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Old 27-11-2011, 23:23
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i agree that On-demand is the future, but how far into the future is another thing. Being able to turn on your t.v and choose what you want to watch and when have to be better than the linier system we got now.

The problem is as you pointed out is our network. the other problem is price, you look at some of the prices these on-demand service charge, some charges £3 or more for a film.

The whole system is going to be fragmented, look at You view, according to them there will be a few services on there but to get them you will have to pay each supplier.

I think it will all be confusing to the public and also expensive.
Agree with you on price and this should come down when we get stronger competition. The cost benefits of streaming need to be shared with consumers.

The YouView payment model is a bit unknown at the moment. If you get a YouView box from the likes of TalkTalk or BT, you may well end up paying them and not the likes of BlinkBox, LoveFilm etc. If you get it independently, you may have to sign up to each provider.
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Old 27-11-2011, 23:36
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but you are looking at larger numbers in the states, i expect there are far more people in the states with Cable or decent broadband than there is int his country, so that would mean a lot more people can support a decent streaming service than those who can in this country/
Many times more people have cable in the USA than there are people in the UK, but it's a vastly larger country
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Old 28-11-2011, 08:39
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Agree with you on price and this should come down when we get stronger competition. The cost benefits of streaming need to be shared with consumers.
you look at Netflix, Lovefilm and others and most of them is a subscription, so yes prices will come down if you subscribe, but not if you want to grab the odd video.

Subscription is not really on demand is it? On-demand ion my view is a box under the T.V, where you can get services from different suppliers, pick what you want to watch and then pay a minimal amount for doing so, not being tied into a subscription and paying for stuff you don't want to watch.

this is the problem with any pay t.v service, sky, Bt vision, virgin, even top up T.V.

The YouView payment model is a bit unknown at the moment. If you get a YouView box from the likes of TalkTalk or BT, you may well end up paying them and not the likes of BlinkBox, LoveFilm etc. If you get it independently, you may have to sign up to each provider.
It is already known that providers on the you View platform have to make their own payment system, so who ever who have it from, you still have to set up different direct debits for different providers, that is if it gets any and if the system is any good.


Oh well it is not going to make much difference to me, I will stick with Lovefilm as I am at the moment, I only get two disks a month anyway,

Maybe one day we will get a decent on demand system in this country, mind you by that time may be about 80 years of age if I live that long.
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Old 28-11-2011, 08:40
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Many times more people have cable in the USA than there are people in the UK, but it's a vastly larger country
so a bigger market for Netflix streaming and more people that got a better broadband service than we have in this country.
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Old 31-12-2011, 21:54
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Anybody got a accurate date of launch/cost etc? I for one are very much looking forward to Netflix uk
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Old 31-12-2011, 23:24
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Anyone care to explain why everyone is gagging for Netflix which runs on Silverlight yet Lovefilm is being slammed left, right and centre for changing to Silverlight?
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Old 01-01-2012, 14:04
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Old 01-01-2012, 16:14
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Anyone care to explain why everyone is gagging for Netflix which runs on Silverlight yet Lovefilm is being slammed left, right and centre for changing to Silverlight?
I don't understand it myself either. content is no good if you can't play it.

as I have said I don't use the lovefilm streaming service, so Lovefilm will do what I want, netflix won't.

No one knows what Netflix will be like in this country, you can't go by what they are like in the states.
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Old 01-01-2012, 17:03
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No one knows what Netflix will be like in this country, you can't go by what they are like in the states.
No you can't - how many American companies come over here with big ideas just to go bust after a couple of years?.
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Old 02-01-2012, 00:02
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Anyone care to explain why everyone is gagging for Netflix which runs on Silverlight yet Lovefilm is being slammed left, right and centre for changing to Silverlight?
Most people don't use Netflix on their PC... apparently half of netflix users stream with their game console (xbox, wii, ps3). So silverlight doesn't really matter.
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Old 02-01-2012, 00:08
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It does to the other half who don't have a games console. What percentage of households have one of those anyway?
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Old 02-01-2012, 00:39
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It does to the other half who don't have a games console. What percentage of households have one of those anyway?
The other half can spend $50 on a Roku. There's really no reason not to have netflix on your TV.
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Old 02-01-2012, 07:24
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The other half can spend $50 on a Roku. There's really no reason not to have netflix on your TV.
Yes there is.


Lack of broadband, bad quality broadband, cost of subscription. also maybe someone don't want it, so there are reasons.


The way you say it is as if we should all have netflix.

