky and heavy handed dialogue its painful but people are apparently eating it up and with hindsight that Sunday 8PM slot has been a stroke of genius. It’s not enough to reverse the overall problems at ABC though they really need a strong midseason performance but I’m not sure if they’re going to be able to manage that since it looks like NBC are going to throw everything they’ve got behind their midseason schedule and whilst it might not look like it they do have a lot to throw.

And it’s not just you that 9PM hour on Fox is very soft.

Good timeshift for Casualty. Shows that having a Merlin-lead in has accounted for an increase in ratings. The hospital drama is in good health and should theoretically be hitting between 6 and 7 million after TXF ends, and possibly the BBC might be looking at having The Voice as a lead-in to Casualty at 8pm or something, then have the National Lottery Draws after Casualty or after the news, as has been the case recently.

D M N what do u mean irregular ratings.

Does that mean higher or lower ratings for X Factor?

I really hope they don't do that.

I'd actually prefer them to pull Casualty whilst The Voice is on and try to find something 'younger' to pair with it. Post-Voice might just be the best place to try and launch a comedy or two.

Either really. (I was being sarcastic with my original 'irregular' point...)

Really? I think if they shortened Casualty's series, and ended it around April time with a good fresh revamp and with The Voice from perhaps January onwards, it could be good for the BBC. It would be suicide for the BBC to pull Casualty for Saturday nights temporarily as it is a reliable 5-6m performer. As regards to comedy, I think when Corrie goes to Wednesdays, the Thursday 8.30pm slot would be good, maybe on Saturdays at 8pm before Casualty, after TXF ends.