Hi christie how are you? Has Dans arm healed ok , is he back playing cricket

hey cheeky glad u back love all your transcirpes cant what for next one u certainly know how to anaylise these pair love to see your your thoughs on jos and luke lol

pas it wasnt his arm it was his foot lol he is in grand carany at moment having good time looks like england need him not doing to good in india at the momment lol

oopsy wrong part of the anatomy! he gets to go all over the place Yep england do need some help getting runs, maybe they will do ok tomorrow

hi pas let u of for anatomy dan haviving a good time dont know what his futher is got trails set up only hope they come of great talking to someone in cricket terms . Kown thread john and jos but hey we talk about are kids and want the best for them

of bed work tomorrow sa la ve what will be will be john and jos can only make this happen is time and distance to long hopefully not but got to say happy jos seems happy wiyh luke? and john well we dont realy know how hes ? night x

Can't sleep ... tummy pains


I think so yes


Hmm... my post was agreeing with Gussie's posts, saying how much I love my ex-engagement ring and offering up another scenario as to why a person might wear a piece of jewellery that a former b/f gave them. Hardly negative, but thanks for the critique


Me too. And I do think you are more complex than you think you are... or perhaps that is just how I see you... and I don't mean that as a negative , I really like complex people, there are so many layers to uncover whilst getting to know them


I'm sure she won't... the pics are out there on the interweb


Very positive


I absolutely agree with you Pas If Josie's happy that's a good thing, bound to be insecure with her relationship history I agree; the moving in seems to be a necessary situation rather than a planned-for one, perhaps she is nervous because it was sooner than they would have intended due to the circumstances with Luke's flat, and so she may be worried it's too much pressure on a fledgeling relationship... however it could also be the making of it, who knows They seem to have lots in common and planning a holiday together is a positive thing.

John, by all accounts, is enjoying his life too (barring having the situation regarding his father's employers going on recently), so it's great all around. Never had reason to doubt the Luke relationship, never had reason to doubt the Sherrie relationship. The publicity, etc., about both well that's a different situation.



I prefer the way Pas said it

In the words of my current favourite from BB

Oh Dear

As a very long time lurker and a very scant poster it upsets me that an appreciation thread as long as this and as a faithful thread as this seems to be falling apart at the seams.

I like both John and Josie and I accept that they are no longer together and have found new people to love and care for and am happy for both of them.

To me whilst I adored their love story I think it was also a need that both of them had to have as we all know that before BB both of them were in dark places. By their own admissions John was living the life of a hermit and Josie was mixing with the wrong people. Josie gave John the experiance of feeling a deep love something which he said he had never had as he had never been in love before and John gave Josie confidence and security and the feeling of being loved which Josie admitted in BB that she 'had never been loved'
Two flawed young persons who got what they needed from each other but couldn't stay together. Sad but it happens every day.

Now having felt what they needed they are now in different relationships. John with Sherrie and while we don't know anything about her or what they are doing day in and and day out they have been together for over 6 months and I'm happy for John to be content.
Josie has also found a new relationship with Luke, taking it slow, doing the things that young couples do, dancing, meals, partys, meeting each others family and friends. I'm happy for Josie to be content.

Thats my stance

We hear a lot about Josie so she is more easier to talk about but for heavens sake in an appreciation thread you do not mock and deride the person whose name is in the title.
If you truly feel that way go on to the main forum and start up your own 'lets mock Josies new relationship thread' and trust me there would be a lot of people on there who would join you and you can be as cynical on there to your hearts content.

I remember that at the height of this thread prolific posters like Brit X for example going out on to the main forum and getting sent on a short holidayin the process to fight the good fight against post in the main forum that had just the same tone and meaning as some of the posts I have read on here.

Please have respect for the thread and all the posters that went before you who built this up but most importantly please have respect for the two young human beings whose names appear above every page.

I'm just gonna say that I haven't changed one bit in the months and I am not treating Josie's mag revelations any different to how I treated Johns all those months back - read my posts

I'm sorry but when things don't ring true for me - I say so - I guess I'm rather forthright.

Now I will say - and this is my honest opinions

If I am wrong and they are both living happily in new relationships - bravo - well done to them and I honestly would be reaaaally reaaaally happy for them - but like I said - I post my honest thoughts on different situations and I won't change that.

Does that mean that I don't appreciate them - well in some people's mind it does so I'll just have to accept that - in my mind though ....

I'll say it like this - I looooove my kids to bits but does this mean that

a) I can't see their flaws
b) I think they are angels who can do no wrong
c) I think they tell the truth 100% of the time

Answer to all these - NO!

The fact that I can see those flaws and still love them means that I love them unconditionally.

That is all!

Well said. And I hope you never change. The regular posters on here love you so please ignore the ones that appear out of the woodwork only to criticise.

totally off topic but on daybreak there are two little girls on ones called Sophia and the other Rosie! Both together -they are me! lol Cant sing like that mind!

Well said Lover xx

Morning on a sh*tty rainy day!

