The great Olympic athlete Jesse Owens smoked himself to death. dying from lung cancer at 66, and he was very fit until the symptoms of the illness occurred.
pro dancers who smoke
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Originally Posted by Maisie74:
“Why can't someone be fit and smoke like?
Such nonsense talked on this thread”
“Why can't someone be fit and smoke like?
Such nonsense talked on this thread”
Erm because there's ALWAYS the risk that it can catch up with you! This is a sobering read - incidentally the journalist who was into health and fitness had been a non smoker for a very long time - longer than she had been a smoker for.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20....lifeandhealth
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...ooksobituaries
Originally Posted by *Topaz*:
“Erm because there's ALWAYS the risk that it can catch up with you! This is a sobering read - incidentally the journalist who was into health and fitness had been a non smoker for a very long time - longer than she had been a smoker for.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20....lifeandhealth
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...ooksobituaries”
“Erm because there's ALWAYS the risk that it can catch up with you! This is a sobering read - incidentally the journalist who was into health and fitness had been a non smoker for a very long time - longer than she had been a smoker for.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20....lifeandhealth
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...ooksobituaries”
You don't need to give me links thanks. I am well aware.
Yes it can catch up with you - but then again it just might not. My best friend died of lung cancer and never smoked a fag in her life. I have worked in the medical profession for years and alcohol is far worse for the body.
Don't remember ever seeing a thread on here asking if a pro dancer likes a drink
Just as long as they don't drop dead from a heart attack during a dance, or start a coughing fit, does it really affect our enjoyment of the programme ?
Originally Posted by petertard:
“Just as long as they don't drop dead from a heart attack during a dance, or start a coughing fit, does it really affect our enjoyment of the programme ?”
“Just as long as they don't drop dead from a heart attack during a dance, or start a coughing fit, does it really affect our enjoyment of the programme ?”
Lmao!
Well put
Awww - you gotta love 'em: the finger pointers lmao
It may surprise you to know that the need for a 'whipping boy' is peculiar to America and Britain: strange that isn't it.
Nowhere else frowns on it in quite the same way. Another thing the Brits excel in - being judgemental.
Whether they smoke or not is none of your business. You are quite free to judge their dance ability, their ability to teach others, their ability with choreography; what the hell gives you the right to judge them on their personal choices.
Do any of you finger waggers drive a car? Board an aircraft? Take the bus? You might want to compare what does the most damage to lungs and skin; you might just be surprised.
It may surprise you to know that the need for a 'whipping boy' is peculiar to America and Britain: strange that isn't it.
Nowhere else frowns on it in quite the same way. Another thing the Brits excel in - being judgemental.
Whether they smoke or not is none of your business. You are quite free to judge their dance ability, their ability to teach others, their ability with choreography; what the hell gives you the right to judge them on their personal choices.
Do any of you finger waggers drive a car? Board an aircraft? Take the bus? You might want to compare what does the most damage to lungs and skin; you might just be surprised.
Originally Posted by Maisie74:
“You don't need to give me links thanks. I am well aware.
Yes it can catch up with you - but then again it just might not. My best friend died of lung cancer and never smoked a fag in her life. I have worked in the medical profession for years and alcohol is far worse for the body.
Don't remember ever seeing a thread on here asking if a pro dancer likes a drink”
“You don't need to give me links thanks. I am well aware.
Yes it can catch up with you - but then again it just might not. My best friend died of lung cancer and never smoked a fag in her life. I have worked in the medical profession for years and alcohol is far worse for the body.
Don't remember ever seeing a thread on here asking if a pro dancer likes a drink”
The links weren't specifically for you - just generally for anyone whose interested on the forum and I don't mean to be aggressive but it didn't come across that you were 'aware' in your first post.
Alcohol in moderation is not dangerous for the body - nicotine is. Otherwise why would smoking be banned in public spaces? The late presenter Roy Castle died of passive smoking and he was a non smoker.
Heavy smoking is just as likely to catch up with you as heavy drinking.
Originally Posted by petertard:
“Just as long as they don't drop dead from a heart attack during a dance, or start a coughing fit, does it really affect our enjoyment of the programme ?”
“Just as long as they don't drop dead from a heart attack during a dance, or start a coughing fit, does it really affect our enjoyment of the programme ?”
