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So Tulisa and Kelly have fallen out?
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foxyred
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by elsali:
“Well actually I am with Tulisa on this one. I can understand where Kelly is coming from but if someone was to be mean to her acts and make them feel bad then why not say something on the live show if with this way it can have an immediate effect in their behaviour? It could have happen backstage but since she wanted to mention it live, why not do it?
Maybe Kelly wouldn't have done it, but they are different.”

In the real world we don't get to see the real personalities of artists. We buy their music and they their number ones or whatever. I don't care if they argue or bitch or are divas... if I like the music I'll buy it.

The same applies to the voting, if I like the performance I'll vote. I don't want to know about what has happened prior to the performance... just bring what you got to the stage.

I can imagine Destiny's Child has had some arguments prior to performances but you'd never know... perhaps the same with N Dubz. Would Tulisa get on the stage before a performance and start ranting about how Duppy swore at her or upset her? No, she wouldn't cos the audience doesn't care about that.
granted08
23-10-2011
But Tulisa could have talked to Kelly, Misha or both of them, about Misha's behaviour. Maybe Kelly's annoyed that she didn't get a "head's up" or a warning of how Tulisa felt. To bring that to the live show may have appeared [to Kelly] like Tulisa was trying to bring public negativity onto Misha, and Kelly's not going to let that happen without a fight. The funny thing is, I think Tulisa has a lot of respect for Kelly, and might want the closeness that they had back. It would be nice to see them laugh and mess around like they did in the audition stages. They loved each other at that point.
MTUK1
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by granted08:
“But Tulisa could have talked to Kelly, Misha or both of them, about Misha's behaviour. Maybe Kelly's annoyed that she didn't get a "head's up" or a warning of how Tulisa felt. To bring that to the live show may have appeared [to Kelly] like Tulisa was trying to bring public negativity onto Misha, and Kelly's not going to let that happen without a fight. The funny thing is, I think Tulisa has a lot of respect for Kelly, and might want the closeness that they had back. It would be nice to see them laugh and mess around like they did in the audition stages. They loved each other at that point.”

Of course she got a heads up. If you believe that none of them knew what she was going to say you'll believe anything.
elsali
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by foxyred:
“In the real world we don't get to see the real personalities of artists. We buy their music and they their number ones or whatever. I don't care if they argue or bitch or are divas... if I like the music I'll buy it.

The same applies to the voting, if I like the performance I'll vote. I don't want to know about what has happened prior to the performance... just bring what you got to the stage.

I can imagine Destiny's Child has had some arguments prior to performances but you'd never know... perhaps the same with N Dubz. Would Tulisa get on the stage before a performance and start ranting about how Duppy swore at her or upset her? No, she wouldn't cos the audience doesn't care about that. ”

Yep! what u are saying it's true. So something like this will not affect u or others who think the same. For some people though the behaviour matters. But it's not real world here, is it? It is a show called x factor and people vote. It's not all about the singing. Personality plays a big role. Of course this is my opinion, but i would like to know what is going on backstage Again, it's different personalities. Some people will love Misha even more now and the same people will despise Tulisa. Others that already weren't too keen on Misha, will still not like her. I don't think what Tulisa said will have a massive affect on the votes.
Darcyprincess
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by grimshaw:
“Kelly needs to go - shes too big for her boots and I much prefer Tulisa over her. By a mile.

Tension has been building for weeks - Kelly is being very dividing between the judges - all the arguements were mainly centered around her (well when Gary wasn't being horrid mind)”

I do think that Kelly is rude and obnoxious but she is typical American, brash and out there!

But I think that Gary is dead right and just being totally honest!
mangobutter
23-10-2011
I think what Tulisa said will have an effect on the votes it is impossible that it will not. Its the way things go.
bookclub10
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by elsali:
“Yep! what u are saying it's true. So something like this will not affect u or others who think the same. For some people though the behaviour matters. But it's not real world here, is it? It is a show called x factor and people vote. It's not all about the singing. Personality plays a big role. Of course this is my opinion, but i would like to know what is going on backstage Again, it's different personalities. Some people will love Misha even more now and the same people will despise Tulisa. Others that already weren't too keen on Misha, will still not like her. I don't think what Tulisa said will have a massive affect on the votes.”

Absolutely true...Plus if they did want people to vote only on the performance, they wouldn't show any background stories at the auditions and their vt would only show them practising their singing. Instead we get sob stories galore and footage of lads hitting the town. X factor creates a character for each of these acts, maybe to make them more memorable/ easy to distinguish, and that's why voters don't only vote on the performance. People watch it as a tv show and vote accordingly.
duncann
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by madlh100:
“On The Xtra Factor it was obvious.”

Didn't you watch the results show. It was obvious then. Body language of cold shoulder and quarter away turn SCREAMING from Kelly I am p***ed off with you and Tulisa squirming.

