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Old 20-10-2011, 23:50
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I loved "Criminal" when it came out on Tuesday and watched it quite a few times, but then the very next day along came "We Found Love" and kinda has blown Britney away..

Even in the YouTube views Criminal only has 500k and I think Rihanna's heading for a massive hit with her video.

Sorry Britney, bad timing.
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Old 20-10-2011, 23:53
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I love both Britney and Rihanna but in this case I think Criminal is a much better song than We Found Love. I find the latter very tuneless and repetitive. Criminal is one of Britney's best in ages, imo. Same goes for the videos. But then why do they need to compete, there's room for both of them!
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Old 20-10-2011, 23:59
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Criminal had thunder?

The song has been out for listening for ages. A video isn't everything nowadays.

Havin watched both;

Criminal is good and probably best of this era but We Found Love is just better an has a more touching story.
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Old 21-10-2011, 00:06
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Comparisons...

Anyway, I don't really know what the buzz for each song/video is right now, but EVEN IF Rihanna's 'WFL' is slightly overshadowing 'Criminal', then that's normal.WFL is a lead single off of an album that is yet to be released, while 'Criminal' is the 4th single off of an album that was released 7 months ago.Also, WFL is a club banger, while 'Criminal' is a ballad (= slow burner) So, even before the premieres, I wouldn't blame anyone for saying WFL would take some momentum away from 'Criminal'.

However, surprisingly, 'Criminal' is doing great and it is getting an amazing reaction and a good commercial response, so I think it's got all the shine it needed to get and then some
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Old 21-10-2011, 01:07
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I don't think so. I know with female pop artists, their fans sometimes seem to get a bit competitive with each other, but I don't think the general public see it that way. I think the general public can cope with two videos at once, and you also have to remember that most people won't watch the videos on the day of release. It's only really the devoted fans that do that. It could be a few weeks until some people see one of the videos.

It reminds me of how Judas and Super Bass's music videos were released really close to each other aswell, and some people thought Super Bass stole Judas's thunder, but I don't think it really did in the end.
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Old 21-10-2011, 01:29
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britneys new stuff has pretty much bombed in the uk, there was never any hype or anticipation for any of her songs. she is awful and so is her music. Rihanna can do no wrong, great music sung by a talented artist who works harder than anyone and videos that actually mean something.
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Old 21-10-2011, 01:55
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britneys new stuff has pretty much bombed in the uk, there was never any hype or anticipation for any of her songs. she is awful and so is her music. Rihanna can do no wrong, great music sung by a talented artist who works harder than anyone and videos that actually mean something.
I'm a Rihanna fan aswell, but I think Britney has some fantastic songs on her current album. I think she's not doing well here just due to lack of radio airplay. In other countries, where she does get played on the radio a lot, her songs sell.
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Old 21-10-2011, 02:04
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The difference is Rihanna's is the first video and single of a new album that is being released on the back of an other massive selling album.

Britney's is the fourth single from an album that has struggled to sell ww. Any hype was down to it being filmed in the UK and that still won't help it not sadly flop here.

Loud sold 5m, Femme Fatale will be lucky to get 2 (a total and real shame) Rihanna's was always going to do bigger and get more hype because Rihanna is currently bigger.
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Old 21-10-2011, 02:59
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not sure how the comparison between the two is relevant. I'm certainly not a Britney fan but Criminal is a great song and somehow wonder why it was released as a lead or second single. 'We found love' is very underwhelming. I like how Rihanna's vocals sound slightly different on this record but that's about it. I found it quite bland otherwise. But video-wise, WFL is a great video - even if I'm not sure I like how edgy Rihanna is trying to look like - while Criminal is an ok one (Britney looks really good it and it's well shot but it's nothing spectacular) that literally translate visually the meaning of the song.
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Old 21-10-2011, 07:03
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I'm not sure either have made much impact in the US, but over here yes WFL stole Criminal's thunder (which it didn't really have, to be pedantic)...but it's hardly fair to compare the new lead single from the UK's obsession (Rihanna) which is currently at #1 to the fourth single from an artist who has made little impact here this era (the song is still in the upper hundreds on iTunes I believe).

britneys new stuff has pretty much bombed in the uk, there was never any hype or anticipation for any of her songs. she is awful and so is her music. Rihanna can do no wrong, great music sung by a talented artist who works harder than anyone and videos that actually mean something.
Except she isn't really a talented artist because all she does is sing, and not particularly well, and if 'working harder than anyone' is simply laying down vocals on music other people have written every 6 months...then sure.

