Does the iPhone 4S come with a free buble wrap case?

OnlyWayIsEpics · 19-10-2011, 13:31

It bloomin well needs one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw

What have they made it out of, porcelain or something?

wilt · 19-10-2011, 13:44

Ah you see, that's because the Galaxy S II is made out of plastic, therefore cheap, tacky and not well built.

...wait a minute...

Never mind.

OnlyWayIsEpics · 19-10-2011, 13:48

I think the glass is the issue here. Apple can't be using the same quality of Gorilla Glass that Samsung are. For a pricetag that starts at £100 more than the S2 you'd think giving you good quality glass was the least they good do.

iain · 19-10-2011, 13:50

is it because there'a more glass on the iPhone?

amazing.

Iain

wilt · 19-10-2011, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnlyWayIsEpics

I think the glass is the issue here. Apple can't be using the same quality of Gorilla Glass that Samsung are. For a pricetag that starts at £100 more than the S2 you'd think giving you good quality glass was the least they good do.

It's say it's probably the glass-metal-glass construction giving it very little flex. This puts too much pressure on the glass causing it to shatter.

But a good quality plastic can flex a lot (there's a video somewhere of somebody bending the S II battery door to extremes and it simply returning to normal) without sustaining much/any damage, so the stress is dissipated away from the glass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iain

is it because there'a more glass on the iPhone?

amazing.

Iain

Yeah, somebody thought it would be a good idea to make a hand held device made out of glass. Well done. Top design work, there.

I suppose it means more money from repairs on accidental damage. KA-CHING!

seellee · 19-10-2011, 13:54

It's a ridiculous test, and I don't understand why people do this kind of thing. funny how I've had my iPhone for a year and a half now and I don't have a single scratch on my screen. Do you know why? Because I'm not dropping it on the floor for fun! If you get a current iPhone it's all glass, it's not a surprise that dropping it on a concrete floor is going to break it. It's perfectly obvious.

wilt · 19-10-2011, 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by seellee

It's a ridiculous test, and I don't understand why people do this kind of thing. funny how I've had my iPhone for a year and a half now and I don't have a single scratch on my screen. Do you know why? Because I'm not dropping it on the floor for fun! If you get a current iPhone it's all glass, it's not a surprise that dropping it on a concrete floor is going to break it. It's perfectly obvious.

Yet you're paying a premium for a hand held device, and are most likely locked into a long term contract paying it off.

You would hope that somebody took the fact that accidents happen into account when they were designing it, would you not?

seellee · 19-10-2011, 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilt

Yet you're paying a premium for a hand held device, and are most likely locked into a long term contract paying it off.

You would hope that somebody took the fact that accidents happen into account when they were designing it, would you not?

Or on the other side, you are paying a premium for a device so bloody well look after it!

OnlyWayIsEpics · 19-10-2011, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by seellee

It's a ridiculous test, and I don't understand why people do this kind of thing. funny how I've had my iPhone for a year and a half now and I don't have a single scratch on my screen. Do you know why? Because I'm not dropping it on the floor for fun! If you get a current iPhone it's all glass, it's not a surprise that dropping it on a concrete floor is going to break it. It's perfectly obvious.

No one drops their phone for fun, but plenty of people do it by accident.

A device that has the word 'mobile' in it's name should have making it reasonably drop proof as a pre-requisite.

david.boobis · 19-10-2011, 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by seellee

It's a ridiculous test, and I don't understand why people do this kind of thing. funny how I've had my iPhone for a year and a half now and I don't have a single scratch on my screen. Do you know why? Because I'm not dropping it on the floor for fun! If you get a current iPhone it's all glass, it's not a surprise that dropping it on a concrete floor is going to break it. It's perfectly obvious.

Every single person I know with an iPhone 4 (and I know a LOT of people with an iPhone 4) have got at the very least a nick on the front or back glass panel. Many have cracks on the back, particularly round the camera. Fact of the matter is, even if you seem to be the most careful person in the world, most people aren't and will drop their phone or bang it against something or just throw it in their bag with their keys and end up damaging it. Not really what you want from a device that costs more than most PCs/laptops.

seellee · 19-10-2011, 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by david.boobis

Every single person I know with an iPhone 4 (and I know a LOT of people with an iPhone 4) have got at the very least a nick on the front or back glass panel. Many have cracks on the back, particularly round the camera. Fact of the matter is, even if you seem to be the most careful person in the world, most people aren't and will drop their phone or bang it against something or just throw it in their bag with their keys and end up damaging it. Not really what you want from a device that costs more than most PCs/laptops.

