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EE: The Millers Appreciation Thread
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Loopy Lisa Chez
23-09-2004
I think this family are great on EE and I do not know why the press hate them for Rosie is fab Keith is funny and Demi and Darren are giving EE what they were missing teens of a certain age.
Goldilocks
23-09-2004
Originally Posted by Loopy Lisa Chez:
“I think this family are great on EE and I do not know why the press hate them for Rosie is fab Keith is funny and Demi and Darren are giving EE what they were missing teens of a certain age.”

I think Rosie is very good. As with a lot of families she is the glue that holds it together. She cooks, cleans, shops, cares for, fights for her family. And in turn she gets damn all help but still for some reason can't see that her "husband" is a lazy fecker. Her kids run rings around her but she won't let anyone say anything against them. In a lot of ways she reminds me of Pauline Fowler. I think they will either be arch enemies (because they are so alike and don't like the bad bits they see) or will become best friends. They have a lot in common with the pregnant teenage daughter etc.
Keith does very little for me. He could be and might end up being a great character in time but at the moment nothing. I like Micky though always have done. The kids are good actors too.
Artie Fischal
23-09-2004
The bloke who plays the dad can't act.

The whole family are a turn off.

For once I agree with the TV critics.
Lenfairclough
23-09-2004
I think they are dreadful. A really unoriginal lot. They are simply a meshing of the Battersbys, the Duckworths and the Dingles but without the warmness or empathy of those clans. They have absolutely no redeeming features so far. Maybe someone should explain to the mother that acting and shouting are not the same thing. While I conceed that they may settle in and be accepted I dont think they are going to save EE from its current hell. EE is further up the creek and has dropped the paddle!
Minnie Caldwell
23-09-2004
I think they could be okay if they became less like characatures and more like real people. Like LenFairclough says, they've shown no redeeming features so far, just general awfulness so it's hard to sympathise with them.
Lenfairclough
23-09-2004
Originally Posted by Minnie Caldwell:
“I think they could be okay if they became less like characatures and more like real people. Like LenFairclough says, they've shown no redeeming features so far, just general awfulness so it's hard to sympathise with them.”

I think sympathise is the word. For example although the Battersbys are bloody awful in many ways they have great comic value tempered with genuine humanity. Les has always genuinely loved his daughteres and now Chesney. So far the Millers dont seem to have anything like this. I also dont get a chemistry between them as a family. the best soap families have this chemistry. the McDonalds, the Grimshaws and the Barlows. the Mitchells, the Watts and once upon a time the Slaters. the Millers dont have this and usually it is there from the go.

I also hink the dad is a rip off of Onslow in Keeping Up Appearances
KidA
23-09-2004
Eastenders needs a bunch of unemployed loosers who's kids bunk off school and steal regularly from their community around them like they need Louise Berridge in charge.
julieannu
23-09-2004
I liked them until I saw Demi being so horrible to Lucy. Maybe they'll get better.
Porcupine
23-09-2004
I cant stand them ... and i find it funny how this thread has so many replies
alan45
23-09-2004
Originally Posted by Porcupine:
“I cant stand them ... and i find it funny how this thread has so many replies ”

Perhaps if it had been called The Millers are woeful then there would have been lots of replies. They started of quite well but have went downhill ever since * stands by for the wrath of the EE tweenies*

If they were meant as the big saviours of Deadenders they have failed miserably. Oh dear what next. Oh yes I forgot the sensational car bomb story bowing up a stategic target like chez fowler PMSL
Jumpy
23-09-2004
I think they are ok, but I did not see them as the big saviour for EE, maybe that is why I quite like them. Saying that, Demi is a little cow but she is supposed to be but the kids are thick.