Plus, let's not get carried away. WFL has meaning, as does Man Down, but What's My Name, Only Girl, Who's That Chick, Cheers, California King Bed and S&M didn't.
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Old 21-10-2011, 09:02
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britneys new stuff has pretty much bombed in the uk, there was never any hype or anticipation for any of her songs. she is awful and so is her music. Rihanna can do no wrong, great music sung by a talented artist who works harder than anyone and videos that actually mean something.
I really fail to see how you can call Britney and her music awful in one sentence, and in the next call Rihanna amazing for making great music and working harder than anyone Whilst I like both, Rihanna has no talent whatsoever! She's written few of her songs and does sound pretty awful live... And yes she does work harder than Britney does at the moment, but Britney is a mother now who worked her ass off in her early career to get where she is now.
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Old 21-10-2011, 09:24
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I really fail to see how you can call Britney and her music awful in one sentence, and in the next call Rihanna amazing for making great music and working harder than anyone Whilst I like both, Rihanna has no talent whatsoever! She's written few of her songs and does sound pretty awful live... And yes she does work harder than Britney does at the moment, but Britney is a mother now who worked her ass off in her early career to get where she is now.
It's Britney that has not a lot of talent. I just went to the Femme Fatale Tour and I've also seen the Loud Tour and without a doubt, Rihanna gave her fans a better show. Her vocals have improved so much over the years!!

Britney in a way tricks her fans into thinking she has a lot of say in her career when intact she don't. We've all seen FOr The Record andnin it she is given a song (not knowin when it finnishes) and lays a bad vocal on it and magically it becomes a good sounding song. I think it was "trouble".

I honestly thought the Femme Fetale Tour was poor. Really shit set list and to e Frank, a waste of my money. I feel mega sorry for those fans who bought a meet an greet because they are NOTHING like rihannas. It's actually shocking how distant britney is to he fans ad it gas nothing to do with having kids.
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Old 21-10-2011, 10:45
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I think its more a case of We Found Love is a brand new song where as Criminal has been available on the album for months. Anyone who cares already has the song and has probably moved on.
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Old 21-10-2011, 11:07
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Can we not say Rihanna is better than Britney or that Brintey is better than Rihanna. Putting down other pop artists is the sort of thing Lady Gaga fans do.

Both Britney and Rihanna are great pop stars. They have their advantages and disadvantages. They both have good and bad songs. Neither is better than the other. We all have our own preferences.
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Old 21-10-2011, 13:17
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Can we not say Rihanna is better than Britney or that Brintey is better than Rihanna. Putting down other pop artists is the sort of thing Lady Gaga fans do.

Both Britney and Rihanna are great pop stars. They have their advantages and disadvantages. They both have good and bad songs. Neither is better than the other. We all have our own preferences.
Well said. Britney never puts her peers or competition down, why should her fans?

I think that yes, WFL has overshadowed Criminal, but they are very different songs, videos, and artists. Criminal is a slower style of song for Britney, something she hasn't released since "Everytime" in 2004. WFL is the type of song Rihanna is famous for: dancey, high energy, and catchy. Rihanna is releasing WFL as a lead single, after 6 successful singles in the past year; she has the momentum.

It shouldn't have much of an effect on chart positions in the UK anyways, should it? WFL is on it's second week at number one already. Criminal isn't released until mid-November, so theres enough time for it to reclaim it's much deserved attention. Hopefully an X Factor performance will promote it. Possible wishful thinking though.
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Old 21-10-2011, 13:27
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Can we not say Rihanna is better than Britney or that Brintey is better than Rihanna. Putting down other pop artists is the sort of thing Lady Gaga fans do.

Both Britney and Rihanna are great pop stars. They have their advantages and disadvantages. They both have good and bad songs. Neither is better than the other. We all have our own preferences.
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Old 21-10-2011, 13:44
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britneys new stuff has pretty much bombed in the uk, there was never any hype or anticipation for any of her songs. she is awful and so is her music. Rihanna can do no wrong, great music sung by a talented artist who works harder than anyone and videos that actually mean something.
LMAO Rihanna Talented She hasnt got much of a voice doesnt write any of her songs, shoves a new album out EVERY year, she can not dance unless you call shaking your arse a dance. her music is good dont get me wrong but she so over rated and so mainstream of course shes bound to do better.