Every single person I know with an iPhone 4 doesnt have a scratch or any cracked glass on theirs. I'm not the most careful person in the world. I do a very physical job and have the phone in my pocket at all times due to the position I'm in. Maybe it's because I have a bumper around it I don't know.
I just think if you buy an all glass device, you know the consequences of dropping it on a certain type of floor . I mean was anybody really surprised by that video?

Stiggles · 19-10-2011, 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by iain

is it because there'a more glass on the iPhone?

amazing.

Iain

Actually, there is more glass on the front of the S2 which still didn't smash. However, i do think that's apples daft design in having the glass cover the entire phone whereas the S2 has its glass recessed.

OnlyWayIsEpics · 19-10-2011, 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by seellee

I just think if you buy an all glass device, you know the consequences of dropping it on a certain type of floor . I mean was anybody really surprised by that video?

Not if you use good glass, for some reason Apple refuse to use it though.

snuffdaddy · 19-10-2011, 17:28

Plastic v Glass. Need i say more, maybe only for an iphone fan to understand. There is a reason why others dont copy iphone case materials & its not just cost.

snuffdaddy · 19-10-2011, 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnlyWayIsEpics

Not if you use good glass, for some reason Apple refuse to use it though.

What exactly is this "good glass" you speak of?

psionic · 19-10-2011, 17:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by snuffdaddy

What exactly is this "good glass" you speak of?

Don't they both use Gorilla glass? The problem is the iPhone's design - the glass is very exposed. A bumper is essential IMHO.

alanwarwic · 19-10-2011, 18:50

With Apple the whole ecosystem is without doubt considered in the design .

So they have bumper bumper sales, ensure many buy the top end model and no doubt make more money on Applecare + repairs than most others do selling phones.

seellee · 19-10-2011, 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

With Apple the whole ecosystem is without doubt considered in the design .

So they have bumper bumper sales, ensure many buy the top end model and no doubt make more money on Applecare + repairs than most others do selling phones.

I absolutely agree with you about the cases. For instance most people who bought an ipad2 picked up one of those 'smart' covers, of course designed to go hand in hand so they make more money.
On the AppleCare side, never bought it, never will. Not once have I had to go and get anything repaired. However I've known a couple of people who had issues with laptops, one got his swapped out free of charge. The other got his repaired free of charge. Many don't believe it, but they can be pretty generous if something goes wrong. I've heard on other forums that if someone has cracked their screen on an idevice they have managed to get it swapped out.

nanscombe · 19-10-2011, 19:11

I've always kept my iPhones in flip cases to avoid scratches etc.

seellee · 19-10-2011, 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanscombe

I've always kept my iPhones in flip cases to avoid scratches etc.

Never liked those. They can be a pain. I'll use as minimal case as possible. It's a phone it's meant to be used. However I can see why you would fully protect it, if you wanted to sell it on.

I still can't believe anybody was as shocked as the OP about that video, i wouldn't have potentially written off a couple of devices just to tell me what I already know!

paulbrock · 19-10-2011, 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by psionic

Don't they both use Gorilla glass? The problem is the iPhone's design - the glass is very exposed. A bumper is essential IMHO.

suspected, but never confirmed by either Gorilla or Apple. A similar effect is seen in the Galaxy Tab vs iPad drop tests. For whatever reason (slightly thinner glass, different manufacturer, raised slightly), Apple's glass is more breakable.

I did a job for a company that just mended glass on Apple phones, they loved it, and had a roaring trade.

nanscombe · 19-10-2011, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by seellee

Never liked those. They can be a pain. I'll use as minimal case as possible. It's a phone it's meant to be used. However I can see why you would fully protect it, if you wanted to sell it on.

I've got used to using flip cases with my phone.

With my iPhone 3G it wasn't just about protection as I had an external battery case, because I managed to go through the battery like nobody's business.

Of course, my nice case physically doesn't fit my iPhone 4.