It doesn't affect my enjoyment of the show no
personally it doesn't bother me if they smoke or not - I gather from this thread one of my favourite pros Vincent smokes - it doesn't make me think any less of him, but I'm entitled to say what I think about smoking generally since the discussion has branched out.
Originally Posted by *Topaz*:
“The links weren't specifically for you - just generally for anyone whose interested on the forum and I don't mean to be aggressive but it didn't come across that you were 'aware' in your first post.
Alcohol in moderation is not dangerous for the body - nicotine is. Otherwise why would smoking be banned in public spaces? The late presenter Roy Castle died of passive smoking and he was a non smoker.
Heavy smoking is just as likely to catch up with you as heavy drinking.”
“The links weren't specifically for you - just generally for anyone whose interested on the forum and I don't mean to be aggressive but it didn't come across that you were 'aware' in your first post.
Alcohol in moderation is not dangerous for the body - nicotine is. Otherwise why would smoking be banned in public spaces? The late presenter Roy Castle died of passive smoking and he was a non smoker.
Heavy smoking is just as likely to catch up with you as heavy drinking.”
No, the nicotine is not bad for you in moderation, that is just the chemical that keeps you hooked, but the carcinogens in the smoke can be. But a few social fags have absolutely no effect on fitness if you are involved in such activities as professional dancing.
Don't confuse the short term effects on lung capacity that cigarettes can sometimes cause with the increased risk of cancer in later life. They are completely separate issues.
When I'm on a night out I dance like a maniac all night, and once in a blue moon may have the occasional fag (on the pretence of 'maintaing conversation' with some smokers going outside to do so )
It hasn't killed me yet
)It hasn't killed me yet
Originally Posted by Snakehips99:
“No, the nicotine is not bad for you in moderation, that is just the chemical that keeps you hooked, but the carcinogens in the smoke can be. But a few social fags have absolutely no effect on fitness if you are involved in such activities as professional dancing.
Don't confuse the short term effects on lung capacity that cigarettes can sometimes cause with the increased risk of cancer in later life. They are completely separate issues.”
“No, the nicotine is not bad for you in moderation, that is just the chemical that keeps you hooked, but the carcinogens in the smoke can be. But a few social fags have absolutely no effect on fitness if you are involved in such activities as professional dancing.
Don't confuse the short term effects on lung capacity that cigarettes can sometimes cause with the increased risk of cancer in later life. They are completely separate issues.”
Ok I stand corrected
as a non smoker I'm not an expert but I think I rember reading that nicotine caused some lung cancers but yes it is mostly the poisons in the smoke that cause cancer.I know some of the England football squad have been papped having a fag - Rooney, Crouch and Cole of the top of my head and they got flack for it from the media because it was around the time of the World cup! My own personal opinion is if you want to be at the peak of fitness to be in with the best chance of being top of your sport - you shouldn't smoke.
Originally Posted by *Topaz*:
“The links weren't specifically for you - just generally for anyone whose interested on the forum and I don't mean to be aggressive but it didn't come across that you were 'aware' in your first post.
Alcohol in moderation is not dangerous for the body - nicotine is. Otherwise why would smoking be banned in public spaces? The late presenter Roy Castle died of passive smoking and he was a non smoker.
Heavy smoking is just as likely to catch up with you as heavy drinking.”
“The links weren't specifically for you - just generally for anyone whose interested on the forum and I don't mean to be aggressive but it didn't come across that you were 'aware' in your first post.
Alcohol in moderation is not dangerous for the body - nicotine is. Otherwise why would smoking be banned in public spaces? The late presenter Roy Castle died of passive smoking and he was a non smoker.
Heavy smoking is just as likely to catch up with you as heavy drinking.”
Oh dear you are shockingly out of touch.
Originally Posted by Maisie74:
“Oh dear you are shockingly out of touch.”
“Oh dear you are shockingly out of touch.”
Funny because that's the reaction I get when reading your posts on this thread
We'll agree to disagree
Mostly it's genetic, you either have a predisposition to cancers and suchlikes or you don't. Both my parents smoked and lived until 88 and 91 respectively. My mum smoked while feeding us as babies and our house was always full of smokers (we were passive smokers if you like) and we ( all 5 of us) are fit and healthy and aged between 66 and 55. It's the luck of the draw. I like to know about peole I watch on tv, if they're married, have kids, enjoy a drink and a smoke - why not, they put themselves in the limelight after all. Good health to everyone, I'm sure all the exercise the dancers get makes up for the odd drink binge and pack of ciggies
When smoking become illegal then everyone can jump on the finger pointing until them leave people to their own free choices.