Oh let's bunk off school...lets sit around the place we live because mum is at work and won't catch us...hold on, Mum AND Dad are unemplyed. Still, let's sit where we will obviously be found!
Lemonade
23-09-2004
rosie is doing great acting. keep it up.
chocopop
23-09-2004
I like the kids and the mum, but the dad cant act... Over time I may grow to like them (I hope)

Right now, they are OK. Ferrairas are worse...
Sweet Cherry
23-09-2004
I think the Millers were what EE needed anything too see less of them Borriera's
TheWalfordOne
23-09-2004
People are harsh on them for no reason. The reasons given on here have been pathetic. They've been on the show for three weeks. When the Slaters arrived, I hated them. When the Jacksons arrived I thought they were a scummy bunch of no-hopers. I haven't taken such a disliking to the Millers at all (after the Slaters 'big launch' week, with Little Mo crying about a chair, and Mo and Pat jurling abuse across the Square, I thought the show was done for), and can see merit in the characters (with the exception of the dad). The kids can act (compare to Peter and Lucy, they're like RSC escapees), and I think there is a warmth from Rosie (remember the scene where she was trying to get a moment to herself before the party... this isn't just a harridan at a constant level of scream, like Kat Slater was when she first arrived).

Half the people on here (such as, in this case, alan), come across like they want them to fail so they have something to complain about. If that's not what you mean, as I suspect you'll come out and say, then words need to be picked with a little more care...
alan45
23-09-2004
Originally Posted by TheWalfordOne:
“Half the people on here (such as, in this case, alan), come across like they want them to fail so they have something to complain about. If that's not what you mean, as I suspect you'll come out and say, then words need to be picked with a little more care...”

I certainly dont want them to fail because I want EE back to the glory days but so far they have been a disappointment. I think they were over hyped which isnt their fault but the fault of the EE publicity machine.

As I have said on a lot of threads here when EE returns to its former glory I will be one of the first to sing its praises. I will surprise everyone on here and start a thread about how good it is.

I am sorry that I cant have the blind faith of some of the other OTT posters on here. So watch this space for Alan45s EE is Brill post
jamesrlaming
23-09-2004
well i actually like this miller family, it seems all new characters in the square are doing great. the two youngest children are funny to watch, i like the way the writers have them being so close to each other all ther time and not arguing like any other brother and sister. i like the dad, hes simple and layed back, a rosie is very funny, i like it when she starts an arguemnet with soemone, liek today when she took teh dog in the cafe.

overall im glad they was written in, they had a better entrance than normal families would, and i hope this family stays together, like the slaters were the strongets family in the soap and now they are hardly in it.
Cookie-L
23-09-2004
Originally Posted by alan45:
“I certainly dont want them to fail because I want EE back to the glory days but so far they have been a disappointment. I think they were over hyped which isnt their fault but the fault of the EE publicity machine.

As I have said on a lot of threads here when EE returns to its former glory I will be one of the first to sing its praises. I will surprise everyone on here and start a thread about how good it is.

I am sorry that I cant have the blind faith of some of the other OTT posters on here. So watch this space for Alan45s EE is Brill post ”

I'd agree with this. I used to love EE, and when it gets back to how it once was, I'm sure I will love it again and will be able to post on how good it is. Alan, I and others shall keep our eyes peeled for you "EE is Brill" post, and I understand it when you say you only criticise it now and are quite willing to give it praise when it deserves it.
TheWalfordOne
24-09-2004
Originally Posted by Lifeisacookie:
“I'd agree with this. I used to love EE, and when it gets back to how it once was, I'm sure I will love it again and will be able to post on how good it is. Alan, I and others shall keep our eyes peeled for your "EE is Brill" post, and I understand it when you say you only criticise it now and are quite willing to give it praise when it deserves it.”

I can feel my verbose tingling... You see, who is to say when the defining mark will be? I've personally thought that there has been a quality within the show that has filled the 'hollowness' that left it squandering at the top of the year. I think it deserves credit now, not by any means for people to sing from the rooftops how brilliant it is, but to recognise how the reins have tightened considerably. What, and I don't believe this is a question that can be realistically answered (even though I know people will), do people actually want from the show? We've become a very demanding lot, insisting that so-and-so gets axed (because we don't like them), that story-lines get dropped (because we don't like them), that production people get sacked, etc etc etc. Although i'm optimistic now the Berridge has gone that the show can pick up, but what has it actually changed? Has she taken the whole writing team with her? Or should we start calling from all of them to be sacked too? because they are the one step closer to the actual giving us what we see on the screen.

