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Old 25-10-2011, 22:40
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Theres no doubt, Johnny is recieving the gay vote.
I'd say Marcus and The Risk are.

Marcus because he is gay and attractive, and The Risk because they are reasonably attractive.

As a poster has already pointed out, I'm sure the gay community are put off by Johnny due to his extremely camp persona and therefore creating a negative perception of gay people.
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Old 25-10-2011, 22:45
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What has Johnny being thin got to do with him being gay?

Craig has admitted he is gaySo has Marcus
So did Sami

What is your point? Just because there are few guys in the competition who are straight doesn't mean they must be in the closet
Don't say 'admitted'. You admit to a crime, not for being gay.
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Old 25-10-2011, 22:47
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Very good point! Theres no doubt, Johnny is recieving the gay vote. Although when I were watching it in the G-A-Y bar in London the other week, Marcus seemed very popular!
Gays like female singers, divas and really strong voices. I think you'll find gays prefer singers like Kitty, Misha and Janet.

Johnny isn't getting the gay vote.
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Old 25-10-2011, 22:59
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I'd say Marcus and The Risk are.

Marcus because he is gay and attractive, and The Risk because they are reasonably attractive.

As a poster has already pointed out, I'm sure the gay community are put off by Johnny due to his extremely camp persona and therefore creating a negative perception of gay people.
I don't think The Risk are.
Charlie said on Xtra Factor that he has a girlfriend, Andy and Derry always go after the girls and I don't know about Ashley, but he doesn't seem gay to me.. who knows..
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Old 26-10-2011, 01:27
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Theres no doubt, Johnny is recieving the gay vote. Although when I were watching it in the G-A-Y bar in London the other week, Marcus seemed very popular!
I wouldn't think Johnny was receiving very much gay vote at all. His voting base will most likely be almost entirely female. For some reason in the UK there's a type of woman, usually older, who absolutely loves men who are as camp as a row of tents. Fans of Paul O'Grady, Christopher Biggins, Alan Carr, that sort. I'm sure that's who votes mostly for Johnny.

Gay men are much more likely to be attracted to someone much sexier, more contemporary and better looking in the gay column - which leaves only Marcus, sorry, Craig - or to the real battle of the bitches divas - Micha and Kitty. Definitely Kitty I think.
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Old 26-10-2011, 09:40
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I wouldn't think Johnny was receiving very much gay vote at all. His voting base will most likely be almost entirely female. For some reason in the UK there's a type of woman, usually older, who absolutely loves men who are as camp as a row of tents. Fans of Paul O'Grady, Christopher Biggins, Alan Carr, that sort. I'm sure that's who votes mostly for Johnny.

Gay men are much more likely to be attracted to someone much sexier, more contemporary and better looking in the gay column - which leaves only Marcus, sorry, Craig - or to the real battle of the bitches divas - Micha and Kitty. Definitely Kitty I think.
I agree with most of your post except the bit about the ages of the women who are fans of those men (particularly Alan Carr) and Kitty likely to be the popular one if the buzz about Micha at G-A-Y is anything to go by.
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Old 26-10-2011, 09:42
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I reckon Kitty's a friend of Dorothy.
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Old 26-10-2011, 10:56
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I am pretty sure the white guy in Nu Vibe is gay..but yes just judging him on when he spoke
Could Misha or any females be a lesbian?..it seems less discussed
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Old 26-10-2011, 11:00
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I'm sure the gay community are put off by Johnny due to his extremely camp persona and therefore creating a negative perception of gay people.
camp shouldn't be considered negative..but sometimes camp goes along with being shallow and vain..which is negative in my mind..however Johnny doesn't seem to be that way
Not all gay men are shallow and just care about good looks
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Old 26-10-2011, 11:06
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Could Misha or any females be a lesbian?..it seems less discussed
Sami is openly lesbian.
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Old 26-10-2011, 11:07
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camp shouldn't be considered negative..but sometimes camp goes along with being shallow and vain..which is negative in my mind..however Johnny doesn't seem to be that way
Not all gay men are shallow and just care about good looks
My point was that many people view camp as negative.

And I think gay people would feel that someone as camp as Johnny would give an inaccurate perception of gay people in general.
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Old 26-10-2011, 11:23
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My point was that many people view camp as negative.

And I think gay people would feel that someone as camp as Johnny would give an inaccurate perception of gay people in general.
That is a shame that camp is seen as negative..Surely you don't look at Johnny and think he portrays every gay man in the world?..also when there are other gay men on the show I don't see Johnny being the one portraying gays only
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Old 26-10-2011, 11:25
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Sami is openly lesbian.
I didnt actually know that! oops
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Old 26-10-2011, 11:35
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That is a shame that camp is seen as negative..Surely you don't look at Johnny and think he portrays every gay man in the world?..also when there are other gay men on the show I don't see Johnny being the one portraying gays only
I don't personally but there are a lot of ignorant people out there who would.

I don't think being camp is a bad thing but when it comes down to a stereotype for gay men, it is.
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Old 26-10-2011, 11:38
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It seems to be X Factor tradition that the gay guys wait until after the show to come 'out' Of anyone with a good gaydar will know that Marcus, Johnny (obviously) & Craig! But of course theres the Risk?
"Gaydars" are a myth. There are massively camp people who are genuinely heterosexual, and gay guys who seem stereotypically "straight".
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Old 26-10-2011, 11:45
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"Gaydars" are a myth. There are massively camp people who are genuinely heterosexual, and gay guys who seem stereotypically "straight".
I agree.

The idea of a gaydar was to patronise people into thinking they had great psycho-analytical skills.
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Old 26-10-2011, 11:50
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I doubt it. Most gay men are not keen on overly-camp gay men. Some even think they're bad for the image and perception of gay men.
This, however Johnny I can tolerate.
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Old 26-10-2011, 12:38
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Doesn't bother me if they are gay or not as long as they entertain me. I love Marcus, not too sure about Craig and as another poster said, I'm loving Johnny's banter with Gary, his one liners are brilliant and I think he'll be around for a few weeks yet!
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Old 26-10-2011, 14:12
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Craig needs to come out as a teenage Peter Kay lookalike first
Funny you say that as everytime I saw Sami , I thought of Peter Kay's alter-ego Geraldine
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Old 26-10-2011, 14:23
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Why does a persons sexuality matter so much that threads are still being started about it? It's 2011 FFS. It's muderers, rapists, pedios and wife beaters that you should want to know about. Or do Gay's frighten you?
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Old 26-10-2011, 15:00
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Also Dermot stupidly asked him if he enjoyed the female dancers in his performance.
Poor old Marcus just sort of played along, cos he's such a nice guy. It would have been great if he'd said, "no way, I'm into dudes, dude!"
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Old 26-10-2011, 15:18
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Poor old Marcus just sort of played along, cos he's such a nice guy. It would have been great if he'd said, "no way, I'm into dudes, dude!"
I'd have loved it if he said 'I didn't think my boyfriend would approve'...
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