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Inky Binky
09-01-2012
I think someone asked about the picture quality of streaming HD films. Films that are available for streaming in HD will only look great if you have a fast connection. It's not quite 1080p but it's very decent - at least in the US. If you don't have a fast connection, you'll still be able to watch HD films but their quality will be pretty poor.

And good news for those who are hearing impaired. Netflix has started adding subtitles for many of their films & TV selections (you have the option of turning it on or off). More are being added throughout the year (it's a huge library so it's going to take a lot of time). I don't think subtitles are available for those who are streaming it on their ipads though.
BigFoot87
09-01-2012
I think you can get HD from Netflix with 2.8Mb of bandwidth, but (according to the FAQs), you can stream content with a 0.5Mb connection.

This is a good read:
http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419...allenge-bskyb/

Looks like they have plans to take on Sky for Movies - GOOD! We desperately need competition in this area (ex & current Sky shareholders on DS will disagree I'm sure).

Also their happy to co-exist with Lovefilm and suggest people will subscribe to both services - that would cost £10.98 which is a damn sight cheaper then any Pay-TV subscription I know of.
noise747
09-01-2012
Originally Posted by daleski75:
“My mate struggles to watch dvd's when he gets them and can go back anytime and he has used netflix for quite a while and it's flawless.”

Why and how do your mate struggle to watch DVDs? In the 4 and a half years or so I been with lovefilm, including the small amount of time i was suing them under the Sainsburys banner, I have had less than a hand full of disks that was faulty and some of them just needed a clean.


I decided to take a look at Netflix, but to be honest I am not that impressed, I watched a couple of things this evening, but the quality is not that great to be honest. Which proves my point that you need a fast broadband speed to get decent quality 3,5Megabits just don't cut it.

I also think the choice is pretty awful, and the GUI for the PS3 is also naff, more interested in in putting content on the front end that they think i am interested in, something which they have no idea since they don't know me and I have not used them before. i prefer a list I can browse.

I will keep it for the week and then cancel over the weekend, I may keep it for next week as I am on holiday from work and see if it gets better.

but i am not going to keep both lovefilm and Netflix, since I am not going to get rid of Lovefilm, Netflix will go.
noise747
09-01-2012
Originally Posted by BigFoot87:
“I think you can get HD from Netflix with 2.8Mb of bandwidth, but (according to the FAQs), you can stream content with a 0.5Mb connection.

This is a good read:
http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419...allenge-bskyb/

Looks like they have plans to take on Sky for Movies - GOOD! We desperately need competition in this area (ex & current Sky shareholders on DS will disagree I'm sure).

Also their happy to co-exist with Lovefilm and suggest people will subscribe to both services - that would cost £10.98 which is a damn sight cheaper then any Pay-TV subscription I know of.”

No they are not happy to co-exist with Lovefilm, if they can knock Lovefilm out they will do so. No doubt Lovefilm will do the same thing if they could.

It seems that subscribing to netflix is not going to put any money into our economy, it will all go to the U.S.A, but our networks will still have to cope with the increased traffic.

Reed Hastings CEO seems to be interested in his back pocket and nothing else.
BigFoot87
09-01-2012
Originally Posted by noise747:
“No they are not happy to co-exist with Lovefilm, if they can knock Lovefilm out they will do so. No doubt Lovefilm will do the same thing if they could.

It seems that subscribing to netflix is not going to put any money into our economy, it will all go to the U.S.A, but our networks will still have to cope with the increased traffic.

Reed Hastings CEO seems to be interested in his back pocket and nothing else.”

So should he. He's running a business. Sky relied buying on US imports for years - still do, and I don't people complaining about them despite all the money paid to US networks for those imports.

And it can be useful for businesses to work together, even for a while (Sky-ESPN shared production facilities until this season).

If our networks can't cope with he traffic, they need to upgrade, no? Something they would have to do regardless of what the additional traffic is or who is responsible for it, and as someone who doesn't think our network is up to standard to cope with streaming services, why would those upgrades be a problem?

