She always sounds like she's got a cold when she sings. It's not really good singing is it? 
Kitty sings through her nose
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Then you have Sophie and Frankie, Kitty could easily get practice in on her low register and she'd breeze it as it doesn't take long to get to grips with, but then you have..Sophie and Frankie..
Originally Posted by barrcode88:
“Then you have Sophie and Frankie, Kitty could easily get practice in on her low register and she'd breeze it as it doesn't take long to get to grips with, but then you have..Sophie and Frankie..”
“Then you have Sophie and Frankie, Kitty could easily get practice in on her low register and she'd breeze it as it doesn't take long to get to grips with, but then you have..Sophie and Frankie..”
Learning to control your lower register is far more difficult than the upper register for the sheer reason that the vocal cords are tauter the higher the note and looser the lower the note. Even someone immeasurably more vocally talented than Kitty like Leona Lewis still struggles to get to grips with her lower register whilst singing notes above the stratosphere in her sleep.
Kitty's problem is not simply lack of control in her lower register (and in her quiet tones) but also that her voice becomes increasingly nasal and unpleasant the higher and louder she attempts to sing.
Unless the issues are caused by something like sinusitis or adenoids, there is little she can or anyone can do about it. It's simply the tone of her voice.
Originally Posted by Candy Store:
“Learning to control your lower register is far more difficult than the upper register for the sheer reason that the vocal cords are tauter the higher the note and looser the lower the note. Even someone immeasurably more vocally talented than Kitty like Leona Lewis still struggles to get to grips with her lower register whilst singing notes above the stratosphere in her sleep.
Kitty's problem is not simply lack of control in her lower register (and in her quiet tones) but also that her voice becomes increasingly nasal and unpleasant the higher and louder she attempts to sing.
Unless the issues are caused by something like sinusitis or adenoids, there is little she can or anyone can do about it. It's simply the tone of her voice.”
“Learning to control your lower register is far more difficult than the upper register for the sheer reason that the vocal cords are tauter the higher the note and looser the lower the note. Even someone immeasurably more vocally talented than Kitty like Leona Lewis still struggles to get to grips with her lower register whilst singing notes above the stratosphere in her sleep.
Kitty's problem is not simply lack of control in her lower register (and in her quiet tones) but also that her voice becomes increasingly nasal and unpleasant the higher and louder she attempts to sing.
Unless the issues are caused by something like sinusitis or adenoids, there is little she can or anyone can do about it. It's simply the tone of her voice.”
Nope she can just practice, Elton John was the same in his early days had a high voice, but as he got older he became a baritone - many other singers have gone through this, famous or none.
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“Sings through her nose????
Close your mouth and put your hand over it. Now try singing.
”
“Sings through her nose????
Close your mouth and put your hand over it. Now try singing.
”
LMAO!!!
Originally Posted by barrcode88:
“Nope she can just practice, Elton John was the same in his early days had a high voice, but as he got older he became a baritone - many other singers have gone through this, famous or none.”
“Nope she can just practice, Elton John was the same in his early days had a high voice, but as he got older he became a baritone - many other singers have gone through this, famous or none.”
It's got nothing to do with practising. You either have it or you don't and if you don't, you can practice until you're blue in the face for very little reward.
You can only increase your range by a few half notes with training and control of either end of your register is not guaranteed through training.
It's different for male voices that naturally deepen more than female voices as they age. It doesn't increase their range though as they tend to lose parts of their upper register (Elton John being a case in point).
Originally Posted by Candy Store:
“Learning to control your lower register is far more difficult than the upper register for the sheer reason that the vocal cords are tauter the higher the note and looser the lower the note. Even someone immeasurably more vocally talented than Kitty like Leona Lewis still struggles to get to grips with her lower register whilst singing notes above the stratosphere in her sleep.
Kitty's problem is not simply lack of control in her lower register (and in her quiet tones) but also that her voice becomes increasingly nasal and unpleasant the higher and louder she attempts to sing.
Unless the issues are caused by something like sinusitis or adenoids, there is little she can or anyone can do about it. It's simply the tone of her voice.”
