1975 - 1995 = music at its very best. Never again will it be like that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gFTEeD0scY
look at the variety
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gFTEeD0scY
look at the variety
Proof 1980s music is better than modern music,,,
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Originally Posted by Charcole911:
“1975 - 1995 = music at its very best. Never again will it be like that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gFTEeD0scY
look at the variety”
“1975 - 1995 = music at its very best. Never again will it be like that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gFTEeD0scY
look at the variety”
Ah I miss TOTP...well the 80s version anyway. Thursdays aren't quite the same ay. Nice to see Princess in there.
The charts now look so young in comparison don't they.
I want to find the 1985 rundown where Dead or Alive were Number 1.
Originally Posted by Glawster2002:
“I think in terms of the general population it probably does hold some water.
It wouldn't surprise me if many of those who've replied on here, and defined the era which they consider to be the best for music, would probably find it was music produced when they were around that age group..”
“I think in terms of the general population it probably does hold some water.
It wouldn't surprise me if many of those who've replied on here, and defined the era which they consider to be the best for music, would probably find it was music produced when they were around that age group..”
on here, yeah probably. the folks who post on this site in general seem to have poor taste in general, whether it's music, tv or movies, with crap like pop and soaps and reality shows more popular than more serious and credible entertainment. fortunately it's not entirely representative of the whole public. perhaps older posters are less inclined to join such as discussion after reading some of the crap that's posted
I rediscovered this the other day.
What a classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBJxE...3&feature=plcp
What a classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBJxE...3&feature=plcp
Originally Posted by Charcole911:
“1975 - 1995 = music at its very best. Never again will it be like that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gFTEeD0scY
look at the variety”
“1975 - 1995 = music at its very best. Never again will it be like that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gFTEeD0scY
look at the variety”
nah.... 75-7 was dire, 87 -94 was equally poor.
64-8 was best followed by 77-83.
Originally Posted by miles19740:
“The 80s in general was a great period for music in my view, because drum machines and keyboards dominated...awesome. Human League, Erasure, Pet Shop Boys and SAW, I salute you!
For me, one of the highlights of the 80s was that pop dominated and it was produced by talented, skilled and brilliant producers. For me, SAW were one of the best. They wrote, arranged and produced some of the best pop of the decade. Keyboard dominated, rhythmic bass lines, interesting percussive layers/ostinatos and driving four-to-the-floor bass drums were the order of the day. MMMmmm love it! Fantastic!
The arrival of grunge and britpop in the 90s was a hugely depressing time. Thin textured tracks featuring out of tune vocals and aggressive/harsh guitars and lyrics was a total turn off for me. Thankfully, Steps and others emerged out of the myer that was grunge/indie music in 1997. They offered a positive way out. They offered a bright, uplifting, positive sound which I lapped up.
Thank you Pete Waterman.”
“The 80s in general was a great period for music in my view, because drum machines and keyboards dominated...awesome. Human League, Erasure, Pet Shop Boys and SAW, I salute you!
For me, one of the highlights of the 80s was that pop dominated and it was produced by talented, skilled and brilliant producers. For me, SAW were one of the best. They wrote, arranged and produced some of the best pop of the decade. Keyboard dominated, rhythmic bass lines, interesting percussive layers/ostinatos and driving four-to-the-floor bass drums were the order of the day. MMMmmm love it! Fantastic!
The arrival of grunge and britpop in the 90s was a hugely depressing time. Thin textured tracks featuring out of tune vocals and aggressive/harsh guitars and lyrics was a total turn off for me. Thankfully, Steps and others emerged out of the myer that was grunge/indie music in 1997. They offered a positive way out. They offered a bright, uplifting, positive sound which I lapped up.
Thank you Pete Waterman.”
On the other hand I think the complete opposite. SAW with their production line songs are everything that was wrong with 80s music. Terrible covers, limited interchangable singers.
Whereas Grunge/Britpop is far, far better. There's far more texture, depth and meaning in even mediocre Britpop than there is in the entire back catalogue of the Hit factory.
Of course the truth is that there was good and bad music in every era - you only need to listen to 'Pick of the Pops' to uderstand that
Originally Posted by Watcher #1:
“On the other hand I think the complete opposite. SAW with their production line songs are everything that was wrong with 80s music. Terrible covers, limited interchangable singers.
Whereas Grunge/Britpop is far, far better. There's far more texture, depth and meaning in even mediocre Britpop than there is in the entire back catalogue of the Hit factory.
Of course the truth is that there was good and bad music in every era - you only need to listen to 'Pick of the Pops' to uderstand that”
“On the other hand I think the complete opposite. SAW with their production line songs are everything that was wrong with 80s music. Terrible covers, limited interchangable singers.
Whereas Grunge/Britpop is far, far better. There's far more texture, depth and meaning in even mediocre Britpop than there is in the entire back catalogue of the Hit factory.
