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The Matt Cardle Appreciation Thread (Part 38)
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Crabbie123
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by Cardlescardie:
“That is very interesting. For someone who is a bit off with the pixies at times, he does seem to have a good grip on stuff like this. What struck me is that Matt's tour will be at the same time as the XF tour - I'm assuming plenty of people will do both (not us lot though!) and it will be interesting how people compare the two. It's also a kind of symmetry (sad Maths teacher here) in that there seems to have been a cycle of busy Autumn, Spring tour, quiet Summer. Do we expect Matt to then go back in the studio and work on another album next summer? If so, I am really hoping they go for a summer single that will have a better chance of making number 1 like 1D and Cher did without albums coming out a week later. I know it isn't the be all and end all, but I just want him to have that. Or will he set off around the globe? I suppose someone will judge what his sales are in other countries and make a judgement about this.

Completely selfishly I'd rather he stayed here!!! Flight phobia, twitter sightings etc. Come here Matt - we'll look after ya!”

He does seem very vague about most stuff other than skate-boarding & music - but he is surrounded by people who should be financially astute. His dad runs his own business and I am sure I have read that all 4 surrogate brothers are merchant bankers. Even if Matt himself were to be a bit naive commercially, he has plenty of people who care about him who would be ensuring that he didn't come out of this having been shafted by his label - plenty do, E17 had nothing when it all came to an end, despite some massive sales at the time. One of the boys said that they had no idea that the chauffeur driven limos etc was coming out of the contract money. I think the fact that Matt uses public transport so much is also telling.
JaMaK
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by Cardlescardie:
“That is very interesting. For someone who is a bit off with the pixies at times, he does seem to have a good grip on stuff like this. What struck me is that Matt's tour will be at the same time as the XF tour - I'm assuming plenty of people will do both (not us lot though!) and it will be interesting how people compare the two. It's also a kind of symmetry (sad Maths teacher here) in that there seems to have been a cycle of busy Autumn, Spring tour, quiet Summer. Do we expect Matt to then go back in the studio and work on another album next summer? If so, I am really hoping they go for a summer single that will have a better chance of making number 1 like 1D and Cher did without albums coming out a week later. I know it isn't the be all and end all, but I just want him to have that. Or will he set off around the globe? I suppose someone will judge what his sales are in other countries and make a judgement about this.

Completely selfishly I'd rather he stayed here!!! Flight phobia, twitter sightings etc. Come here Matt - we'll look after ya!”

oh me too Cardie. TBH, my hunch is that I don't think Matt wants an international career and all that goes with it. I think he wants a proper life too and would be happier with a lower-key but steady career that allows him to pay his way in the world as well as giving something back to his parents and family. I'll certainly be more than happy to continue supporting him in that.
Cardoodle
27-10-2011
JaMak & Cardie love your posts..deep and meaningful stuff I remember being quite angry that RFYL didn't have that much promo and didn't quite get why.... I had never taken much interest before following Matt. Cardie love the image of Matt 'being off with the pixies' .... that's a true musician for you eh?..I think you're right Matt has been around the business for years and he knows the score and I think he knows exactly what he wants..He also knows he has to walk before he can run..I loved the comment about having strings on tour with him when he can afford it!...It's going to be great to watch him get bigger and better and amass the following he truly deserves
DenJ
27-10-2011
Theres a snippet about Matt in the paper today (Gordon Smart):-

MATT CARDLE is trying hard for Indie credibility - but he's also been getting inspiration elsewhere. Matt went to watch SIR CLIFF RICHARD in concert on Tuesday, claiming it was because one of his mates was dancing at the gig. Bet he can't get enough of Living Doll though

I'm surprised we didn't get to hear about this. I wonder who was dancing?
DenJ
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by Cardoodle:
“JaMak & Cardie love your posts..deep and meaningful stuff I remember being quite angry that RFYL didn't have that much promo and didn't quite get why.... I had never taken much interest before following Matt. Cardie love the image of Matt 'being off with the pixies' .... that's a true musician for you eh?..I think you're right Matt has been around the business for years and he knows the score and I think he knows exactly what he wants..He also knows he has to walk before he can run..I loved the comment about having strings on tour with him when he can afford it!...It's going to be great to watch him get bigger and better and amass the following he truly deserves”

Its certainly going to be a very interesting and enjoyable journey following Matt's career
Dan-Bevis
27-10-2011
In regards to earlier comments.

