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Old 23-10-2011, 18:43
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At 9.77m last night. Not good. This is at around Series 5 level.

I switched off. The judges were so fake and it was embarrassing to watch.

Kelly is really a bitch. It is like she has PMSL every time. I have no respect for Gary as a lair and trying to fool the nation. Tulisa is just out of her depth. Louis is just annoying.

The contestants are all bad. It was really one of the worst shows, and I thought last year couldn't get any worst.
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Old 23-10-2011, 18:44
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It's not the judges that are the problem it's the contestants they are all shocking
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Old 23-10-2011, 18:46
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I switched off last night because of the judges, tuned back in.

Then when Misha-Gate started i turned off because of uncomfortable viewing!
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Old 23-10-2011, 18:49
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I don't blame the contestants or the judges, I blame the production tbh.
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Old 23-10-2011, 18:50
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I can't believe SCD is winning the ratings war, I don't know anyone who watches it
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Old 23-10-2011, 18:52
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It's not the judges that are the problem it's the contestants they are all shocking
But they picked them.
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Old 23-10-2011, 18:57
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The jusges chose the contestants so they are to blame. The problem has always been with the judges this year.

Louis - Never been very good in all the series
Kelly - Wishes she had half the amount of success as Beyonce
Gary - No personality, failed solo career
Tulissa - Wouldnt know a hit if it smacked her in the face. Never reached amazing heights with N-Dubz so dont think she has got the right to judge others when she has never had any real success herself.

I Would have thought changes would have been made already tbh and now there probably wont be another X Factor. We all knew that this would happen when it was first announced about the judges.Gary has not got the capability to be head judge and carry the show because he is boring.

Whoever wins this year will be another Steve Brookstein, Leon Jackson, Matt Cardle. They will be dropped in a year as the judges dont know what talent is as they havent got it themselves
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Old 23-10-2011, 18:59
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I can't believe SCD is winning the ratings war, I don't know anyone who watches it
Its not
Strictly is still behind quite far in official averages and overnight averages and has not beaten TXF thus far.......
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Old 23-10-2011, 18:59
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But they picked them.
Good point, I still think they are to blame though
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Old 23-10-2011, 19:00
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SC should never have got rid of Cheryl.
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Old 23-10-2011, 19:01
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But they picked them.
How much imput do u think the judges actually have? it's all fake for ratings, I thought it was awful the way they kicked off the acts without Public. Vote but obviously they wanted to ensure this useless lot got through
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Old 23-10-2011, 19:03
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Kelly made me switch off before the end. Her loud, arrogant attitude is suitable for American TV only. She acts like a diva, but that privelidge is for acts that deserve it, like Mariah and Beyonce.

I honestly believe Louis get's nervous around her, hence his stuttering and getting things wrong last night, she is a nasty piece of work""
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Old 23-10-2011, 19:04
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The Clash is harming the show. X Factor was again above 10m when it finished
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Old 23-10-2011, 19:05
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Kelly made me switch off before the end. Her loud, arrogant attitude is suitable for American TV only. She acts like a diva, but that privelidge is for acts that deserve it, like Mariah and Beyonce.

I honestly believe Louis get's nervous around her, hence his stuttering and getthing things wrong last night, she is a nasty piece of work""
I have met her before, TXF Germany bootcamp last year.

She is so lovely, she attempted to speak German to us, she sucked but anyway.

All of the axed contestants (inc. me got a lovely hug off of her)
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Old 23-10-2011, 19:06
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Dont blame Louis for joke acts, blame the producers.
If Kelly was anywhere near as successful as Beyonce do you think she'd appear on XFUK?
Doesnt matter about Gary's solo career - he knows what it takes to succeed in the british music industry.
Agree Tulisa shouldnt be on the panel...surely they could get better judges than her? She's too young for a start.

I think XF will carry on into 2012 but we'll see major format changes and it does need them...its still bringing in 10m+ viewers so ITV wont ditch it yet.

The winner every year has a short career unless they're genuinely good like Leona, Will Young or JLS...the problem is the format. What the viewing public vote for on a TV show vs. what they will buy in HMV/online/etc are completely different. This is why we keep getting bland winners...its the same on most reality shows on TV. The acts that dont offend anyone in particular tend to win...but they're not the ones that actually ENGAGE people longterm.
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Old 23-10-2011, 19:08
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I have met her before, TXF Germany bootcamp last year.

She is so lovely, she attempted to speak German to us, she sucked but anyway.

All of the axed contestants (inc. me got a lovely hug off of her)
I have no idea what she is like outside of the show, all i know of her is what i see on the show. She was rude, talking over Louis and interrupting the other judges comments is downright ignorant. I didnt enjoy her patronising Louis and Tulissa.
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Old 23-10-2011, 19:14
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How much imput do u think the judges actually have? it's all fake for ratings, I thought it was awful the way they kicked off the acts without Public. Vote but obviously they wanted to ensure this useless lot got through

There is no way stars like Gary and Kelly would agree to do the show if they were told who to pick for the live shows.
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Old 23-10-2011, 19:19
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The jusges chose the contestants so they are to blame. The problem has always been with the judges this year.

Louis - Never been very good in all the series
Kelly - Wishes she had half the amount of success as Beyonce
Gary - No personality, failed solo career
Tulissa - Wouldnt know a hit if it smacked her in the face. Never reached amazing heights with N-Dubz so dont think she has got the right to judge others when she has never had any real success herself.

I Would have thought changes would have been made already tbh and now there probably wont be another X Factor. We all knew that this would happen when it was first announced about the judges.Gary has not got the capability to be head judge and carry the show because he is boring.

Whoever wins this year will be another Steve Brookstein, Leon Jackson, Matt Cardle. They will be dropped in a year as the judges dont know what talent is as they havent got it themselves


The judges DO NOT choose the contestants.........the producers do. The judges read their scripts and get on with it.
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Old 23-10-2011, 19:22
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But they picked them.
No they don't pick them..
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Old 23-10-2011, 19:56
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i think the reason why the x factor has gone down in ratings while SCD has held firm is due to the contestants

the x factor has below average contestants this year, nothing to capture the imagination

while SCD has some pretty strong contestants this year. Even the comedy act of russel grant is proving very popular.

also dont forget that last years x factor was so strong with 3 or 4 credible winners. That ratings were unusually high.

So its not a suprise that they ratings have gone from above average for an above average series to below average with a below average series.
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Old 24-10-2011, 15:36
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There is no way stars like Gary and Kelly would agree to do the show if they were told who to pick for the live shows.
Ok the if thats what you want to believe thats fine, i bet you cant wait for Santa to come
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Old 24-10-2011, 17:41
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It's not the judges that are the problem it's the contestants they are all shocking
It's totally about the judges. In every country where Idol or XF is shown the ratings are directly related to the quality of the judges, not the contestants. One truly amazing contestant can help to lift ratings, but that's very rare.

The judge who is actually bombing in this series is Gary Barlow. He just doesn't make good telly. He's a quiet, boring personality, it's why though he was massively successful surrounded by other guys in a band, he bombed as a solo artiste. He's likeable but that's not what being a judge is about. He is NO Simon Cowell. Ironically, he doesn't have the X Factor for TV. Also, he didn't pick the right combo of acts and his mentoring of them is no good. Look at Craig on Saturday night, he looked like a fat bloke taking the rubbish to the bins. Yet he could look great.

Also bombing, after a good start, is Kelly. She can't get the feel of ITV1 and blue-collar Great Britain. It's like the Hoff on BGT, she doesn't pick up nuances and she's probably pretty horrified with how Louis and Tulisa are playing it.
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