Of course the truth is that there was good and bad music in every era - you only need to listen to 'Pick of the Pops' to uderstand that”
bib... shhh... dont diss saw, miles doesnt like it! lol.
most people would agree though, saw epitomise everything wrong with pop music and as they were around in the late 80's kinda disproves the op's thread header!
SAW produced many good songs, which even teenagers (such as me) enjoy listening today. Even though we weren't alive then, the fact that those songs are still listened to shows how they've transcended generations. I don't think many kids (apart from those that go to private or grammar school) know any of those britpop songs, but most kids know a lot of Kylie Minogue's early discography.
80's music for me doesn't include 87, 88 and 89, unimaginative music seemed to take over almost overnight during the latter part of 1986.
The peak of SAW and the increased use of samples, remixes along with rap and hip-hop becoming mainstream and the disappearance of 'proper' 80's acts such as Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet, The Police, Blondie, Specials, Beat, Dexy's MR, Madness, Culture Club, Jam/Style Council and Wham etc killed it for me.
Yes we all love the music of our youth, but who can deny that early 80's music was not more positive and upbeat than the negative dross that fills the charts today. The adulation of Adele astounds me, yes she has a good voice but is she doing anything different than Alison Moyet was doing in the 80's?
Maybe three good songs and they were before 1987, have you never heard of the Reynolds Girls, Devine, Sonia or Big Fun? Utter dross.
The peak of SAW and the increased use of samples, remixes along with rap and hip-hop becoming mainstream and the disappearance of 'proper' 80's acts such as Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet, The Police, Blondie, Specials, Beat, Dexy's MR, Madness, Culture Club, Jam/Style Council and Wham etc killed it for me.
Yes we all love the music of our youth, but who can deny that early 80's music was not more positive and upbeat than the negative dross that fills the charts today. The adulation of Adele astounds me, yes she has a good voice but is she doing anything different than Alison Moyet was doing in the 80's?
Originally Posted by Eric_Blob:
“SAW produced many good songs, which even teenagers (such as me) enjoy listening today. Even though we weren't alive then, the fact that those songs are still listened to shows how they've transcended generations.”
“SAW produced many good songs, which even teenagers (such as me) enjoy listening today. Even though we weren't alive then, the fact that those songs are still listened to shows how they've transcended generations.”
Maybe three good songs and they were before 1987, have you never heard of the Reynolds Girls, Devine, Sonia or Big Fun? Utter dross.
Originally Posted by Eric_Blob:
“SAW produced many good songs, which even teenagers (such as me) enjoy listening today. Even though we weren't alive then, the fact that those songs are still listened to shows how they've transcended generations. I don't think many kids (apart from those that go to private or grammar school) know any of those britpop songs, but most kids know a lot of Kylie Minogue's early discography.”
“SAW produced many good songs, which even teenagers (such as me) enjoy listening today. Even though we weren't alive then, the fact that those songs are still listened to shows how they've transcended generations. I don't think many kids (apart from those that go to private or grammar school) know any of those britpop songs, but most kids know a lot of Kylie Minogue's early discography.”
no ...what it shows is that todays 'kids' are easily satisfied with pre-packaged manufactured, karaoke, pop.
that was scorned on before the late 80's, because 'we' believed pop music should be made by artists, or made for artists who had the capacity to perform live and without autotune. i mean... creating your own music wasnt hard!
anyone under 30 has grown up with manufactured music as the staple diet of easy listening pop, because its been around youve accepted it as 'the norm'. but...just look at all of our great generic fashions and styles that has historically made the uk the richest, most diverse, bed of pop music for the last 50 years.... its music that has been created by the youth of the day, thus giving them (us) our identity, it was identifiable with each generation and it gave 'us' with a voice.
you dont get that with manufactured pop, everythings provided for by some old man.
and thats the problem with saw style manufactured tripe...even if some of it sounds good, and it does to a small extent fill a need, it doesnt define anything, it doesnt speak, it lacks identity . its no wonder that todays charts are the poorest ever, lacking imagination, identity, style, interest.
Originally Posted by Eric_Blob:
“SAW produced many good songs, which even teenagers (such as me) enjoy listening today. Even though we weren't alive then, the fact that those songs are still listened to shows how they've transcended generations. I don't think many kids (apart from those that go to private or grammar school) know any of those britpop songs, but most kids know a lot of Kylie Minogue's early discography.”
“SAW produced many good songs, which even teenagers (such as me) enjoy listening today. Even though we weren't alive then, the fact that those songs are still listened to shows how they've transcended generations. I don't think many kids (apart from those that go to private or grammar school) know any of those britpop songs, but most kids know a lot of Kylie Minogue's early discography.”
Yeah, because you never see teenagers wearing Nirvana hoodies anymore...
