Originally Posted by jjjexhaustedfan:
“I hadn't even noticed that the thread was due to be changed. I hope Cheeky can bring her post over, because not many people here today and will not have seen it.
I am not meant to be here. Supposed to be gardening, so only popped on to look at the article.
So will look at Cheeky's transcript this evening.”
Just copied it here
Cheeky's transcript
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“Live feed Night 14 pt 1
*After a brief discussion with Ife and Steve on whether it is gurgling or gargling (they decide upon the latter) John informs Dave "you look tired, wiz!" Dave says he is 'whacked!' John asks "did they give you a bit of jungle juice in there?" Dave was in the Diary room for ages! John says he's only been called in once since they got there and Ife says it's because he always presses the buzzer - but walks away. John "you can't have the best of both worlds!"
*John criticises Sunshine's hair (it is up in a ponytail and doesn't look the greatest) Josie praises John as she thinks his hair 'has looked quite nice the last few days ..it makes you look quite handsome.' John is pleased to hear this “thanks”. Such flattery only succeeds to irk Sunshine "don't change the subject to complimenting his hair when he's dissing mine! If anything that's the perfect time to diss his hair!" John's hair was only diss-able when it looked like a mop-a-top mullet!
*Shabby and Caoimhe are stealing Sunshine's possessions from the bedroom and the camera keeps flicking between this and Sunshine, John and Josie in the kitchen. Sunshine smirks "careful Josie you're edging towards John having to give me a compliment!" The girls and Govan persuade Mario to clear out Sunshine's drawer too! Josie sings merrily away to herself while washing up at the sink.
*Shabby is surprised at Josie's story that after she had an injection tan her hair and nails really grew. She never had nails before this tan! Josie also discovered once she'd started wearing her hair curly instead of straight it had been growing more quickly. Mid-way through the conversation, Josie stands up to shout "OMG!! Who's been mashing up my yard? Have a look!"
*Govan inquires Josie on why she has been smoking so much in the house if she's not normally a smoker. Josie answers that she only does when she's on a bender, at the weekend or she might have 1 or 2 in the week "but if you were stuck in the Big Brother house and there was f--k all to do you would as well!" Govan cites that he hates smoking and wishes he could stop. Josie says she'll try when the fags run out for everyone's sakes... that never happened!! Although when she first came out of BB she cut right down to 1 or 2 a day, I wonder how she is doing with that now..
*Josie wonders why HM's are being called in to discuss nominations and worries "you don't reckon they'll tell them who nominated them, do you?"
JOSIE: (Reveals) Do you know what I would love more than anything else in this house? For John James to stop speaking through his nose!! (They all crack up) he gets so mad with me, don't he? (because Josie tells John that he does this)
GOVAN: I reckon it's gonna look like there's some kind of love going on between you two!
JOSIE: Yeah, I know it does..
GOVAN: You're always teasing each other!
JOSIE: And I swear today I've been following him about a little bit.. I just said to him then in the kitchen 'John have I been following you around?' And he said 'no I've been following you around as well!' And I was like 'good!' Cos I don't wanna look like a desperate whore!"
CAOIMHE: You could give him a little kiss!"
JOSIE: (Adamant) NO! I don't know why but I feel about 25 years older than John James!"
GOVAN (winds her up) Blah, blah, blahhhh!
JOSIE: It'd be like kissing a kid, wouldn't it? It'd be like kissing somebody who's just walked out of the school gates! Waiting for him at half past three?" (Laughs and then sticks her thumb straight in her mouth and sucks away) Ice cream, John James?
Govan, it didn't just LOOK like there was some kind of love going on .. there WAS an incredible love going on .. I'm not sure if they hadn't realised it at this point or were just suppressing the way they felt and trying to deny it .. but even the other HM's picked up on the chemistry between the pair. Those who watched live feed were well that something special was starting to sparkle here; while those just watching HL's didn't have even the smallest inkling! The way Josie was edited in the first few weeks to look like a desperate bunny boiler made my blood bubble up and my earlobes steam!!!! It was always a two-way, mutually reciprocated 'thing' even if John and Josie couldn't see this right away or didn't want to admit this.
*Dave and Ben are having a gabfest over Ben and how entertaining he may come across to the public:
JOHN: Whether they see that or not out there I'm not sure .. even the way he sings songs and the way he describes things. EVERYTHING about him is funny!
