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Mohammed - The Worst Candidate I have Ever Seen
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The Rhydler
28-10-2011
I find Karren and Nick annoyingly dont always stand up when outright lies are being said. Karren could have backed the claims of James that he invented the pirate idea and Mohammed did NOT!
CaroUK
28-10-2011
Originally Posted by Shrike:
“I think the key word here is "edit" - the program is edited after the event - knowing who went into the boardroom. So if Ben had been taken in I would expect him to have featured more in the earlier part of the show. Its why last series of adult apprentice we saw so little of some of the girls early on - they kept winning so there was no real reason for them to make the edit. But if a candidate really does sit back and do nothing the others (and Nick/Karen) will definitly pick up on it.”

Yes - I agree that it is all in the edit - but even in the bits we saw Ben was not doing much - he was one who didn't really have much input into team name/ voting for PM and even on the selling part of the task he wasn't seen to be doing much.

I still think he was lucky - and Mahammad unlucky that Ben wasn't there to be picked off!
Mrs Mackintosh
28-10-2011
The rude one was Harry, the PM because he didn't acknowledge Mahammed or shake his hand when he left. I thought that was really bad form.

James is an irritating plonker but at least he had the manners to shake the wee lad's hand on his exit.
Donald Dallas
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“I know he's only a kid, but I have never, ever, seen a more pitable sight then watching his efforts this week. With his put 'gangster' accent and his oversized suit, this absolute moronic brat destroyed his teams chances with an appalling sales technique.

He then attempted to claim the credit for James pirate idea which he CLEARLY thought up.

James maybe a bit of a prat, but I like him. He's a trier, he has a brain. Mohammed - god alone knows how he got onto the programme.

He was a disaster.”

He's a little black kid from inner-city London, going up against posh and middle class white kids. There were so many reasons he was going to struggle.

I probably would have dumped him, but James was an equally viable candidate.

I found it funny that they declared these were the best potential business brains in the country, given that some of the girls couldn't even manage basic maths.

Anyway, back on Mahamed (note the spelling), according to his bio he:

"He is the Youth Parliament Representative for his borough and has already made money buying and selling TV satellites"

Which one of you haters is involved in putting things into space?
The Rhydler
29-10-2011
Where has he got the money to buy up satellites? His accumulated pocket money?
Elan Morin
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“Look, it isn't the hardest thing in the world to get GCSE's, I was a lazy sod at school and even I managed 8 A-C's, (no A's though, lol)

This 'business' of his, please, tell me all about it.

It's just his manner, the way he talks, I can't bear it, if he was my son I'd be ashamed that he talked like that, and riot remark...well, just listen to the way some of those rioters speak. Its this 'gangsta' style voice. Mohammed put it on to try and be the hard man. It just angered me so much and I was rooting for James as a result, even though James himself was a mug in the ep.”


wow. you're life must be pretty uneventful if you are hating on a kid because of the way he speaks.

Seriously, dude. Get a life. It's a TV show.
The Revolution
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“Where has he got the money to buy up satellites? His accumulated pocket money?”

Yep, I'm 100% you have an agenda :yawn: You can deny it all you like, but it's pretty obvious for everyone else to see that you clearly do.

Let's have a look how a poor Sir Alan sugar who grew up in a council estate, started...

Wikipedia...
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“He started selling car aerials and electrical goods out of a van he had bought with his savings of £100.”

My relatives sometimes gave me money as a birthday present and I used to work for my local newsagents when I was 13/14/15 delivering newspapers and got £20 every weekend. Obviously in your case, mummy and daddy gave you money and you probably didn't work until your late teens or early 20s like most people.
The Rhydler
30-10-2011
Assuming an awful lot arent we.

We didnt have a pot to piss in when I was a kid, my dad bedridden and out of work for a good few years.

The difference with me and my brother is that we are well brought up.

Still waiting for you to state the agenda I'm supposed to have.
The Revolution
30-10-2011
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“Assuming an awful lot arent we.

We didnt have a pot to piss in when I was a kid, my dad bedridden and out of work for a good few years.

The difference with me and my brother is that we are well brought up.

Still waiting for you to state the agenda I'm supposed to have.”

Wait and he wasn't brought up well?