...at the end of the day, there have always been characters I haven't liked, and plots I haven't liked. But why should I insist a character gets axed when someone else might legitimately love them? And what reason do I have then to go on an insult that other person because of our opposing views? None what so ever. At all. And yet this is happening day after day here on this board. So I wonder, not that I have an agenda against alan (honest, guv) even though you do crop up alot in my posts, why alan45's "EE is Brill" post is going to be what categorises EastEnders as not crap, when I equally legitimately think it isn't already.

If you don't like EastEnders for any reason, then i'm afraid that's tough titties to you. I like it, i've enjoyed in now since the second half of summer without failure (well, the odd Ferreira shaped blip has infrequently rained on the parade - but not like the monsoon we had in spring). As i've said before, I think people gun for weaknesses so they have something to post about. For the first time in a while, alan (there's that man again) wheeled out the 'Deadenders' tag. It's like the bloody 'Iron Curtain'. People harped on about that long after the fall of communism, and it became tiresome. Berridge has gone. The Iron Curtain of the East End has been put in for a service wash. Lets consign that tag to the bottom draw, for now, eh.
alan45
24-09-2004
Originally Posted by TheWalfordOne:
“I can feel my verbose tingling... You see, who is to say when the defining mark will be? I've personally thought that there has been a quality within the show that has filled the 'hollowness' that left it squandering at the top of the year. I think it deserves credit now, not by any means for people to sing from the rooftops how brilliant it is, but to recognise how the reins have tightened considerably.

Although i'm optimistic now the Berridge has gone that the show can pick up, but what has it actually changed? Has she taken the whole writing team with her? Or should we start calling from all of them to be sacked too? because they are the one step closer to the actual giving us what we see on the screen.


If you don't like EastEnders for any reason, then i'm afraid that's tough titties to you. I like it, i've enjoyed in now since the second half of summer without failure (well, the odd Ferreira shaped blip has infrequently rained on the parade - but not like the monsoon we had in spring). As i've said before, I think people gun for weaknesses so they have something to post about. For the first time in a while, alan (there's that man again) wheeled out the 'Deadenders' tag. It's like the bloody 'Iron Curtain'. People harped on about that long after the fall of communism, and it became tiresome. Berridge has gone. The Iron Curtain of the East End has been put in for a service wash. Lets consign that tag to the bottom draw, for now, eh.”

I tried so hard not to use the DEADENDERS tag but even with the arrival of the SAVIOURS aka the Millers Im afraid EE has not floated my boat
My titties are not tough nor are my wifes (mores the pity) but I still await the revival of EE
SULLA
24-09-2004
Originally Posted by Goldilocks:
“I think Rosie is very good. As with a lot of families she is the glue that holds it together. She cooks, cleans, shops, cares for, fights for her family. And in turn she gets damn all help but still for some reason can't see that her "husband" is a lazy fecker. Her kids run rings around her but she won't let anyone say anything against them..”

You have summed her upquite well. She is downtrodden but her failure to control her children is the main reason they are running riot She is defending the indefensible. OK she gets no help from keith but she wants him to marry her and clearly is deluded that he is wonderful.
Continual juvenile crime and misbehaviour is not entertaining.

To sum up, there is nothing to appreciate.
juliebaird
24-09-2004
This family make the Ferrairas look good
Loopy Lisa Chez
24-09-2004
Now come on!
Cookie-L
24-09-2004
Originally Posted by juliebaird:
“This family make the Ferrairas look good”

Quote:
“Now come on!”

That's going too far. I haven't really warmed to this family yet, but they are nowhere near as bad as the Ferreiras, and they certainly don't make them look any better.
Loopy Lisa Chez
24-09-2004
Originally Posted by Lifeisacookie:
“That's going too far. I haven't really warmed to this family yet, but they are nowhere near as bad as the Ferreiras, and they certainly don't make them look any better.”


Argeed at last!!!

anyway bye for now all!
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