John agrees with Dave that Ben is quirky and has a shot of winning!
JOHN: (Imitates the way Ben twitches his head) Everything he does is HILARIOUS!
John determines that the way Ben is perceived depends on how much BB goes into their arguments - the viewers might have seen it Dave's way or Govan's. John believes Mario is safe and that he would be against most people in the house "just because of his personality in general. He's genuine..
STEVE :Ife is great!
JOHN: (agrees) She's real nice, yeah. I'm glad she's sorta moving away (from Caoimhe and Shabby) Cos that's what I wanted from the start and it's good that she wants that too - I was like 'good on ya!' She told them she didn't wanna talk about what they do ALL the time .. Straight up! They weren't happy about it (laughs) she was honest. I'm glad because she's so nice and you wouldn't expect that.. for her to say that. She was dead on and she's entitled to do that!
Dave and John say they don't know who they would have swapped themselves with on the board.
DAVE: It was a tough one, wasn't it?
JOHN: For me, it would have had to be a process of elimination .. all you know is who you wouldn't.
Ife enters the room and asks John if she can borrow some of something of his. He asks in his Bristralian way, "are you trying to embarrass me on the TV?" but he gives his consent all the same.
JOHN: (Calling out as he walks out of the bedroom) What did you do with my towels?
JOSIE: (Can be heard, off screen responding) Why are you looking at me? (Seemingly she is the person John suspects.)
GOVAN: (Professes their innocence) We're not involved! When you kick off just realise we're not involved .. Well, I'm not involved!
John is in the bedroom furiously searching for his towels.
JOHN: (Abruptly yells) Are you F-----G serious?!! What the f.. sorry guys .. (apologising to those trying to sleep in the bedroom, then leaves) What's happened guys? What's happened?!
The second he is gone Sunshine 'fesses up to Corin that “they took mine so I took his!” (pillow) Such a sweetie pea, isn't she?
A lightning bolt strikes in John's head realises that Sunshine must have pinched his pillow. Govan tells Shabby at sofas (of John while John's arms are flailing around) “problem .. he always talks, talks, talks .. you can never get in!” (ad break)
*John and Josie have commenced a game of sockball in the lounge. John admits to Josie how he says he's going to the toilet and then runs out of the club (when he doesn't want to hurt a girl's feelings if they like him.)
JOSIE (horrified) OMG! Talk about knocking someone's confidence! You can't do things like that, John!
JOHN: (Stammers) but I can't bear.. I'd rather that than look at .. Look at their reaction if I said no.. So I just run out the club then I ring my mate and I say "I'm out in the car" and they say 'what are you doing?' And I say 'I can't go back in there .. Are we gonna go to a different club? I'll just hang out here and then..
JOSIE: (Still stunned at the revelation) Bet your mates think you're so weird!
JOHN: (Feels he has to explain further) Because I couldn't go back into the club knowing that (giggles) I just feel too bad!"
JOSIE: You're .. You're weird!"
JOHN: But how are you meant to say no to someone .. That's why I couldn't .."
JOSIE: Just say you've got a girlfriend!
JOHN: Yeah, I've lied about that before! (Laughs) but um.. That's why I feel really strange with the whole um..
WOAH, WHAT???? WAIT … John, actually acknowledges that he HAS lied!!! Yet, some of his extremist fans (and I'm NOT referring to our friends next door) allege that Saint John would NEVER lie about anything, ever! John IS a bolter – when situations get too hard for him to handle he has to get the hell away, to hide. Him leaving likely dented Josie's confidence massively .. and in turn, John's confidence in both himself and his feelings of security in their relationship had clearly plummeted to for him to feel that it was necessary for him to leave. I remember he said in their final OK interview that he suggested staying in London with JJ .. although on TSAJ he told JJ instantly that he was going back to Australia (though how that scene was edited and manipulated, I'm not sure .. conversation will be missing and John may have considered remaining in London AFTER this took place and before the interview was given)
While I remain a believer that John's intentions were always to come back to the UK for Josie (but that intention was quickly vanquished due to incidents after him crossing the ocean) from this conversation I can see why some are convinced that he never planned to return. I won't ever know for certain what was in his heart when he promised Josie he'd be back for her .. and nor do I need to .. but I KNOW I saw great love and sadness in his eyes when he eventually left her at the airport. That wasn't the outcome he had wanted in their relationship .. he wanted it to work .. it just all got too much for them ..