I think Britney's Criminal video is fantastic and amazingly filmed and is the 1st video in a long time to deserve a 5min short film and has the storyline to back it up unlike other artists who do 9min videos and the video has nothing to do with the Song.

britney's femme Fatale Era music wise hasnt done great but to be fair she has not done one Performance over here for FF which i find really odd I mean i dont know why these record labels think cause she is a huge name she can still sell, to have top 10s here you need to Perform let people know and see the passion for the song.
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Old 21-10-2011, 13:56
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LMAO Rihanna Talented She hasnt got much of a voice doesnt write any of her songs, shoves a new album out EVERY year, she can not dance unless you call shaking your arse a dance. her music is good dont get me wrong but she so over rated and so mainstream of course shes bound to do better.

I think Britney's Criminal video is fantastic and amazingly filmed and is the 1st video in a long time to deserve a 5min short film and has the storyline to back it up unlike other artists who do 9min videos and the video has nothing to do with the Song.

britney's femme Fatale Era music wise hasnt done great but to be fair she has not done one Performance over here for FF which i find really odd I mean i dont know why these record labels think cause she is a huge name she can still sell, to have top 10s here you need to Perform let people know and see the passion for the song.
Slick shade

The reason why the FF era has underperformed is because the label is trying to milk her and they don't care about longetivity. She had worked with some great producers, but then they made her work with Dr Luke and Max Martin to make a SAFE, commercial album, but Britney is not supposed to release that kind of stuff.They probably misjudged the success of 'Circus'

They haven't booked any televised performances for her since April.That's because they wanted her to tour while Jive still has the rights to claim a percentage of the ticekt sales I'm hoping that the next era will be better put together
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Old 21-10-2011, 14:20
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I'm sorry but I absolutely loathe every aspect of We Found Love and I love Rihanna.
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Old 21-10-2011, 14:52
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britneys new stuff has pretty much bombed in the uk, there was never any hype or anticipation for any of her songs. she is awful and so is her music. Rihanna can do no wrong, great music sung by a talented artist who works harder than anyone and videos that actually mean something.
thats your opinion, how can you say someone is awful wen you dont know them? music fair enough but the person?...i cant...

Anyway i feel bad cos im a bit of a britney stan but i love criminal, but both videos are great its just a shame that WFL will be played 100 times a day on music channels and criminal 1...
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Old 21-10-2011, 15:16
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I love the song criminal but i do not like the video because it has too much sex. We do not need to see Britney frolicking with her boyfriend. It did not add anything to the story. I feel if the video was less about sex and violence, it would be played on the music channels however because of the nature of the video, it will receive little to no airplay. It is a shame because the song is very good.
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Old 21-10-2011, 15:33
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I love the song criminal but i do not like the video because it has too much sex. We do not need to see Britney frolicking with her boyfriend. It did not add anything to the story. I feel if the video was less about sex and violence, it would be played on the music channels however because of the nature of the video, it will receive little to no airplay. It is a shame because the song is very good.

its about being in LOVE with a criminal....
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Old 21-10-2011, 15:58
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I LOVE Criminal....it was a good week for releases this week actually. We FOund Love made me love the song and "get" it more for this era!

I think Criminal if released a week before would allow more time for it to register but because Rihanna is a "bigger name" at the moment of course WFL will get the hype....its been number 1 for two weeks already...maybe a third now and not let The Wanted get it!

But at the end of the day i absolutely love both of them!
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Old 21-10-2011, 16:27
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Don't like either song but both videos are great. But yes, I think that Britney's would have a greater impact if Rihanna's wasn't released at the same time. Rihanna having a new song and all will basically eclipse Criminal, which is a shame because the video is great!
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Old 21-10-2011, 16:29
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its about being in LOVE with a criminal....
I know that however too much sex is not needed. Michael Jackson had a song called smooth criminal and it didn't have much violence or sex. It was told through choreography and the video suited the song perfectly. It wasn't literal.
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