“Learning to control your lower register is far more difficult than the upper register for the sheer reason that the vocal cords are tauter the higher the note and looser the lower the note. Even someone immeasurably more vocally talented than Kitty like Leona Lewis still struggles to get to grips with her lower register whilst singing notes above the stratosphere in her sleep.
Kitty's problem is not simply lack of control in her lower register (and in her quiet tones) but also that her voice becomes increasingly nasal and unpleasant the higher and louder she attempts to sing.
Unless the issues are caused by something like sinusitis or adenoids, there is little she can or anyone can do about it. It's simply the tone of her voice.”
Surely a vocal coach could ensure that Kitty isn't tightening and closing her throat though? The horrible nasal quality could be improved if she learns not to constrict her throat, but also if she could either sing in a lower key or improve her range. It's a horribly nasal sound, and it really grates on me.
Originally Posted by Candy Store:
“It's got nothing to do with practising. You either have it or you don't and if you don't, you can practice until you're blue in the face for very little reward.
You can only increase your range by a few half notes with training and control of either end of your register is not guaranteed through training.
It's different for male voices that naturally deepen more than female voices as they age. It doesn't increase their range though as they tend to lose parts of their upper register (Elton John being a case in point).”
“It's got nothing to do with practising. You either have it or you don't and if you don't, you can practice until you're blue in the face for very little reward.
You can only increase your range by a few half notes with training and control of either end of your register is not guaranteed through training.
It's different for male voices that naturally deepen more than female voices as they age. It doesn't increase their range though as they tend to lose parts of their upper register (Elton John being a case in point).”
This is why the show has a vocal coach!
Originally Posted by barrcode88:
“This is why the show has a vocal coach!”
“This is why the show has a vocal coach!
”
Vocal coaches can only do what the singer's ability will allow. They're no different to any other type of coaches in any walk of life. The best athletics coach in the world is not going to any average club runner into Usain Bolt.
She has a horrible singing voice, but she could be a good singer if she just stopped singing through her nose.
She has improved somewhat, if you listen to her first audition where she sung Edge of Glory, or should I say - sneezed out, compare it with the version she did on Sunday and you can really notice the difference.
I am shocked as to the praise she is getting regarding her voice, it is awful to listen to her attempt high notes. She doesn't seem to do it consistently through her performances though.
I really, really struggled to interpret any of the words that she was singing on Saturday - at points it was if she was singing in a completely different language.
I think she has a lovely personality though, she's a little bit crazy but I find it really endearing and interesting, if it wasn't for her singing then she'd be my favourite contestant. Bizarre as that seems to be the complete opposite of how the judges see her - they think her personality is her downfall but that her singing is a redeeming feature.
She has improved somewhat, if you listen to her first audition where she sung Edge of Glory, or should I say - sneezed out, compare it with the version she did on Sunday and you can really notice the difference.
I am shocked as to the praise she is getting regarding her voice, it is awful to listen to her attempt high notes. She doesn't seem to do it consistently through her performances though.
I really, really struggled to interpret any of the words that she was singing on Saturday - at points it was if she was singing in a completely different language.
I think she has a lovely personality though, she's a little bit crazy but I find it really endearing and interesting, if it wasn't for her singing then she'd be my favourite contestant. Bizarre as that seems to be the complete opposite of how the judges see her - they think her personality is her downfall but that her singing is a redeeming feature.
Originally Posted by Candy Store:
“Vocal coaches can only do what the singer's ability will allow. They're no different to any other type of coaches in any walk of life. The best athletics coach in the world is not going to any average club runner into Usain Bolt.”
“Vocal coaches can only do what the singer's ability will allow. They're no different to any other type of coaches in any walk of life. The best athletics coach in the world is not going to any average club runner into Usain Bolt.”
Plus you can only help people who want to be helped. Kitty may think she sounds better and less nasal than she actually does.
Originally Posted by spannerandpony:
“Surely a vocal coach could ensure that Kitty isn't tightening and closing her throat though? The horrible nasal quality could be improved if she learns not to constrict her throat, but also if she could either sing in a lower key or improve her range. It's a horribly nasal sound, and it really grates on me.”
“Surely a vocal coach could ensure that Kitty isn't tightening and closing her throat though? The horrible nasal quality could be improved if she learns not to constrict her throat, but also if she could either sing in a lower key or improve her range. It's a horribly nasal sound, and it really grates on me.”