JOSIE: (Admonishes) Just be flattered! I don't know why you got to..
JOHN: I didn't say I wasn't flattered (about Sunshine fancying him) I didn't say that..
JOSIE: But you feel strange? I think Sunshine's only joking! (don't think she was, love)
JOHN: Yeah but it still puts me .. It makes me feel uncomfortable, yeah.. What if she wasn't? She's like "don't you think I'm good looking, John?" What the hell am I meant to say to that?! As if I'm going to answer that!
JOSIE: Yeah.. Say 'yeah, I think you are good-looking.'
JOHN: But then she might go 'alright then let's get the mac daddy swerve on!"
JOSIE: Um.. I don't think Sunshine's the type of girl that would say that, John!
JOHN: Well she's said everything else, why not throw that in there?" (Looks like John is cheekily checking Josie out as she bends forward to pick up the sockball!)
JOSIE: (Teasing) Well if she is gonna be a doctor she's gonna have a bit of money in the bank!
JOHN: Oh, cos that means a lot (!) (They laugh) what's that got to do with the price of fish?
Josie wants to play with the smaller ball as it may be harder. The larger size has become too easy for them to throw and catch.
JOSIE: (Warns) I can do this all night, mind!
JOHN: (Fishes for info) Um.. I reckon you could get it on with Nathan by the time the series is over! (Josie looks repulsed!!)I reckon I'll go reasonably early and I reckon by the time the series is over I reckon..
JOSIE: (Standoffish) NO.
JOHN: You don't fancy him in that way?
JOSIE: No.
JOHN: I thought.. I thought you did.
JOSIE: (Peeved)Er who told you that?
JOHN: No-one I'm just .. I just.. I just thought you did.
JOSIE: (confirms once more) No.
JOHN: Why?
JOSIE: I don't know.. Cos I don't. What gave you the impression I did anyway?
JOHN: Um.. Nah.. I just thought.. I thought .. I thought.. Maybe you would fancy him .. (all the while praying with all his soul that she didn't!!)
JOSIE: (Puzzled) What made you think that?
JOHN: Cause you said you like unique guys.. He's the only person I've ever met with a monobrow .. A proper one! A real one! I've only ever seen cartoons .. And when you said you like unique guys I thought.. Yeah, he fits the criteria .. He's not a bad looking bloke..
JOSIE: Yeah I know, he's a good looking guy.. That's like me saying to you.. You might get it on with Sunshine.
JOHN: Is that the same thing?
JOSIE: Well Sunshine's a good looking girl .. He's just not.. I'm really fond of Nathan but..
JOHN: (Hearing what he had HOPED she was saying) You're really fond of me? What?
JOSIE: (Confirms it not to be the case) I'm really fond of Nathan but.. Not like that..
JOHN: (Jests) Yeah, alright. Settle down! You got all funny about that, didn't ya?"
JOSIE: Yeah, I know cos everybody thinks that..
JOHN: (Hadn't caught on to this) Oh, do they?!
JOSIE: No.. Everybody thinks cos like you talk to somebody ..
JOHN: (Starting to feel bad) Nah, I didn't mean to make you feel uncomfortable.. Relax!
JOSIE: No, I'm not! But..
JOHN: Cos I didn't say anything about Gov .. When you talk to Go a lot.
JOSIE: Yeah but I think that's different .. That's different.
JOHN: Oh, is it?
JOSIE: Course it is!" (John "oh!") I wanted to tell you something but I can't.. (John - hey?) I wanted to tell you something but I couldn't.. (she possibly wanted to confide in him about Govan's sexuality)
JOHN: Why?"
JOSIE: (mumbles) Because um.. They don't want no-one knowing..
JOHN: Pardon?
JOSIE: Nothing! .. I'll tell you on the outside world..
JOHN: You'll tell me everything on the outside world.. (SC) is it to do with Nate? Is it to do with Nate? (Maybe thinking she just doesn't want to admit liking Nathan IN front of cameras?)
JOSIE: Noo..
JOHN: Well.. Do you.. Do you not want people knowing? (Misunderstanding why she is being so secretive)
JOSIE: Well.. I don't ..
JOHN: (Observes) You're private in some ways aren't ya?.. (Repeats this) but in other ways you're really, really open!
JOSIE: That's because it's not about me! That's why.. I don't care about myself.. (John 'huh's) It's not about me!! Yeah I don't care about myself .. But I wouldn't ever disrespect someone..