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“1. Having GCSE qualification
2. Undertaking 4 A Levels
3. Having their own business (buying and selling satellites)
4. Member of the UK Youth Parliament (representing Enfield)”

Shame on his parents for raising a child from an inner city London and raising him to achieve all that by the time he was 16.

It's ironic your attacking him when you yourself come across an odious individual. You were well brought up? Yeah right, it's really showing isn't it

He's probably achieved more and done more for himself than you did. Unless of course you want to correct me and tell me what you managed to achieve by the time you were 16.

I'm not going to state anything. It's clear as day for anyone to see but like I said, continue pretending that you don't
The Rhydler
31-10-2011
No, you're just an argumentative so-and-so who is trying to defend the indefensible on the flimsy reasoning that he's a kid.

Have a go at me all you want, I can take it. The kid was crap, rude and he deserved a smacking, not a sacking.
Reggie Rebel
31-10-2011
He's still as bad as Sophocles though
The Revolution
31-10-2011
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“No, you're just an argumentative so-and-so who is trying to defend the indefensible on the flimsy reasoning that he's a kid.

Have a go at me all you want, I can take it. The kid was crap, rude and he deserved a smacking, not a sacking.”

If I'm argumentative, then you're an odious individual. I'm not defending him, I've already said he was utterly rubbish on the show. But I've challenged you on some of your stupid comments and it's clear as hell to see what you're insinuating. Either that or you're as thick as pig shit.

I'm not the one who wasn't capable of just giving a constructive criticism. I mean, you'll deny you have an agenda, but this is what you posted....

Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“I think you will hear from him again, a street looter, named and shamed.”

Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“ just think the kid was a bit scummy.”

Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“Where has he got the money to buy up satellites? His accumulated pocket money?”

...and that's just some of the stuff you've posted in this thread. Are you willing to defend those comments and justify them?

Like I said, pretend you don't have an agenda or that you're not insinuating anything and that your criticism were fair and constructive. But people aren't stupid and they can read this thread and make their minds up about you People in the adult version of the apprentice have behaved far far worse than this kid. They've called people horrible names. If your little brain can't remember that far, have you forgotten the utterly rude contestants such as Katie Hopkins and what she said to the contestant Adam Hosker, a northern? Or the hot headed, arrogant behaviour of Stuard Baggs throughout the previous series? That's just some of the adult contestant.
The Rhydler
31-10-2011
Viva La Revolution! Eh?

I'm not interested in your attacks, they are irrelevent to me. Odious? If you like.

Why can't you say the agenda I am supposed to have? Why are you pussyfooting around like some Tory MP? I've already stated it's nothing to do with his race. If he was white and acting and talking like that I'd say the same thing.

All of the past contestants and that includes Junior Apprentice from last year, yes we have seen some brashness, some rudeness and some downright idiocy, but this kid just had an element of scumminess about him, I'll use that word again, I'm happy to. There's a lot of scummy youths around and the way this kid acted reminded me of them.

Katie Hopkins was a horrible person and yes she took Adam out in that episode, but that was necessitated by the firing she faced if she didn't. Mahammed was acting like that in the task, before the results were announced and then in the final BR.

Stuart Baggs played the part of the clown for the series, was he an inherantly bad person? No, he wasn't, he was actually the one victimised quite a lot of the time.

You want constructive criticism for Mahammed, ok here it is

- Drop the silly voice

- Show respect to your contempories

- Show respect to your potential employer

- Don't continually lie about ideas you did not have

- Actually come up with some ideas

- Dont effect a 'cool' walk

- Wear a suit that fits you

Ok?
The Revolution
31-10-2011
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“Viva La Revolution! Eh?

I'm not interested in your attacks, they are irrelevent to me. Odious? If you like.

Why can't you say the agenda I am supposed to have? Why are you pussyfooting around like some Tory MP? I've already stated it's nothing to do with his race. If he was white and acting and talking like that I'd say the same thing.

All of the past contestants and that includes Junior Apprentice from last year, yes we have seen some brashness, some rudeness and some downright idiocy, but this kid just had an element of scumminess about him, I'll use that word again, I'm happy to. There's a lot of scummy youths around and the way this kid acted reminded me of them.

Katie Hopkins was a horrible person and yes she took Adam out in that episode, but that was necessitated by the firing she faced if she didn't. Mahammed was acting like that in the task, before the results were announced and then in the final BR.

Stuart Baggs played the part of the clown for the series, was he an inherantly bad person? No, he wasn't, he was actually the one victimised quite a lot of the time.