DVD/bluray is far better than streaming, no chance of problems with broadband, lack of bandwidth, server breakdown and any other amount of problems that can affect streaming.,

With a DVd/blue-ray just pop the disk in the player, switch T.v on and watch in better quality than what streaming can do over most peoples broadband in this country.
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:42
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The other half can spend $50 on a Roku. There's really no reason not to have netflix on your TV.
Won't touch Netflix until they can offer me PQ what rivals that of the Sky Movies HD channels , my BB speed with Sky Unlimited is around 9mb what does Netflix in the states require to stream HD movies and what's the quality like ?
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:58
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The other half can spend $50 on a Roku.
Why on earth spend money on something which offers crippled access to only a selection of what is available?
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Old 02-01-2012, 14:09
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Won't touch Netflix until they can offer me PQ what rivals that of the Sky Movies HD channels
It's unlikely to happen
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Old 02-01-2012, 19:55
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Won't touch Netflix until they can offer me PQ what rivals that of the Sky Movies HD channels , my BB speed with Sky Unlimited is around 9mb what does Netflix in the states require to stream HD movies and what's the quality like ?
That's rubbish - I currently get about 3mps and run BBC I player in HD via LG blu ray. Netflix will be available amongst pretty much everything, including Apple TV, Sony Bravia, LG, Samsung, Youview, Windows, IPhone, IPad, Android
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Old 02-01-2012, 20:29
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I can't wait until Netflix launches over here as I really do think that the future is in Streaming.
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Old 02-01-2012, 20:35
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That's rubbish - I currently get about 3mps and run BBC I player in HD via LG blu ray. Netflix will be available amongst pretty much everything, including Apple TV, Sony Bravia, LG, Samsung, Youview, Windows, IPhone, IPad, Android
Hd with 3 Megabits? may be able to get 720 with that, but 1080 will certainly be a no go, i get over 3megabits and 1080 is a no go for me, I can watch 720 just about.

We will see how well netflix do.Most streaming of video in this country is via free services like BBC Iplayer, will people be prepared to pay for streaming? that is another thing.
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Old 02-01-2012, 20:36
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I can't wait until Netflix launches over here as I really do think that the future is in Streaming.
Me neither. Very exciting. What date do you think they will launch? Customers in the US love it, and they mean business in the UK already signed up two major film studios, BBC and ITV pending

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Old 02-01-2012, 20:38
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I can't wait until Netflix launches over here as I really do think that the future is in Streaming.
Not for many years, even with a fibre service of 40 megabits which is suppose to be the norm in this country, get a couple of people watching a full Hd video and another couple of people using the net and at the same time and you may see the problem with streaming. Also take in account of broadband going belly up, dropped connections and you will realise that physical media is the best way.

since My t.v licence comes to the end at the end of this month, I think I will be updating my Lovefilm subscription from two disks per month to maybe 3.
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Old 02-01-2012, 20:41
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Me neither. Very exciting. What date do you think they will launch? Customers in the US love it, and they mean business in the UK already signed up two major film studios, BBC and ITV pending

I think they might launch about end of February or early March. We have Apple TV so we are pretty used to streaming. I really think that Netflix will be very popular over here.
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Old 02-01-2012, 20:43
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Not for many years, even with a fibre service of 40 megabits which is suppose to be the norm in this country, get a couple of people watching a full Hd video and another couple of people using the net and at the same time and you may see the problem with streaming. Also take in account of broadband going belly up, dropped connections and you will realise that physical media is the best way.

since My t.v licence comes to the end at the end of this month, I think I will be updating my Lovefilm subscription from two disks per month to maybe 3.
If u have a good reliable BB supplier as we have then these problems will not occur.
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Old 02-01-2012, 21:23
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If u have a good reliable BB supplier as we have then these problems will not occur.
No broadband is 100% and what about people who don't live next door to the exchange?

My broadband supplier is pretty good, but even they can't magic up more bandwidth.

Broadband do go down, you may not realise sometimes, but if you streaming stuff and the broadband goes belly up, you are stuck, simple as that.

As you are waiting for your broadband to get back up and running I am sitting down watching a nice blu-ray in full Hd.
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Old 02-01-2012, 21:30
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That's rubbish - I currently get about 3mps and run BBC I player in HD via LG blu ray. Netflix will be available amongst pretty much everything, including Apple TV, Sony Bravia, LG, Samsung, Youview, Windows, IPhone, IPad, Android
Not being rude but try and read what I put , I was asking what connection is needed to stream a movie at a similar quality to the Sky Movies HD channels , the BBC I player HD is a long way from Sky Movies in High Def.
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