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NooksCranny
22-10-2011
I love pugs I think they are brilliant and would love one as a pet but some people (including my boyfriend) think they are ugly

What do you think?




Just for added cuteness
lex parsimoniae
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by NooksCranny:
“..... but some people (including my boyfriend) think they are ugly”

Hence the term... 'pug-ugly'
maybe
23-10-2011
I'm sure that inside their deformed little bodies they have the same qualities which make all dogs a wonderful companion species.

However, I feel nothing but pity and shame when I see a breed which has been designed for comedy and the 'cute' factor. Poor dogs.

Quote:
“The Pug Club UK [...] warns that pugs' eyes (described as "unique" and responsible for the breed's "irresistible appearance") are prone to injury and ulcers. It also mentions that they should not be walked in the heat of the day or driven in a hot car because of their tendency to overheat. It also includes some rather vague info about joint problems - although does not mention by name one of the breed's biggest problems - hemivertebrae (abnormally-shaped vertebrae that result in a twisted spine) or Pug Dog Encephalitis (a seriously nasty neurological problem for which there is now a DNA test)....”

Not forgetting

Quote:
“ Bracycephalic Airway Obstructed Syndrome (BOAS), an extremely common problem in Pugs and one that very often necessitates surgery to allow them to breathe more freely”

Or

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“Hip Dysplasia; where there is a poor fit between the bones of the hip joint - the femur and the actabulum.”

And

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“Patellar Luxation; this is when the kneecap,slides in and out of its groove.”

Link

Sorry to be so critical of this breed but I really can't see any reason for creating animals with so many health problems.
crimsonhobbit
23-10-2011
Each to their own but I find them ugly. It's difficult to understand why some breeds have been created for no practical reasons and end up suffering with poor hearts, joints, breathing, eyes etc etc. Breeders and the Kennel Club have a lot to answer for over the years.
molliepops
23-10-2011
I love pugs to death unfortunetly they are the one dog I seem to be allergic to, they make me wheeze and sneeze so I'll never be able to have one
Tian Long
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by maybe:
“I'm sure that inside their deformed little bodies they have the same qualities which make all dogs a wonderful companion species.

However, I feel nothing but pity and shame when I see a breed which has been designed for comedy and the 'cute' factor. Poor dogs.



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Sorry to be so critical of this breed but I really can't see any reason for creating animals with so many health problems.”

Yet pugs can live to 12-15yrs, A Great Dane will live to 7.
mavis b sausage
24-10-2011
Originally Posted by Tian Long:
“Yet pugs can live to 12-15yrs, A Great Dane will live to 7.”

...And I'd like to add this: my mother has had 11 pugs over the last 48 years, of which there has been one case of patella luxation (easily fixed - no long term damage), two cases of serious eye problems (one damaged by a much larger dog, one scrabbling about in the bushes - no chronic pain later), no breathing problems at all and no hip dysplasia. One died very young from hydrocephalus (congenital, not breed specific). All the others lived to a ripe old age and had lives filled with joy Ma is now rather elderly and quite infirm, the current pug, Lucy, in enchanting. Active, happy, sweet natured, a little bit naughty and keeps ma cheerful and 'on the ball'. I don't have pugs myself as I prefer Chows but have always found ma's very lovable.
To the person who is allergic to pugs: have you ever met a black one? Their coat is completely different from the fawn coats.
molliepops
24-10-2011
I didn't know that it has been fawns I have met so I must look for a black to test the theory.
mavis b sausage
24-10-2011
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“I didn't know that it has been fawns I have met so I must look for a black to test the theory.”

Please do, Lucy is my mother's first black pug, all the others were various shades of fawn. I was astonished at how different the texture is and she doesn't moult like the fawns either, which is a huge bonus
NooksCranny
24-10-2011
Originally Posted by mavis b sausage:
“...And I'd like to add this: my mother has had 11 pugs over the last 48 years, of which there has been one case of patella luxation (easily fixed - no long term damage), two cases of serious eye problems (one damaged by a much larger dog, one scrabbling about in the bushes - no chronic pain later), no breathing problems at all and no hip dysplasia. One died very young from hydrocephalus (congenital, not breed specific). All the others lived to a ripe old age and had lives filled with joy Ma is now rather elderly and quite infirm, the current pug, Lucy, in enchanting. Active, happy, sweet natured, a little bit naughty and keeps ma cheerful and 'on the ball'. I don't have pugs myself as I prefer Chows but have always found ma's very lovable.
To the person who is allergic to pugs: have you ever met a black one? Their coat is completely different from the fawn coats.”