I now use an external battery pack, although since IOS 5 my battery life has improved quite a bit. Mind you, I can also use it to recharge my MiFi as well.

Another advantage is that the case gives me a good grip on the phone.

The other reason for having a flip case is absolutely nothing, at all, to do with Star Trek (original Series) communicators.

OnlyWayIsEpics · 19-10-2011, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by snuffdaddy

What exactly is this "good glass" you speak of?

Quote:

Originally Posted by psionic

Don't they both use Gorilla glass? The problem is the iPhone's design - the glass is very exposed. A bumper is essential IMHO.

I have heard (so don't quote me on this) that there are different standards and manufacturers of Gorilla Glass. Samsung uses the most expensive brand whereas Apple use a cheaper brand/type.

Samsung Gorilla Glass tested with a knife, who's willing to try the same on their iPhone 4S to test if they are the same Gorilla Glass being used

Gormond · 19-10-2011, 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnlyWayIsEpics

I have heard (so don't quote me on this) that there are different standards and manufacturers of Gorilla Glass. Samsung uses the most expensive brand whereas Apple use a cheaper brand/type.

Samsung Gorilla Glass tested with a knife, whose willing to try the same on their iPhone 4S to test if they are the same Gorilla Glass being used

I think you will find its a mixture of:

- The test wasn't exactly scientific
- The design of the different phones
- F= MA

paulbrock · 19-10-2011, 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gormond

I think you will find its a mixture of:

- The test wasn't exactly scientific
- The design of the different phones
- F= MA

I think its a mixture of

- Apple use glass which is less resistant to impact
- regardless of the back material, the front side also was weaker on the iphone
- some people refuse to accept this shows a flaw in Apple's design.

19-10-2011, 13:31	#1
OnlyWayIsEpics Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,397	Does the iPhone 4S come with a free buble wrap case? It bloomin well needs one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw What have they made it out of, porcelain or something?

19-10-2011, 13:44	#2
wilt Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Potterspury Posts: 930	Ah you see, that's because the Galaxy S II is made out of plastic, therefore cheap, tacky and not well built. ...wait a minute... Never mind.

19-10-2011, 13:48	#3
OnlyWayIsEpics Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,397	I think the glass is the issue here. Apple can't be using the same quality of Gorilla Glass that Samsung are. For a pricetag that starts at £100 more than the S2 you'd think giving you good quality glass was the least they good do.

19-10-2011, 13:50	#4
iain Guest Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 62,990	is it because there'a more glass on the iPhone? amazing. Iain

19-10-2011, 13:51	#5
wilt Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Potterspury Posts: 930	Quote: Originally Posted by OnlyWayIsEpics I think the glass is the issue here. Apple can't be using the same quality of Gorilla Glass that Samsung are. For a pricetag that starts at £100 more than the S2 you'd think giving you good quality glass was the least they good do. It's say it's probably the glass-metal-glass construction giving it very little flex. This puts too much pressure on the glass causing it to shatter. But a good quality plastic can flex a lot (there's a video somewhere of somebody bending the S II battery door to extremes and it simply returning to normal) without sustaining much/any damage, so the stress is dissipated away from the glass. Quote: Originally Posted by iain is it because there'a more glass on the iPhone? amazing. Iain Yeah, somebody thought it would be a good idea to make a hand held device made out of glass. Well done. Top design work, there. I suppose it means more money from repairs on accidental damage. KA-CHING!

19-10-2011, 13:54	#6
seellee Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,420	It's a ridiculous test, and I don't understand why people do this kind of thing. funny how I've had my iPhone for a year and a half now and I don't have a single scratch on my screen. Do you know why? Because I'm not dropping it on the floor for fun! If you get a current iPhone it's all glass, it's not a surprise that dropping it on a concrete floor is going to break it. It's perfectly obvious.

19-10-2011, 13:57	#7
wilt Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Potterspury Posts: 930	Quote: Originally Posted by seellee It's a ridiculous test, and I don't understand why people do this kind of thing. funny how I've had my iPhone for a year and a half now and I don't have a single scratch on my screen. Do you know why? Because I'm not dropping it on the floor for fun! If you get a current iPhone it's all glass, it's not a surprise that dropping it on a concrete floor is going to break it. It's perfectly obvious. Yet you're paying a premium for a hand held device, and are most likely locked into a long term contract paying it off. You would hope that somebody took the fact that accidents happen into account when they were designing it, would you not?