- Yes I'd loved Sparks to have been on the album too [simply because it was better than Run... and people may not even know it exists - I know I didn't until, like, a week before the album came out]! Don't know whether Run... would've been as good free promotional single [disregarding who wrote it here] instead though.

- I'd like a Matt calendar. Preferably all of him shirtless, or better...
JaMaK
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by Cardoodle:
“JaMak & Cardie love your posts..deep and meaningful stuff I remember being quite angry that RFYL didn't have that much promo and didn't quite get why.... I had never taken much interest before following Matt. Cardie love the image of Matt 'being off with the pixies' .... that's a true musician for you eh?..I think you're right Matt has been around the business for years and he knows the score and I think he knows exactly what he wants..He also knows he has to walk before he can run..I loved the comment about having strings on tour with him when he can afford it!...It's going to be great to watch him get bigger and better and amass the following he truly deserves”

lol - we're just trying to get the sensible stuff out of the way before the watershed smatty hour (not that I ever participate in that of-course)
Cardoodle
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by Vix1:
“I have tickets!

Birmingham, circle row b - that'll do nicely

Taking nearly 13 year old, so i think front of circle is better for him than halfway back in stalls. Symphony Hall accoustics are wonderful - very excited.”

well done Vix
BrokenBromance
27-10-2011
I noticed that people have said Rhyl is a bit out of the way and Matt has two dates there, I assume from this that those gigs are the next step from the Scottish gigs in that they are a safer place to get early hiccups, or nerves, dealt with.
DenJ
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by Vix1:
“I have tickets!

Birmingham, circle row b - that'll do nicely

Taking nearly 13 year old, so i think front of circle is better for him than halfway back in stalls. Symphony Hall accoustics are wonderful - very excited.”

Thats good news
Cardlescardie
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by Dan-Bevis:
“In regards to earlier comments.

- Yes I'd loved Sparks to have been on the album too [simply because it was better than Run... and people may not even know it exists - I know I didn't until, like, a week before the album came out]! Don't know whether Run... would've been as good free promotional single [disregarding who wrote it here] instead though.

- I'd like a Matt calendar. Preferably all of him shirtless, or better... ”

You'll fit in just fine around here - we seem to be like minded! *All about the music - coughs*
Cardoodle
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by JaMaK:
“lol - we're just trying to get the sensible stuff out of the way before the watershed smatty hour (not that I ever participate in that of-course) ”

Me neither....Looks like smattyman has started already
spiralthreads
27-10-2011
Nice that they're discussing Matt and his album on R2
Cardlescardie
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by JaMaK:
“oh me too Cardie. TBH, my hunch is that I don't think Matt wants an international career and all that goes with it. I think he wants a proper life too and would be happier with a lower-key but steady career that allows him to pay his way in the world as well as giving something back to his parents and family. I'll certainly be more than happy to continue supporting him in that.”

I'm *hunching* along with you. When he says things like how upset he was when Sarah was away in the summer, and the fact that he doesn't feel quite right in that Chelsea flat, I just think he wants to settle with friends and family and feel fulfilled with his music.

A long way ahead I can see him being a professional song writer away from the limelight.

*hunches off*
JaMaK
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by BrokenBromance:
“I noticed that people have said Rhyl is a bit out of the way and Matt has two dates there, I assume from this that those gigs are the next step from the Scottish gigs in that they are a safer place to get early hiccups, or nerves, dealt with.”