I agree with the above - I've always maintained that was how I was able to appreciate John James & Josie and still do.

They aren't perfect, they aren't saints! Neither of them is a hero.

John is John & Josie is Josie.

And thank the wee man for that!

goodmorning to all, we seem to have had quite a few visitors overnight with their own opinions on jjj
of course they are entitled to them, a bit black and white where to me there are quite a lot of grey area, time will tell

Hey, pas.
I wasn't going to post in here any more but heyho I've lost count of the number of times I've said that. I saw your post - and just wanted to say I totally agree with you. I haven't been reading in here over the last day or so, apart from a quick skim but I got the general gist. And I haven't read the column which has generated the talk, I presume. I am so glad Josie is happy at the moment. I think she is just enjoying her life - a fella for her to have a good time with, her career seeming to be where she wants it to be and flitting to and fro between Bristol and London. She's got her own pad and a couple of others too. I hope she continues like this.

Good to see you. And please pop into the Sanatorium some time.
Kay xxx

I dont have face book but wouldent snup at eaney one fb and if there happy i am but it my apinyon that there not

Funny that,it's exactly how I felt about the jat thread a couple of weeks ago

im with you deb all the way, i do want her to be happy, but to me there is no sparkle

John's travelled a lot, he told everyone this in BB, where he'd been, what he'd seen. In BB Josie and he talked about going to ibiza and mexico, it just didn't happen, not together anyhow. John socialises all the time with his mates in OZ, dinners out, movies, clubs, football games, concerts etc maybe he just likes group activities rather than going on dates with a girl because he also said he'd never been on a date before even though he'd had a girlfriend for two years previously. Or maybe it's easier in OZ because no one knows him other than as Johnny, he's not John off BB ie no hassle from strangers when he goes out or fear that someone with an attitude might approach him and give him grief.

I think it was exaggerated too in the same way as throwing a lipstick and coathanger was exaggerated to make Josie look like a violent domestic abuser instead of someone who gets to a certain point in arguments where she looses control and instead of being able to handle the frustration snaps and lashes out physically, John and Josie even laughed about it in BB with John admitting he did the same thing to his mum ie pushed her and hounded her in arguments, even following her to the bathroom to continue.........

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg5...ohn_shortfilms

Josie has since said outside the house John didn't back down


Cynical would imply there's something to be cynical about, I think it's more a case of some people wanting something not to be true rather than being open to the possibility that it is just the truth.


Josie was 9 times a DAY 'nine times!', John was 7 time a NIGHT 'I was really sore!' his average therefore more like 14, but whose counting, only those of us who are equally as unclassy or sex mad no doubt


Unless you're someone with a history like Josie's 'I don't want to be in love Rach, it's hurtful' 'it all goes tits up when you love em' 'normally when you've got those kind of feelings someone gets hurt' ie me , 'I don't like chatting about feelings' 'I just get scared'

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xft...oky_shortfilms


No there isn't really in fact it would be quite natural after coming out of a bad relationship where there were problems in terms of the two people wanting and needing different things from each other to seek in new partners the exact opposite which seems to be the case with both John and Josie.

Laid back, easy going, never been so happy, likes to do the things I do, doesn't argue, gets on with friends, family ........who am I describing Luke or Sherrie.


Agree


Agree

Morning everyone i'm not in a good mood today.

I think I can tell!!!

Well well well. I see the jat have come in to tell us off again. Really, JAT, Really. Did we call Josie names, did we say she was the worst type of human being? No some are just a little sceptical at all of the happiness talk. Of course we are happy if Josie is happy. Of course we want John to be happy. I agree Josie has been hurt, taking her time, (BF moving in , in a couple of months) seems happy etc. Fantastic. Really .
However call me a catty cow but draw me up a checklist of everything that is wrong with John and we have Lukey. Draw me up a checklist of Josie's failings and who do you have? But then again we arent watching them 24hr a days, I dont know them personally and therefore have no inside information on their exact feelings and plans as some do, I dont read their personal facebook pages etc so I take what i see on the mag articles. And lets face it even the John and Josie ones up till the end papered over the cracks.
I am pleased Josie is having some fun , she deserves it, so does John.

I apologise to the JAT late shift who take exception to anybody having a sense of humour about situations. I will repeat the mantra " THOU SHALL NOT LAUGH ON THE THREAD OR MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT JOSIE." at least 100 times a day as penance for my catty cowishness.

Morning all, lovely day Kaye I don't think i've ever seen you in a bad mood It's hello and goodbye this morning, have to go out,bbl

Lol, brilliant, I'll do my penance while i'm drinking my coffee

Please don't say the 'JAT' came in here and told you off because they didn't. One person was rude and out of order (sorry grassy but it was) Pas and Ferfer just gave you their opinions on the article and several people agreed with them.

And to the people who said 'we don't go in your thread' etc - I don't understand all this 'us' and 'them' stuff. In fact the JAT has had 'visitors' before but it's not a big deal because we're all allowed to post wherever we want. At the end of the day it's just a different perspective shared why do people get angry about it?