Tightening and relaxing the vocal cords is part and parcel of not only singing but speaking. It's how we make different sounds. That doesn't mean she's closing her throat. She wouldn't get the volume if she were closing her throat any more than she would if she were closing her mouth. The nasal sound is caused by something completely different. In fact the expression "singing through the nose" is a fallacy as the nose is what is not being used. It's a similar effect to holding your nose or your breath while singing or speaking, except it's involuntary. The only reason the term "nasal" is used to describe it is because it has a similar sound and tone to a loud blow of the nose.
Originally Posted by Candy Store:
“Vocal coaches can only do what the singer's ability will allow. They're no different to any other type of coaches in any walk of life. The best athletics coach in the world is not going to any average club runner into Usain Bolt.”
“Vocal coaches can only do what the singer's ability will allow. They're no different to any other type of coaches in any walk of life. The best athletics coach in the world is not going to any average club runner into Usain Bolt.”
Not really its just called singing from your chest, something which Kitty and vocal coach can work on, it'll at the bass to her already brilliant voice
Lol at people comparing Sophie and Frankie, Sophie has an incredible voice when you hear it live like I have unlike Frankie who sounds worse than on tv
Originally Posted by barrcode88:
“Not really its just called singing from your chest, something which Kitty and vocal coach can work on, it'll at the bass to her already brilliant voice”
“Not really its just called singing from your chest, something which Kitty and vocal coach can work on, it'll at the bass to her already brilliant voice
”
Do you actually know the difference between chest voice, head voice, falsetto, etc?
Originally Posted by Candy Store:
“Learning to control your lower register is far more difficult than the upper register for the sheer reason that the vocal cords are tauter the higher the note and looser the lower the note. Even someone immeasurably more vocally talented than Kitty like Leona Lewis still struggles to get to grips with her lower register whilst singing notes above the stratosphere in her sleep.
Kitty's problem is not simply lack of control in her lower register (and in her quiet tones) but also that her voice becomes increasingly nasal and unpleasant the higher and louder she attempts to sing.
Unless the issues are caused by something like sinusitis or adenoids, there is little she can or anyone can do about it. It's simply the tone of her voice.”
“Learning to control your lower register is far more difficult than the upper register for the sheer reason that the vocal cords are tauter the higher the note and looser the lower the note. Even someone immeasurably more vocally talented than Kitty like Leona Lewis still struggles to get to grips with her lower register whilst singing notes above the stratosphere in her sleep.
Kitty's problem is not simply lack of control in her lower register (and in her quiet tones) but also that her voice becomes increasingly nasal and unpleasant the higher and louder she attempts to sing.
Unless the issues are caused by something like sinusitis or adenoids, there is little she can or anyone can do about it. It's simply the tone of her voice.”
true and ive noticed sophie can do it really well
Originally Posted by Candy Store:
“Do you actually know the difference between chest voice, head voice, falsetto, etc?”
“Do you actually know the difference between chest voice, head voice, falsetto, etc?”
Yes, Kitty uses her modal voice, aka head - and if you want that in opera terms, shes a Mezzo-Soprano, highest being Soprano (i.e Kiri Te Kanawa) lowest being Contralto (i.e Alexandra Burke/Amy Winehouse)
I didn't notice the nasal quality until this last live show...I couldn't believe the judges said nothing about it.
Originally Posted by barrcode88:
“Yes, Kitty uses her modal voice, aka head - and if you want that in opera terms, shes a Mezzo-Soprano, highest being Soprano (i.e Kiri Te Kanawa) lowest being Contralto (i.e Alexandra Burke/Amy Winehouse)”
“Yes, Kitty uses her modal voice, aka head - and if you want that in opera terms, shes a Mezzo-Soprano, highest being Soprano (i.e Kiri Te Kanawa) lowest being Contralto (i.e Alexandra Burke/Amy Winehouse)”
Kitty uses all aspects of her voice, not just chest, as most singers do.
Why make opera comparisons? Particularly incorrect ones.
Originally Posted by unclekevo:
“her lower register is very nasally”
“her lower register is very nasally”
I find her upper register and belt far more nasally than her lower register.
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