That was my thinking too BB. I would really like to go for the symbolic thing of going to the first and last gigs, but now that I'm going to Manchester with my niece, I shall have to be sensible and give it miss. BUT .... if there was REALLY to be a Cardlevan I would be sorely tempted
Cardoodle
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by BrokenBromance:
“I noticed that people have said Rhyl is a bit out of the way and Matt has two dates there, I assume from this that those gigs are the next step from the Scottish gigs in that they are a safer place to get early hiccups, or nerves, dealt with.”

I agree, Rhyl isn't that big a seaside town, so should be intimate, although the Pavilion is a decent size (1031 seats) I'm hoping to get tickets for the first one..already got tickets for Liverpool right at the front, so will be interesting to see the difference
BrokenBromance
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by spiralthreads:
“Nice that they're discussing Matt and his album on R2”

I'm listening now but I missed that bit, what did they say

WOW
JaMaK
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by Cardoodle:
“I agree, Rhyl isn't that big a seaside town, so should be intimate, although the Pavilion is a decent size (1031 seats) I'm hoping to get tickets for the first one..already got tickets for Liverpool right at the front, so will be interesting to see the difference”

was it you that's also going to Manchester Cardoodle? Think I've got muddled up - oh maybe it was Happ-Jackie??
Cardoodle
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by Cardlescardie:
“I'm *hunching* along with you. When he says things like how upset he was when Sarah was away in the summer, and the fact that he doesn't feel quite right in that Chelsea flat, I just think he wants to settle with friends and family and feel fulfilled with his music.

A long way ahead I can see him being a professional song writer away from the limelight.

*hunches off*”

I get where you're coming from Cardie..but I don't want your last hunch to be right...I need to hear that voice!!!
I think he enjoys singing too much to take a back seat while someone else sings his songs...I wouldn't be surprised if he goes to the US at some point..they are going to love him (especially 'acoustic Matt'), he already has a fan base there..although I'd much rather he stayed here, just my opinion and I don't know that much about all this tbh...sorry if I'm rambling
spiralthreads
27-10-2011
Walking on Water

Originally Posted by JaMaK:
“oh me too Cardie. TBH, my hunch is that I don't think Matt wants an international career and all that goes with it. I think he wants a proper life too and would be happier with a lower-key but steady career that allows him to pay his way in the world as well as giving something back to his parents and family. I'll certainly be more than happy to continue supporting him in that.”

Originally Posted by DenJ:
“Theres a snippet about Matt in the paper today (Gordon Smart):-

MATT CARDLE is trying hard for Indie credibility - but he's also been getting inspiration elsewhere. Matt went to watch SIR CLIFF RICHARD in concert on Tuesday, claiming it was because one of his mates was dancing at the gig. Bet he can't get enough of Living Doll though

I'm surprised we didn't get to hear about this. I wonder who was dancing?”

I thought I saw a mention of this further up the thread

Originally Posted by Cardlescardie:
“I'm *hunching* along with you. When he says things like how upset he was when Sarah was away in the summer, and the fact that he doesn't feel quite right in that Chelsea flat, I just think he wants to settle with friends and family and feel fulfilled with his music.

A long way ahead I can see him being a professional song writer away from the limelight.

*hunches off*”

OK, Psychic Sue says: I think he will end up as a songwriter doing occasional intimate gigs, but also think he would like to conquer the world at least briefly first so don't expect him to stay here once he's up and running. It will probably be a brief moment in his life though, around five years, before he settles down, has children etc. Another ambition he may have just acquired is to do a Peter Gabriel type tour (if you listened to him in concert you'll know what I mean).

*puts crystal ball away*
BrokenBromance
27-10-2011
Matt still 6 in today's update
mitacond
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by Cardlescardie:
“You'll fit in just fine around here - we seem to be like minded! *All about the music - coughs*”

LOL of course we do music all the way LOL Oh dear Dan you one of us.
mitacond
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by BrokenBromance:
“Matt still 6 in today's update”

BB that is brilliant ......I noticed on his FB that people are buying the album. I am sure that many were not aware it was on sale.
DS Forum Support
27-10-2011
This thread is continued here: The Matt Cardle Appreciation Thread (Part 39)
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