This panel has ZERO chemistry between all 4 of them.
elsali
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by mangobutter:
“I think what Tulisa said will have an effect on the votes it is impossible that it will not. Its the way things go.”

yes it will! but i dont think it will be as massive as people think. I think it will make people opinions about liking an act stronger. If they like Misha, they will love them and if they didn't like Tulisa they will hate her. But if they didn't like Misha to begin with, I don't think they will vote for her just to get back at Tulisa. It is always my opinion though so I could be wrong here.
mangobutter
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“I do think that Kelly is rude and obnoxious but she is typical American, brash and out there!

But I think that Gary is dead right and just being totally honest!”

I dont find Kelly rude at all. She has been in this game since she was 6 and in the US things are taking so much more seriously than over here.
Because Gary and Kelly have achieved such success through pure hard work, they are trying to be professional.
mangobutter
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by elsali:
“yes it will! but i dont think it will be as massive as people think. I think it will make people opinions about liking an act stronger. If they like Misha, they will love them and if they didn't like Tulisa they will hate her. But if they didn't like Misha to begin with, I don't think they will vote for her just to get back at Tulisa. It is always my opinion though so I could be wrong here. ”

I think Misha will be out in around 2 weeks, there is life after xfactor
Julesc78
23-10-2011
Tulisa looked genuinely upset, I think she was told off by the producers and was trying to play it down tonight but its obvious she's not going to be best friends with mischa now, although I'm sure the show will see them supposedly kissing and making up.
mangobutter
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by Julesc78:
“Tulisa looked genuinely upset, I think she was told off by the producers and was trying to play it down tonight but its obvious she's not going to be best friends with mischa now, although I'm sure the show will see them supposedly kissing and making up.”

Tulisa should know in the business how it goes, it is impossible to take back comments, it shows her inexperience to be honest
SAFIAH
23-10-2011
Tulisa is a no talented so an so who is getting too big for her boots. Kelly has the talent and the class and tulisa doent
granted08
23-10-2011
If she was so honest she should have admitted Misha's a threat, she has two group's left and she's crapping herself.
grimshaw
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“But I think that Gary is dead right and just being totally honest!”

Hes lacking what he had in the auditions and judges houses though. A bit of spark,
Atm hes the miserable Uncle in the corner. Hes also not always honest ofc

My problem with Gary is hes a bit unfair to Louis - its a bit Gary/Kelly and Louis/Tulisa.


So maybe just replacing Kelly will give a new feel to things - so maybe I am unfair on him. But he has a long way to go and is a bit fake at times (mainly this week, he slightly overreacted to criticism of himself and went overboard)
mangobutter
23-10-2011
Remember there is only 1 person on that panel that needs to be there.....Tulisa needs this more than any of them ( and yes Kelly is so loaded and has critical aclaim she doesnt need to do the show) Louis has funds and other projects he can busy himself with and Gary is in such demand for song writing and tours he is not doing this because he has to. Tulisa is the one that needs the xfactor and she is playing dirty to get there. I hope The risk do not win, although they are a great band.
Ayo92
23-10-2011
I don't think Tulisa is playing dirty. She has said lots of postive things about Misha, but everyone is fixating on the negative. Conspiracy theorists are annoying. The public has already made up their minds about people, minor things won't sway them.
monalisa62003
23-10-2011
i wouldnt blame kelly for falling out with tulsa. what she did was awful. she talked about personal things just to get another act out because they were a threat to her own.

tbh if this was a genuine move by tulsa i dont think she cares about her acts at all. she just wants to win and will do anything to do that.

micha fans will start to hate her and have her acts out.
granted08
23-10-2011
Or Tulisa fan's won't vote for Kelly's girls.
monalisa62003
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by granted08:
“Or Tulisa fan's won't vote for Kelly's girls.”

but it was tulsa who did the bad thing not kelly
mangobutter
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by monalisa62003:
“i wouldnt blame kelly for falling out with tulsa. what she did was awful. she talked about personal things just to get another act out because they were a threat to her own.

tbh if this was a genuine move by tulsa i dont think she cares about her acts at all. she just wants to win and will do anything to do that.

micha fans will start to hate her and have her acts out.”

I agree with you.
mangobutter
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by Ayo92:
“I don't think Tulisa is playing dirty. She has said lots of postive things about Misha, but everyone is fixating on the negative. Conspiracy theorists are annoying. The public has already made up their minds about people, minor things won't sway them.”

She was totally playing dirty if she meant what she said she should have said I stand by what I said, she instead said "its a competition" which shows that she didnt mean what she said, she just wanted Misha out.
monalisa62003
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by Ayo92:
“I don't think Tulisa is playing dirty. She has said lots of postive things about Misha, but everyone is fixating on the negative. Conspiracy theorists are annoying. The public has already made up their minds about people, minor things won't sway them.”

but if she knows micha is good then she would be a threat to her own
abargill
23-10-2011
Tulisa's the one to blame for all this tension and hoo haa to begin with! u cant bring up random backstage squabbles when judging a performance! wtf

Gary, Kelly or Louis didnt comment on what The Rythmix or The Risk were like backstage did they?! because that has nothing to do with their performance!

i hope from next week Tulisa leaves them type of comments to herself...and makes sure she knows exactly what the "theme" of the week is....x
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