That's like Americans complaining about the additional traffic generated by the international version of BBC iPlayer Statewise. I bet they spend more time actually enjoying the content.
packages
09-01-2012
Originally Posted by noise747:
“Why and how do your mate struggle to watch DVDs? In the 4 and a half years or so I been with lovefilm, including the small amount of time i was suing them under the Sainsburys banner, I have had less than a hand full of disks that was faulty and some of them just needed a clean.


I decided to take a look at Netflix, but to be honest I am not that impressed, I watched a couple of things this evening, but the quality is not that great to be honest. Which proves my point that you need a fast broadband speed to get decent quality 3,5Megabits just don't cut it.

I also think the choice is pretty awful, and the GUI for the PS3 is also naff, more interested in in putting content on the front end that they think i am interested in, something which they have no idea since they don't know me and I have not used them before. i prefer a list I can browse.

I will keep it for the week and then cancel over the weekend, I may keep it for next week as I am on holiday from work and see if it gets better.

but i am not going to keep both lovefilm and Netflix, since I am not going to get rid of Lovefilm, Netflix will go.”

At 3.5mb you should be getting a High SD picture, maybe Medium HD picture. At worst it would be better than LoveFilm's picture, which is awful to say the least.
noise747
10-01-2012
Originally Posted by BigFoot87:
“So should he. He's running a business. Sky relied buying on US imports for years - still do, and I don't people complaining about them despite all the money paid to US networks for those imports.”

It is just the way he speaks and his way, something about him I don't like. it is like , you will use us, we will beat everyone, we will be top dog, you will use streaming.

Sky is no better to be honest, but at least they do emply a few people in the U.K, Netflix will not employ one person in the U.K.
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And it can be useful for businesses to work together, even for a while (Sky-ESPN shared production facilities until this season).”


You mean like Netflix and Facebook.

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“If our networks can't cope with he traffic, they need to upgrade, no? Something they would have to do regardless of what the additional traffic is or who is responsible for it, and as someone who doesn't think our network is up to standard to cope with streaming services, why would those upgrades be a problem?”

And we will pay for it, Already Bt have put their prices up, lets see who follows. Let see how many more ISps put more limits on.



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“That's like Americans complaining about the additional traffic generated by the international version of BBC iPlayer Statewise. I bet they spend more time actually enjoying the content.”

Not my concern, i don't live in America.
noise747
10-01-2012
Originally Posted by packages:
“At 3.5mb you should be getting a High SD picture, maybe Medium HD picture. At worst it would be better than LoveFilm's picture, which is awful to say the least.”

How can yo get medium Hd? If it is medium then it is not HD, it is just highly compressed video.

i don't use lovefilm streaming, i was not going to pay for a service that I would not use, which is why I stay on the lower DVd tarrif.

anyway, I now canceled my netflix account already, not impressed to even keep it for a month, but they are not cancelling it right away anyway, allowing me to use it for the month if I want.


going to change my card number so they can't take money out.


Ok, it seems once you cancelled you can't change the card, I hope they delete it then
azimo
10-01-2012
Originally Posted by mrkite77:
“I imagine they'll get there eventually, just look at the US version. I think at last check Netflix US has 20,000 titles in their streaming library. Although the library does rotate a lot. I'll have stuff in my queue that becomes unavailable for a few months, and then comes back. (and I'll have stuff in my queue for years. I've had Toy Story 3 sitting in my netflix instant queue for over a year now. I'll get around to watching it eventually)

Netflix also had some exclusive stuff. For example, season 2 of Jeremiah came out on dvd in 2010, but has been available to stream since 2007.”

Oh I agree, Netflix will get alot more content its just at the minute they don't have that much and for £5.99 a month its not great value, Netflix launching here in the UK is good competition for Lovefilm which is good for us
tony le mesmer
10-01-2012
Originally Posted by noise747:
“How can yo get medium Hd? If it is medium then it is not HD, it is just highly compressed video.”

HD describes the resolution of the picture, not the quality of the encoding.
iHelix
10-01-2012
I signed up today and although the library isn't perfect right now, and pales in comparison to the US catalogue, I think that I'll be sticking with it beyond the trial period. I've already watched several episodes of Twin Peaks and Charmed (which I have wanted to watch for ages) and the HD quality of TP was rather good for something over twenty years old, especially on my Xbox. I've had no problems at all with the streaming.