I can only speak for the comprehensive kids I knwo, but they know about Britpop and the likes as well as modern music
I was in my teens/20's for the 80's, it was my favourite decade and brings back so many memories of all kinds of things, though alot good sounds were made in the 70's too it seems often to that those times were when so much new music/genres were bieng discovered which is less so today (or at least it can appear that way).
it seems often to that those times were when so much new music/genres were bieng discovered which is less so today (or at least it can appear that way).
Originally Posted by Watcher #1:
“Yeah, because you never see teenagers wearing Nirvana hoodies anymore...
I can only speak for the comprehensive kids I knwo, but they know about Britpop and the likes as well as modern music”
“Yeah, because you never see teenagers wearing Nirvana hoodies anymore...
I can only speak for the comprehensive kids I knwo, but they know about Britpop and the likes as well as modern music”
No, I never see teenagers wearing Nirvana hoodies anymore.
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“no ...what it shows is that todays 'kids' are easily satisfied with pre-packaged manufactured, karaoke, pop.”
“no ...what it shows is that todays 'kids' are easily satisfied with pre-packaged manufactured, karaoke, pop.”
A lot of the pre-packaged, manufactured, karaoke pop sounds very good.
Originally Posted by Eric_Blob:
“A lot of the pre-packaged, manufactured, karaoke pop sounds very good.”
“A lot of the pre-packaged, manufactured, karaoke pop sounds very good.”
Pre packaged meals taste good at first, but they're full of crap!
Specsavers do hearing tests as well you know......
Originally Posted by keicar:
“Specsavers do hearing tests as well you know......”
“Specsavers do hearing tests as well you know......”
I think it's just down to opinion really. Hundreds of millions of people think manufactured pop music sounds good, and hundreds of millions of people think it sounds bad.
Musically, 1980s were boring, but still better than today's crud. At least, there was a wide variety of musical styles unlike today with the urban/dance stronghold.
Originally Posted by Lamaestra:
“Musically, 1980s were boring, but still better than today's crud. At least, there was a wide variety of musical styles unlike today with the urban/dance stronghold.”
“Musically, 1980s were boring, but still better than today's crud. At least, there was a wide variety of musical styles unlike today with the urban/dance stronghold.”
I Agree and even i would prefer 80's rather than the Urban/Dance crossover genres i love Dance Music but with it being fused with Urban it is Horrible and very unfriendly to the ear , it sort of damages the general dance music scene
I personally prefer the 1990's though , the music had a deep uplifting feel as did the early and mid 2000's.
Originally Posted by Eric_Blob:
“No, I never see teenagers wearing Nirvana hoodies anymore.
.”
“No, I never see teenagers wearing Nirvana hoodies anymore.
.”
I suggest you try opening your eyes while walking around town then, because there are plenty of them
The reason the 80's were so "good" -
People forgetting the shit songs that came out during that time.
People forgetting the shit songs that came out during that time.
Originally Posted by Eric_Blob:
“A lot of the pre-packaged, manufactured, karaoke pop sounds very good.”
“A lot of the pre-packaged, manufactured, karaoke pop sounds very good.”
i know, but what does it say? its a quick fix sensation with no depth.
Originally Posted by keicar:
“Pre packaged meals taste good at first, but they're full of crap!
Specsavers do hearing tests as well you know......”
“Pre packaged meals taste good at first, but they're full of crap!
Specsavers do hearing tests as well you know......”
exactly....
Originally Posted by Eric_Blob:
“I think it's just down to opinion really. Hundreds of millions of people think manufactured pop music sounds good, and hundreds of millions of people think it sounds bad.”
“I think it's just down to opinion really. Hundreds of millions of people think manufactured pop music sounds good, and hundreds of millions of people think it sounds bad.”
i doubt that 'hundereds of millions' like manufactured pop, a few thousand maybe! just look at the sales figures. 'real' music always sold well, poor music didnt, its not a coincidence that singles sales plummeted in the late 80's when saw and manufactured pop became more popular. look at the lists of greatest selling singles, manufactured pop is hardly reprisented.
Originally Posted by 16caerhos:
“The reason the 80's were so "good" -
People forgetting the shit songs that came out during that time.”
“The reason the 80's were so "good" -
People forgetting the shit songs that came out during that time.”
lol.. true to a point, there has always been shit alongside the better tracks...... but in 20 years time, looking back on todays music scene, if you take the shit out of the equasion thered be nothing left! lol
A lot of good music came out of the 1980s but there was one change at the start of the decade that I didn't think was an improvement.
That was the change to an "all electronic" sound and the disappearance of "real instruments", brass and strings etc. I suppose session musicians were an expense producers didn't want any more - but the sound wasn't the same.