19-10-2011, 14:06	#8
seellee Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,420	Quote: Originally Posted by wilt Yet you're paying a premium for a hand held device, and are most likely locked into a long term contract paying it off. You would hope that somebody took the fact that accidents happen into account when they were designing it, would you not? Or on the other side, you are paying a premium for a device so bloody well look after it!

19-10-2011, 14:57	#9
OnlyWayIsEpics Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,397	Quote: Originally Posted by seellee It's a ridiculous test, and I don't understand why people do this kind of thing. funny how I've had my iPhone for a year and a half now and I don't have a single scratch on my screen. Do you know why? Because I'm not dropping it on the floor for fun! If you get a current iPhone it's all glass, it's not a surprise that dropping it on a concrete floor is going to break it. It's perfectly obvious. No one drops their phone for fun, but plenty of people do it by accident. A device that has the word 'mobile' in it's name should have making it reasonably drop proof as a pre-requisite.

19-10-2011, 15:15	#10
david.boobis Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 376	Quote: Originally Posted by seellee It's a ridiculous test, and I don't understand why people do this kind of thing. funny how I've had my iPhone for a year and a half now and I don't have a single scratch on my screen. Do you know why? Because I'm not dropping it on the floor for fun! If you get a current iPhone it's all glass, it's not a surprise that dropping it on a concrete floor is going to break it. It's perfectly obvious. Every single person I know with an iPhone 4 (and I know a LOT of people with an iPhone 4) have got at the very least a nick on the front or back glass panel. Many have cracks on the back, particularly round the camera. Fact of the matter is, even if you seem to be the most careful person in the world, most people aren't and will drop their phone or bang it against something or just throw it in their bag with their keys and end up damaging it. Not really what you want from a device that costs more than most PCs/laptops.

19-10-2011, 15:44	#11
seellee Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,420	Quote: Originally Posted by david.boobis Every single person I know with an iPhone 4 (and I know a LOT of people with an iPhone 4) have got at the very least a nick on the front or back glass panel. Many have cracks on the back, particularly round the camera. Fact of the matter is, even if you seem to be the most careful person in the world, most people aren't and will drop their phone or bang it against something or just throw it in their bag with their keys and end up damaging it. Not really what you want from a device that costs more than most PCs/laptops. Every single person I know with an iPhone 4 doesnt have a scratch or any cracked glass on theirs. I'm not the most careful person in the world. I do a very physical job and have the phone in my pocket at all times due to the position I'm in. Maybe it's because I have a bumper around it I don't know. I just think if you buy an all glass device, you know the consequences of dropping it on a certain type of floor . I mean was anybody really surprised by that video?

19-10-2011, 16:09	#12
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by iain is it because there'a more glass on the iPhone? amazing. Iain Actually, there is more glass on the front of the S2 which still didn't smash. However, i do think that's apples daft design in having the glass cover the entire phone whereas the S2 has its glass recessed.

19-10-2011, 16:31	#13
OnlyWayIsEpics Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,397	Quote: Originally Posted by seellee I just think if you buy an all glass device, you know the consequences of dropping it on a certain type of floor . I mean was anybody really surprised by that video? Not if you use good glass, for some reason Apple refuse to use it though.

19-10-2011, 17:28	#14
snuffdaddy Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London Posts: 386	Plastic v Glass. Need i say more, maybe only for an iphone fan to understand. There is a reason why others dont copy iphone case materials & its not just cost.

19-10-2011, 17:35	#15
snuffdaddy Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London Posts: 386	Quote: Originally Posted by OnlyWayIsEpics Not if you use good glass, for some reason Apple refuse to use it though. What exactly is this "good glass" you speak of?

19-10-2011, 17:40	#16
psionic Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crystal Palace TX Posts: 19,702	Quote: Originally Posted by snuffdaddy What exactly is this "good glass" you speak of? Don't they both use Gorilla glass? The problem is the iPhone's design - the glass is very exposed. A bumper is essential IMHO.

19-10-2011, 18:50	#17
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	With Apple the whole ecosystem is without doubt considered in the design . So they have bumper bumper sales, ensure many buy the top end model and no doubt make more money on Applecare + repairs than most others do selling phones.