If they can the content library as close to the US one as possible, I will give them my money every month and not think twice about it.
1andrew1
10-01-2012
Originally Posted by noise747:
“ Sky is no better to be honest, but at least they do emply a few people in the U.K, Netflix will not employ one person in the U.K.”

I think that's a good point although Sky employ not a few but a a few thousand people! There are no UK jobs advertised on Netflix's website and the call centre is based in the US. Interestingly, Netflix warned that the international expansion would adversely impact its profits. I guess that the main costs here are advertising. Quite a bold running everything from the US but presumably it's cheaper and might change in the long term.
mersey70
10-01-2012
Seems quite good, streaming quality is excellent. The TV choice is a bit sparse but i'm sure it will improve.

It can only be good for competition.
c00kiemonster72
10-01-2012
I watched a couple of episodes of South Park on the iPad last night in bed, and found a slight problem. I paused the programme I was watching and resumed when in bed and found it kept freezing on me
The next episode I didn't pause, just watched straight through and that ran perfectly

To anyone who thinks the library of titles to watch isn't very good they should check out box office 365 on freesat, now that is dire
daleski75
10-01-2012
Originally Posted by noise747:
“Why and how do your mate struggle to watch DVDs? In the 4 and a half years or so I been with lovefilm, including the small amount of time i was suing them under the Sainsburys banner, I have had less than a hand full of disks that was faulty and some of them just needed a clean.


I decided to take a look at Netflix, but to be honest I am not that impressed, I watched a couple of things this evening, but the quality is not that great to be honest. Which proves my point that you need a fast broadband speed to get decent quality 3,5Megabits just don't cut it.

I also think the choice is pretty awful, and the GUI for the PS3 is also naff, more interested in in putting content on the front end that they think i am interested in, something which they have no idea since they don't know me and I have not used them before. i prefer a list I can browse.

I will keep it for the week and then cancel over the weekend, I may keep it for next week as I am on holiday from work and see if it gets better.

but i am not going to keep both lovefilm and Netflix, since I am not going to get rid of Lovefilm, Netflix will go.”

Ahhh my mate struggles to find time to watch dvd's (he gets 3 a week) not the fact that the dvd's are scratched or anything

From what he tells me he is down the gym 4 times a week plus whatever else he is doing so has little time to watch dvd's and when he does get time he prefers to use netflix to watch content depending on his mood.
daleski75
10-01-2012
Netflix won't suit everyone and the people with fast internet connections would benefit the most, I have a 30mb VM one and it's very quick in pulling down content from my ATV and streaming is 100% rock solid.

My viewing habits have gone from wanting the absolute best picture and sound (blu-ray, high end hifi) to watching pretty much everything on-demand film wise and the quality suits me down to the ground for the convenience of being able to watch what i want when i want and any genre without being in the 'mood to watch a dvd through the post'
mrkite77
10-01-2012
Here's a little something for you guys:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...ojcnooolhbdlgo

It's a chrome extension that enables the Instant Queue for the countries that don't have it.

I don't know if adding stuff to your instant queue will make an instant queue category show up on your devices (xbox etc) though..
noise747
10-01-2012
Originally Posted by tony le mesmer:
“HD describes the resolution of the picture, not the quality of the encoding.”

I do know that. but many other people don't and when something says it is in Hd, you do expect a certain amount of quality.

what is the point in Hd if it is no better than watching good Sd?
noise747
10-01-2012
Originally Posted by 1andrew1:
“I think that's a good point although Sky employ not a few but a a few thousand people! There are no UK jobs advertised on Netflix's website and the call centre is based in the US. Interestingly, Netflix warned that the international expansion would adversely impact its profits. I guess that the main costs here are advertising. Quite a bold running everything from the US but presumably it's cheaper and might change in the long term.”

Netflix CEO said that it will all be run from California, so they are putting nothing into the economy of the countries they are in. I do think this is disgusting to be honest, if they want to offer a service over here then they should put something into the economy of our country. At least Lovefilm do employ a few people, how many I have no idea.

Yep,it is the advertising and the promotion that is going to cost Netflix, no doubt giving eveyone a free month will not help.