These are a couple of the very last "old fashioned" records I can think of from the early 80s
Culture Club - Time - (Instrumental) 1982
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31GwpAAeIJk
France Joli - Gonna Get Over You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elLBEwi9PUE (Prelude 1981). I remember Prelude, they were distributed through CBS in this country and had several hits but I don't remember CBS issuing this one.
That was the change to an "all electronic" sound and the disappearance of "real instruments", brass and strings etc. I suppose session musicians were an expense producers didn't want any more - but the sound wasn't the same.
These are a couple of the very last "old fashioned" records I can think of from the early 80s
Culture Club - Time - (Instrumental) 1982
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31GwpAAeIJk
France Joli - Gonna Get Over You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elLBEwi9PUE (Prelude 1981). I remember Prelude, they were distributed through CBS in this country and had several hits but I don't remember CBS issuing this one.
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“i doubt that 'hundereds of millions' like manufactured pop, a few thousand maybe! just look at the sales figures. 'real' music always sold well, poor music didnt, its not a coincidence that singles sales plummeted in the late 80's when saw and manufactured pop became more popular. look at the lists of greatest selling singles, manufactured pop is hardly reprisented.”
“i doubt that 'hundereds of millions' like manufactured pop, a few thousand maybe! just look at the sales figures. 'real' music always sold well, poor music didnt, its not a coincidence that singles sales plummeted in the late 80's when saw and manufactured pop became more popular. look at the lists of greatest selling singles, manufactured pop is hardly reprisented.”
Single (download) sales are at an all time high at the moment. The sales in the singles chart are higher now than they were in the 70's or whatever.
Originally Posted by Watcher #1:
“I suggest you try opening your eyes while walking around town then, because there are plenty of them”
“I suggest you try opening your eyes while walking around town then, because there are plenty of them”
I honestly don't think I've ever seen one before. And I've never had a conversation with someone my age about Nirvana. I do live in Birmingham though, which is quite urban. There's probably a lot of teenage Nirvana fans if you go to the countryside.
Originally Posted by TranceClubber:
“I Agree and even i would prefer 80's rather than the Urban/Dance crossover genres i love Dance Music but with it being fused with Urban it is Horrible and very unfriendly to the ear , it sort of damages the general dance music scene
I personally prefer the 1990's though , the music had a deep uplifting feel as did the early and mid 2000's.”
“I Agree and even i would prefer 80's rather than the Urban/Dance crossover genres i love Dance Music but with it being fused with Urban it is Horrible and very unfriendly to the ear , it sort of damages the general dance music scene
I personally prefer the 1990's though , the music had a deep uplifting feel as did the early and mid 2000's.”
The dance music in the charts isn't combined with urban music at all. Yes, it's RnB singers doing the vocals on all the "dance" songs, but musically, all the recent dance hits have NO characteristics of RnB or hip hop or soul at all. They're literally just eurodance songs, really watered down.
Because people see Akon, Rihanna, Usher, etc. singing on all the dance hits, they think it's "combined" with RnB, but it hasn't at all. It's pure dance-pop what they're singing.
I think it's just an age thing really!
And this is not proof, it is your opinion. Every decade has 'good' and 'bad' music.
And this is not proof, it is your opinion. Every decade has 'good' and 'bad' music.
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“Taste is subjective. And personally I couldn't even stomach 2 seconds of that song OP. Much prefer modern music.”
“Taste is subjective. And personally I couldn't even stomach 2 seconds of that song OP. Much prefer modern music.”
i'm much the same as you to be honest. Today's music is what will always stand out for me as a teenager, because the music released within the last decade is music i've grown up with and i'll always remember it!
I love a lot of '80s music as well of course, particularly Whitney Houston, some Kylie stuff, Michael Jackson and the likes of Pat Benatar (Love is a Battlefield etc). However one artist whos popularity i do not understand is Madonna's. I completely respect her place in the industry and what she does, but i just don't "get" her music, particularly her '80s stuff. It just sounds overly generic, but maybe i'm wrong i don't know. *runs and hides*
If the 80's was so good why did I like the 90's better.Sorry I love Grunge it had more meaning and sumed up a time and feeling just like what Punk did in the 70's but the 80's killed it and Rock music was pop drivin crap in the 80's and guy with big hair.Don't get me wrong some good bands came out of the 80's like U2 The Smiths and some other but the rest of the time it was boring there was no Headbanger ball or MTV when it was good and played Rock music.People in the UK must think 80's life was great it was not like that it was stupid dafft and fruity people like Black Lace and crap like Falco abit like now plus there was no Extreme sports on tv or nothing.The only thing great about the 80's was Ska and Tv show like the Tube without them them it would have been so dismall and much worse Sir Cliff Richards would be on Tv and Radio non stop.The way I see it the 80's are abit like now but much wose no direction and there is no future and Englands still dreaming no future for us Cher LLyold Blah.:yawn::sleep:
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