JOHN: (Catches a clue) Oh, is it about someone?
JOSIE: Yeah!
JOHN: Okay, that's fair enough.
JOSIE: Oh NO! (John wants to know "what?")I didn't realise Nathan was in there (She's noticed he is in the kitchen)
JOHN: Why? Nuh I was being serious! I wasn't trying to set something up or anything I was just saying.. (Setting that up was the last thing he wanted. He was laying some groundwork, to try and discover her feelings towards Nathan and see if HE was in with a chance)
JOSIE: (Exclaims) Everybody else is!
JOHN: Everybody else is saying..?
JOSIE: Trying to set it up! (Much to her disdain)
JOHN: Oh I didn't mean anything by it.. I didn't know you were gonna get all funny about it!
JOSIE: I'm not funny about it..
JOHN: I was just asking (Josie again says she's not funny about it) .. Alright! No I didn't know everyone else was doing that..
JOSIE: You're about the 3rd person who's said that to me!
JOHN: (Sincerely apologetic) Oh sorry.
JOSIE: No, I don't mind. I don't care!
JOHN: No, I feel bad now!
JOSIE: Whyyy?
JOHN: Oh cos I don't like it when people talk about.. (Sunshine) Cos it makes me feel uncomfortable so.. I thought I was probably the only one that woulda said that but..
JOSIE: Obviously everyone's my husband but.. To be the REAL husband, yeah John? You've gotta be pretty different! (John is listening intently, processing everything Josie has told him) .. I just like um.. But the thing is with me.. I LOVE male company!
JOHN: Yeah..
JOSIE: I like being around men.
JOHN: (permits) You can talk to and hang around whoever you want.. (Josie sighs "yeah)I don't think that every person.. Every guy that you talk to.. You fancy!"
JOSIE: Mm (and sucks her thumb) but I swear like..
JOHN: I didn't think that at all .. I just thought maybe..
JOSIE: No .. I swear on the outside world people must think I'm a riiight get around because I hang around with so many men! So they probably think 'ooh look at her..
JOHN: (Assures) Nah people can see that you prefer the company of men.. People can see that! There's nothing wrong with that!
JOSIE: Oh is it? People see that, do you?
JOHN: Yeah, for sure!! You haven't done anything .. What have you done? I've shaved your arms and painted your nails.. What else have you done apart from that? (Digging to see if she has done anything with other male HM's that could be construed as her liking one) what else have you done that would symbolise that you fancy anyone .. Anyone in here.. Except for friends? (To see what his status is?)
JOSIE: Mm! Wow! Did you see that? (Impressed at her own good catch)
JOHN (Nods and returns to the matter at hand) You've done a couple diary room entries about me but people will know you're p---ing about! So.. Apart from that what..
JOSIE: What? Our lovers tiff?!
JOHN: Yeah like.. As if anyone's gonna think that you're like that! Look what we're doing .. You're throwing a ball!
JOSIE: Yeah, I know. I don't mean it in that way ..
JOHN: Ah, I was gonna say .. Don't worry about being ..
JOSIE: Does it look like I just hang around with the blokes?
JOHN: (matter-of-factly)Yeah.
JOSIE: Does it?!
JOHN: (Clarifies) Nuh .. Not just! But it looks like you prefer.. Not prefer .. That you get along better with guys.. What's wrong with that? It's cos you were brought up with heaps of um.. Heaps of male people so..
JOSIE: Yeah because I don't look at men and women as being any different.. But I think sometimes..
JOHN: No, neither do I! (Louder) neither do I!!
JOSIE: .. You do!
JOHN: I don't. Do you think I get along with blokes better? (Josie does think so) I probably get along with you 1 of the best in the house though.
JOSIE: Yeah, I know.. But I'm a bit different, aren't I? I'm a bit of a bloke..
JOHN: (This was your cue to say NO, Mr Parton!!) Um... See um .. Ife isn't! And I get along with Ife .. Well I'd like to get along better with her but..
JOSIE: Have you got a lot of female friends outside of here?
JOHN: Urrmm.. Not.. Obviously I've got more male friends.. But yeah! But it gets a bit funny.. (Josie - why?) Because normally..
JOSIE: (guesses correctly) They end up becoming a fan?
JOHN: Yeah!
JOSIE: Do they?!
JOHN: Yeah.
JOSIE: (Flirts) I'll try not to, John!
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