To be honest, you take a gamble with any dog (or any pet for that matter) when it comes to health problems...any animal is going to suffer with one thing or another at some point in their lives, whether its a mild case of something or a serious problem.
skunkboy69
24-10-2011
Such an unfortunate and sad breed of dog.I just feel pity for them.
PhoenixRises
24-10-2011
I can't say a Pug would be my first choice in dog, but recently I discovered the Puggle (Cross between a Pug and a Beagle) and they are cute little things, I am sure there are health problems galore but still cute.
pugamo
24-10-2011
I have a pug and absolutely adore her! She has done a bit of modelling (I haven't joined her up to an agency lol, I used to work for a kennels and somebody contacted us looking a pug) and this is actually her http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=roy...1t:429,r:2,s:0

As for health problems, if you are aware of the breed you are buying, are prepared for any problems and have them regularly checked by a vet then I believe you are a responsible owner. They are delightful little dogs with a great personality and not everyone owns them because they are popular at the minute.
Fio Montoya
24-10-2011
I love the miniature pugs, met a gorgeous one called Elvis recently, gave serious thought to running off with him
mavis b sausage
25-10-2011
Originally Posted by skunkboy69:
“Such an unfortunate and sad breed of dog.I just feel pity for them.”

You what now? In my experience they are one of the happiest breeds around. They take enormous joy in the simplest things, adore human company and are miserable for about 0.00005% of the time.
Things Pugs don't like: having their toenails cut, being made to sit on the floor instead of a lap/chair/the breakfast table, not having a million toys of their own, not being the centre of attention, not being given as much food as they think they should get (including everybody else's)
Things Pugs do like: Lying fast asleep with a row of other Pugs looking like canneloni, just about everything else
NooksCranny
25-10-2011
Originally Posted by mavis b sausage:
“You what now? In my experience they are one of the happiest breeds around. They take enormous joy in the simplest things, adore human company and are miserable for about 0.00005% of the time.
Things Pugs don't like: having their toenails cut, being made to sit on the floor instead of a lap/chair/the breakfast table, not having a million toys of their own, not being the centre of attention, not being given as much food as they think they should get (including everybody else's)
Things Pugs do like: Lying fast asleep with a row of other Pugs looking like canneloni, just about everything else”

Lol just the same as any other breed of dog really, especially when they are puppies ....and I experience this with my cat as well (apart from the toenail bit)
jaymiej
25-10-2011
i have two beautiful pugs - bandit and bridget and have bred 6 happy healthy puppies - currently waiting for our final litter due any day now!! They are fabulous dogs, mine have never been ill delight in the company of people and have given me a great deal of joy ) they are beautiful lil things! xx
nobabydaddy
25-10-2011
Pugs are so ugly you just have to love them xxx
mavis b sausage
25-10-2011
Originally Posted by NooksCranny:
“Lol just the same as any other breed of dog really, especially when they are puppies ....and I experience this with my cat as well (apart from the toenail bit)”

Oh, the irony, my Chows like having their toenails cut (need bolt cutters to get through them), wouldn't sit on a lap if you paid them* (just as well, they weigh about 5 tons), are quite happy with their own food... but some of them like to hoard everybody else's toys, including the Chihuahua's tiny ones

*Unless there is a thunderstorm, in which case they all try to pile on
Eric the Fish
26-10-2011
According to this the pug isn't even in the top ten of most unhealthy dog breeds

http://www.dogadvice.co.uk/most-unhealthy-dog-breeds/
kizzie
26-10-2011
Originally Posted by PhoenixRises:
“I can't say a Pug would be my first choice in dog, but recently I discovered the Puggle (Cross between a Pug and a Beagle) and they are cute little things, I am sure there are health problems galore but still cute.”

My niece breeds shuggles--- Pug Cross with Shih-Tzu
http://www.castellanhouse.co.uk/crosses.htm

hers look like the first one but with longer coats


They are adorable

Designer dogs as they are now called are trying to breed out the problems that pedigree made, but I expect they will in turn have their own problems
kizzie
26-10-2011
Originally Posted by Eric the Fish:
“According to this the pug isn't even in the top ten of most unhealthy dog breeds

http://www.dogadvice.co.uk/most-unhealthy-dog-breeds/”

I can understand why some are on on there but others I cant see why, nor why some are not on there.
maybe
26-10-2011
Originally Posted by Eric the Fish:
“According to this the pug isn't even in the top ten of most unhealthy dog breeds

http://www.dogadvice.co.uk/most-unhealthy-dog-breeds/”

Scary, considering how many problems they do have!

This is a good site for checking out the poor health of dogs:

Genetic Welfare Problems of Companion Animals
Eric the Fish
26-10-2011
Originally Posted by maybe:
“Scary, considering how many problems they do have!

This is a good site for checking out the poor health of dogs:

Genetic Welfare Problems of Companion Animals”

So what do you suggest? That nobody has a dog off that list?
maybe
26-10-2011
Originally Posted by Eric the Fish:
“So what do you suggest? That nobody has a dog off that list?”

I haven't got a clue what the solution is

I wish I did.

I just think that what we've done to dogs is 'up there' with the worst environmental crimes because they are such great animals.

It's shocking to think that one to two hundred years of selective breeding has very nearly broken an animal which was renowned for vigour and energy.

Personally I don't like the extreme breeds (very large or very small; too much skin; odd shapes; no noses etc etc) but then I'm happy to have a mongrel and it would be no loss to me if the whole dog breeding fiasco came to an end.

Above all, I think it's sad.
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