To smoke or not to smoke that is THEIR question and everyone else should but out.
To smoke or not to smoke that is THEIR question and everyone else should but out.
Originally Posted by Charmaine Camer:
“Mostly it's genetic, you either have a predisposition to cancers and suchlikes or you don't.”
“Mostly it's genetic, you either have a predisposition to cancers and suchlikes or you don't.”
i would think thats likely to be true for the smoking related cancers, but not for other smoking related diseases, such as heart disease, circulatory problems, bronchitis, emphysema etc etc which are much more about wearing out the equipment we all have than drawing a genetic short straw...there is a lot more ill health associated with smoking than cancer.
as for the dancers, i think they are no different to the rest of us. when you are young and fit you think you are immortal.
As long as smokers don't inflict their habit and it's effects etc on others, smoking is a personal choice and no-one else's business.
Perhaps we should have a thread : Should the celebs & pros have sex the night before the show? Please discuss.
Perhaps we should have a thread : Should the celebs & pros have sex the night before the show? Please discuss.
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“Robin,Yes, there is a photo of him arriving at the studios with a cigarette in his hand.
”
“Robin,Yes, there is a photo of him arriving at the studios with a cigarette in his hand.
”
Are you sure?
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“As long as smokers don't inflict their habit and it's effects etc on others, smoking is a personal choice and no-one else's business.
Perhaps we should have a thread : Should the celebs & pros have sex the night before the show? Please discuss.”
“As long as smokers don't inflict their habit and it's effects etc on others, smoking is a personal choice and no-one else's business.
Perhaps we should have a thread : Should the celebs & pros have sex the night before the show? Please discuss.
”
What, with each other?!!
As a smoker myself, it is extremely interesting seeing peoples views on the big issue
I actually think smoking is a private matter, and if the pros wanted to smoke privatly then so they should
I actually think smoking is a private matter, and if the pros wanted to smoke privatly then so they should
Originally Posted by BeethovensPiano:
“Are you sure?”
“Are you sure?
”
Quite sure, I would not have said so otherwise!
Originally Posted by * Becca *:
“Eating wise, I think it's slightly different for a show like this - nobody is gonna lose marks if they're wearing anything more than a size 8, but in the competitive world, your career would pretty much be completely over.”
“Eating wise, I think it's slightly different for a show like this - nobody is gonna lose marks if they're wearing anything more than a size 8, but in the competitive world, your career would pretty much be completely over.”
I can name a few people who were/are more than a size 8 and had very successful careers: Bryan Watson, Melinda, Olga. Can't think of any more right now.
And to add to that, the diets aren't for slimming purposes, they are for fitness. What to eat and when to eat to get the best out of your body. That's the way it is between the top dancers, anyway.
And England by the way is no where near as bad as eastern europe when it comes to dieting. It was such an eye-opening experience when I moved here, and I'm glad I came when I did and didn't spend too many of my teen years there. I think most of the dieting and obsessiveness that some dancers have over their physique is cultural rather than just down to the competitive circuit.
Originally Posted by petertard:
“How can Ola stand James if he's a tosser and a smoker ?”
“How can Ola stand James if he's a tosser and a smoker ?”
You don't have to do both at the same time, you know. It's not compulsory.
I'd love to see Ola with a fag in her mouth, and I don't mean one of the male dancers. I mean like one of the french resistance with their gauloises and black stockings... Maybe I should butt out now.
Originally Posted by blackberry000:
“I can name a few people who were/are more than a size 8 and had very successful careers: Bryan Watson, Melinda, Olga. Can't think of any more right now.”
“I can name a few people who were/are more than a size 8 and had very successful careers: Bryan Watson, Melinda, Olga. Can't think of any more right now.”
Melinda? She's tiny! Olga? Olga who? I can't recall offhand any large girl called Olga ever dancing, so maybe before my time in that case.
Bryan, yes, but it's slightly different for guys seeing as though most are fairly muscly, for example Riccardo who is a fairly chunky shape, so being overly slim isn't always possible.
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