I know he's only a kid, but I have never, ever, seen a more pitable sight then watching his efforts this week. With his put 'gangster' accent and his oversized suit, this absolute moronic brat destroyed his teams chances with an appalling sales technique.

He then attempted to claim the credit for James pirate idea which he CLEARLY thought up.

James maybe a bit of a prat, but I like him. He's a trier, he has a brain. Mohammed - god alone knows how he got onto the programme.

He was a disaster.

Its the BBC and we live in a PC world ...... you do the math

Well, I didnt want to say that, his presence was totally token if thats the case, but there are thousands of lads of his origin who are smart and business-like.

Why HIM!

Did you never watch Michael Sophocles?

I did. He was truly dire...but even he had a modicum of brain power.

I did like Mohammeds gangster talk ........... I thought when he got fired he was going to threaten to send the boys around to sort Alan out .........

I think you will hear from him again, a street looter, named and shamed.

I feel really sorry for the kid. He's just speaking in the accent and dialect of the area he's from, as most of us do. But because this particular accent is seen as "gangster", he gets written off as a likely criminal as soon as he opens his mouth. How depressing.

Jesus, do you have an agenda or something? He's only 16 and doing his A levels if you look up on the apprentice website. Which means he can't be an idiot. (after all, he wasn't the one who said 3x4=28 ) He has his own business and didn't seem that bad in the audition video.

Hey, at least he's doing better than most 16 year olds who've probably never worked a day in their life and have dropped out of school with no qualifications.

In the show, he was a disaster. The street accent didn't help either. Big deal. But it's not like he actually cost the team the task. However is there any need with the tasteless comments your making in this thread? You're acting as if he was in the real adult version and I've watched the last 4 seasons and some of them have been atrocious.

For all you know, in 6 years time he might have grown up (literally ) and be more mature.

Being 16 doesn't mean you can't be an idiot and be incapable of doing bad things. just think the kid was a bit scummy.

Scummy? Charming. Yep you do have an agenda as I thought.

Carry on :yawn:

Nice

No seriously? What's the agenda? Please do tell me?

Because he's black?

Nothing to do with it whatsoever.

Putting on a stupid voice?

Yes

Pretending that you came with an idea and trying to discredit someone else?

Yes

He showed nobody on his team any respect, he was rude, totally unprofessional, loud, boisterous and downright insulting. Don't use his age as an excuse as every other person on the show is the same age range and all of them knew the right decorum in the boardroom.


No agenda. Just the facts.

Unless you've never seen an episode of the apprentice before, there are plenty of other candidates from the adult series who would fit that description. So why single out a 16 year old in particular? For example, was he as rude as Katie Hopkins was to that lad from the north? Remember her comments to him? Was he as idiotic as the girl on the other task who said 3x4=28?

Like I said. He was rubbish, but so was that posh lad from the adult version of the apprentice. Was rude to his colleagues, didn't lead well, had awful people skills and tried to blame others and was fired on the first week.

Explain crass comments such as this then ...


He's a 16 year old who's doing better than most people his age. He has GCSE qualifications, he's doing his A levels, he has his own business and he's part of uk youth parliament.

How many 16 year olds can boast all that?

Look, it isn't the hardest thing in the world to get GCSE's, I was a lazy sod at school and even I managed 8 A-C's, (no A's though, lol)

This 'business' of his, please, tell me all about it.

It's just his manner, the way he talks, I can't bear it, if he was my son I'd be ashamed that he talked like that, and riot remark...well, just listen to the way some of those rioters speak. Its this 'gangsta' style voice. Mohammed put it on to try and be the hard man. It just angered me so much and I was rooting for James as a result, even though James himself was a mug in the ep.

Some of the rioters in Manchester had Mancunian accents?

He probably went to an inner city state school and was surrounded by people who spoke that. It's not that hard to pick it up. Some people have street accents and some have posh accents. What can you do? You don't choose to speak a certain way, it just comes naturally. If you watch his audition video on the apprentice website, he keeps that street accent in check and speaks better.

Like I said, how many 16 year olds are in his position? Take away the street accent and personality, wouldn't you be proud if your child was achieving what he was achieving at 16?

1. Having GCSE qualification
2. Undertaking 4 A Levels
3. Having their own business (buying and selling satellites)
4. Member of the UK Youth Parliament (representing Enfield)

Most people I knew at 16, just had GCSE's and were preparing to do their A levels. No more no less. Others dropped out of school with no qualifications and became wasters.

Like I said. He's only 16, 5 years time he'll be 21 and he might have matured. His manner might have changed. I know plenty of people who have changed as they've grown up. If I look back now as 16 year old. I squirm. I was just a simpleton in comparison to what I know now and how much I've changed and what my outlook in life is, and I'm 21 myself.

You do make some fair points fellah. But like you I'm fed what I'm shown onscreen. I can only go on that, and I really didn't like what I see. Lets hope you're right, in five years, lets hope so.

But I'm doubtful.

It's an accent, nothing more. That is how most people in the area he's grown up in would speak. I highly doubt that they are all rioters and criminals

It's obviously quite foreign to you and clearly makes you uncomfortable, which is unfortunate. But if you try to see it as just another regional accent, perhaps it won't wind you up quite as much. After all, you presumably wouldn't imply that a young boy was a future criminal just because he had a Scouse/Cockney/Bristol accent, would you?

But I dont think its his actual accent, that way of talking isnt a regional dialect, its 'put on' by youths trying to act tough, am I wrong?

It's not a traditional regional accent, it's only been around for the last 20-30 years, which is why it can feel like an assault on the ears if you're not used to hearing it. It's very entrenched among younger people though and, no, I don't think it's put on at all. If that's the way everyone around you speaks, that's the way you'll speak too, without even realising you're doing it.

It's not just dropouts and criminals who talk that way. It's just how a large proportion of younger, working class Londoners speak. I have even encountered young police officers who speak with Mohammed's accent, believe it or not.

Well, I do live in London so I know pretty much all of the accents and I support Spurs so I'm in the area often where you hear the kids speak like that. Its certainly not a North London accent

I digress anyway, the tone of his voice was just one of the things that irritated me.

And just to address the comment that I'm picking on him because he's a kid, two things, firstly, I attacked Chris Bates this time last year for an extremely unprofessional assault on Stuart Baggs and second, I think these kids want to be treated as adults, they are very close to adulthood and soft soaping them due to their age is not right.

He was truly dire, the worst candidate and the most deluded in Apprentice history. If he did have a modicum of brain power he kept it very well hidden because all I saw was a prize idiot

Harry H picked the one of the wrong people to go into the boardroom with him....

Had he taken "invisible man" Ben in - I'd hazard a guess that he would have gone on the fact that he didn't seem to contribute much to the task. James and Mahammad were both very visible in the edits - and both contributed a lot to it - as did Harry M and Lewis.

LS's problem was that with the 3 he had to choose from - Mahammad was the obvious one to go as the weakest of the 3 (and caught fibbing), but had Ben been there - he would have been an easy target a la Alex Cabral last year.

That Louis seems a bit off too, nexts weeks preview seemed to suggest he was arguing with a few of them.

I think the key word here is "edit" - the program is edited after the event - knowing who went into the boardroom. So if Ben had been taken in I would expect him to have featured more in the earlier part of the show. Its why last series of adult apprentice we saw so little of some of the girls early on - they kept winning so there was no real reason for them to make the edit. But if a candidate really does sit back and do nothing the others (and Nick/Karen) will definitly pick up on it.