No wonder they don't want to have a DVd rental service.
noise747
10-01-2012
Originally Posted by c00kiemonster72:
“I watched a couple of episodes of South Park on the iPad last night in bed, and found a slight problem. I paused the programme I was watching and resumed when in bed and found it kept freezing on me
The next episode I didn't pause, just watched straight through and that ran perfectly”

I had no problem with that, I paused Mythbusters as I went for a coffee and it was ok and Warehouse 13 half way through to take a phone call. both started ok and no freezing.

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“To anyone who thinks the library of titles to watch isn't very good they should check out box office 365 on freesat, now that is dire”


Never heard of it,
BigFoot87
10-01-2012
Originally Posted by noise747:
“It is just the way he speaks and his way, something about him I don't like. it is like , you will use us, we will beat everyone, we will be top dog, you will use streaming.

Sky is no better to be honest, but at least they do emply a few people in the U.K, Netflix will not employ one person in the U.K.”

Yet. And lets not forget, other streaming services like Lovefilm DO employ people over here.

Originally Posted by noise747:
“You mean like Netflix and Facebook.”

Which isn't required to use Netflix? Yeah I guess. Facebook isn't involved in the day-to-day running of Netflix, unlike the eariler Sky-ESPN production partnership.

Originally Posted by noise747:
“And we will pay for it, Already Bt have put their prices up, lets see who follows. Let see how many more ISps put more limits on.”

BT and other ISPs don't need to wait for Netflix to put their prices up and or introduce caps. They've done that long before now and would have do again regardless of what Netflix do or where in the world they operate.

Originally Posted by noise747:
“Not my concern, i don't live in America.”

And its not my concern about network upgrades in the UK. That's the ISPs and the Goverments problem who know that upgrading the network would benefit the economy and have comitted as such with upgrades (in particular, BT and their BT Connect CDN).
noise747
10-01-2012
Originally Posted by daleski75:
“Ahhh my mate struggles to find time to watch dvd's (he gets 3 a week) not the fact that the dvd's are scratched or anything

From what he tells me he is down the gym 4 times a week plus whatever else he is doing so has little time to watch dvd's and when he does get time he prefers to use netflix to watch content depending on his mood.”

ah i see.

I do know what he means to be honest, I was getting 3 disks at a time unlimited at one point, £12 something it was then a month, I think. But I found I did not have the time to watch them so it was money wasted, which is why I went down to two a month.

Don't get me wrong the idea of on demand content is good, yesterday when I tried out Netflix i thought this is great that I can just pick stuff to watch there and then.


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Originally Posted by daleski75:
“Netflix won't suit everyone and the people with fast internet connections would benefit the most, I have a 30mb VM one and it's very quick in pulling down content from my ATV and streaming is 100% rock solid.”


This is it, if yo got a good internet connection you may be fine, that is if it stays reliable. Mine is fine, it is my routers that let me down. My thomson is getting old and my Netgear is a pile of rubbish.

As the fibre network is laid out then maybe streaming will become the norm, but it depends on reliability.

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“My viewing habits have gone from wanting the absolute best picture and sound (blu-ray, high end hifi) to watching pretty much everything on-demand film wise and the quality suits me down to the ground for the convenience of being able to watch what i want when i want and any genre without being in the 'mood to watch a dvd through the post'”

i like my Blu-ray, the so called HD that netflix offers is pretty naff to be honest, on 3.5 Megabits.

We also got the problem which I have said about a few weeks back, a friend of mine decided to try netflix last night, she was watching something on it and her Daughter upstairs started to use her computer to download something, that was it Netflix quality went right downhill and started to freeze.

So friend decided it is a waste of money on the broadband she have got and will think again about it if she moves or when/if they get fibre.

I still got a disk from lovefilm that I have to watch, had it here for a week now, so will watch that tonight when I come home from work if I got the Netbook I am working on fixed.
methodyguy
10-01-2012
Watched the very first episode of Prision Break last night and the quality was very good.
nimitron
10-01-2012
I tried to watch Breaking Bad last night but it said this program is not allowed to be streamed or something did anyone else get this problem?
methodyguy
10-01-2012
Originally Posted by nimitron:
“I tried to watch Breaking Bad last night but it said this program is not allowed to be streamed or something did anyone else get this problem?”

It was working ok for me.
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