19-10-2011, 19:10	#18
seellee Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,420	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic With Apple the whole ecosystem is without doubt considered in the design . So they have bumper bumper sales, ensure many buy the top end model and no doubt make more money on Applecare + repairs than most others do selling phones. I absolutely agree with you about the cases. For instance most people who bought an ipad2 picked up one of those 'smart' covers, of course designed to go hand in hand so they make more money. On the AppleCare side, never bought it, never will. Not once have I had to go and get anything repaired. However I've known a couple of people who had issues with laptops, one got his swapped out free of charge. The other got his repaired free of charge. Many don't believe it, but they can be pretty generous if something goes wrong. I've heard on other forums that if someone has cracked their screen on an idevice they have managed to get it swapped out.

19-10-2011, 19:11	#19
nanscombe Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kent, Uk Posts: 16,161	I've always kept my iPhones in flip cases to avoid scratches etc.

19-10-2011, 19:22	#20
seellee Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,420	Quote: Originally Posted by nanscombe I've always kept my iPhones in flip cases to avoid scratches etc. Never liked those. They can be a pain. I'll use as minimal case as possible. It's a phone it's meant to be used. However I can see why you would fully protect it, if you wanted to sell it on. I still can't believe anybody was as shocked as the OP about that video, i wouldn't have potentially written off a couple of devices just to tell me what I already know!

19-10-2011, 20:17	#21
paulbrock Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wapping, London Posts: 16,222	Quote: Originally Posted by psionic Don't they both use Gorilla glass? The problem is the iPhone's design - the glass is very exposed. A bumper is essential IMHO. suspected, but never confirmed by either Gorilla or Apple. A similar effect is seen in the Galaxy Tab vs iPad drop tests. For whatever reason (slightly thinner glass, different manufacturer, raised slightly), Apple's glass is more breakable. I did a job for a company that just mended glass on Apple phones, they loved it, and had a roaring trade.

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Does the iPhone 4S come with a free buble wrap case?

19-10-2011, 21:03	#22
nanscombe Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kent, Uk Posts: 16,161	Quote: Originally Posted by seellee Never liked those. They can be a pain. I'll use as minimal case as possible. It's a phone it's meant to be used. However I can see why you would fully protect it, if you wanted to sell it on. I've got used to using flip cases with my phone. With my iPhone 3G it wasn't just about protection as I had an external battery case, because I managed to go through the battery like nobody's business. Of course, my nice case physically doesn't fit my iPhone 4. I now use an external battery pack, although since IOS 5 my battery life has improved quite a bit. Mind you, I can also use it to recharge my MiFi as well. Another advantage is that the case gives me a good grip on the phone. The other reason for having a flip case is absolutely nothing, at all, to do with Star Trek (original Series) communicators.

19-10-2011, 21:08	#23
OnlyWayIsEpics Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,397	Quote: Originally Posted by snuffdaddy What exactly is this "good glass" you speak of? Quote: Originally Posted by psionic Don't they both use Gorilla glass? The problem is the iPhone's design - the glass is very exposed. A bumper is essential IMHO. I have heard (so don't quote me on this) that there are different standards and manufacturers of Gorilla Glass. Samsung uses the most expensive brand whereas Apple use a cheaper brand/type. Samsung Gorilla Glass tested with a knife, who's willing to try the same on their iPhone 4S to test if they are the same Gorilla Glass being used

19-10-2011, 21:10	#24
Gormond Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 15,714	Quote: Originally Posted by OnlyWayIsEpics I have heard (so don't quote me on this) that there are different standards and manufacturers of Gorilla Glass. Samsung uses the most expensive brand whereas Apple use a cheaper brand/type. Samsung Gorilla Glass tested with a knife, whose willing to try the same on their iPhone 4S to test if they are the same Gorilla Glass being used I think you will find its a mixture of: - The test wasn't exactly scientific - The design of the different phones - F= MA

19-10-2011, 21:50	#25
paulbrock Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wapping, London Posts: 16,222	Quote: Originally Posted by Gormond I think you will find its a mixture of: - The test wasn't exactly scientific - The design of the different phones - F= MA I think its a mixture of - Apple use glass which is less resistant to impact - regardless of the back material, the front side also was weaker on the iphone - some people refuse to accept this shows a flaw in Apple's design.