You want constructive criticism for Mahammed, ok here it is

- Drop the silly voice

- Show respect to your contempories

- Show respect to your potential employer

- Don't continually lie about ideas you did not have

- Actually come up with some ideas

- Dont effect a 'cool' walk

- Wear a suit that fits you

Ok?”

So wait despite claiming you know what she said, you're defending Katie's personal attack on Adam? Simply because he was a northerner and belittling him for that? You're actually justifying her comments?

On top of that, funny how you continue to defend Baggs. Do you not remember his first episode and how rude and appallingly bad he was? Essentially harassing people and he was told by a fellow team-mate that he was being too aggresive in the way he was approaching people and trying to sell to them. Almost like the lad Mohammed was told in his first episode that the way he was approaching people was too aggresive

Both Bagg's team and Mohammed's team lost and Baggs and Mohammed were both taken back to the boardroom. The difference is that baggs went through and was able to quite down for a couple of episode, after his first episode in which he was far to arrogance and lord sugar said his card was marked.

If you were to purely judge Baggs on that first episode only, it wouldn't be nice and he was considered the apprentice villain the moment he survived in the first episode.

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“- Show respect to your contempories”

Because he was the only one who who's never showed his contempories respect? Remember the contestant who was fired and wasn't willing to shake the hands of those who survived?

Or stuart Baggs who was told to calm down in the way he was approaching people in the streets. How did he respond to his fellow team-mate? By arrogantly replying "who sold the most and dismissing his advice. Ah, you got to love respect like that.

Did he tell anyone to **** off? No
Did he personally insult anyone? No
Did he personally touch anyone? No

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“- Show respect to your potential employer”

How was he disrepecful to Lord Sugar? Do you not remember the contestant who sat down on his first episode with his legs of his knees like he was down the pub?

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“- Don't continually lie about ideas you did not have”

Or lie on your CV like one of the winners did or like Stuart Baggs did. Remember why Lord sugar fired him? Remember when Sir Alan found out about what he mentioned he had done, but in fact hadn't? Sugar reply was that he was full of shit and fired him angrily for leading him along throughout the process and firing liz instead of him. Allow me to refresh your memory - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eht_...eature=related

Let's keep it into perspective, yeah?

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“- Actually come up with some ideas”

It was his first episode. You don't remember in past series in which others have said nothing? What a horrible person he is, for not coming up with an idea in his first episode

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“- Dont effect a 'cool' walk”

What? He could have a limp for all I care, what's that got to do with anything?

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“- Wear a suit that fits you”

Look at his height and he's 16 Your talking as if he was the only one. Did you not see the others? Their suits didn't fit either, look at the promotional picture of all the contestant. Do you not remember the first series of the young apprentice? One of the amusing things was that they all worse suits that didn't fit them. That was the thing everyone noticed.

But funny how you're now willing to give "constructive" critcism of him. But like I said, those posts are there for all to see and people can make their minds up about you.
_NiallDEE_
31-10-2011
I cringed when he went up too the people shouting in there faces 'come and try some of our lovely ice creams', he looks about 10 aswell
sutie
01-11-2011
Whoever told that kid to go to SHINY-SUITS-R-US for his clothes, and to the 'Big Ben Model Shop' for his watch, want shooting!
Jenkins123
01-11-2011
Mohammed was just awful... Stick to selling satellites over the internet kid.
The Rhydler
01-11-2011
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“So wait despite claiming you know what she said, you're defending Katie's personal attack on Adam? Simply because he was a northerner and belittling him for that? You're actually justifying her comments?”

I don't remember her slating him because he was a northerner, more than he talks slowly, doesn't delegate and secretly drinks behind the scenes. She was a vicious shrew, an awful person. Right up there with this kid.


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“On top of that, funny how you continue to defend Baggs. Do you not remember his first episode and how rude and appallingly bad he was? Essentially harassing people and he was told by a fellow team-mate that he was being too aggresive in the way he was approaching people and trying to sell to them. Almost like the lad Mohammed was told in his first episode that the way he was approaching people was too aggresive ”

Yeah, I liked Stuart, he was super enthuisiastic. Excitable and abrasive at times. But super entertainment. I could have a pint with Stu.

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“Both Bagg's team and Mohammed's team lost and Baggs and Mohammed were both taken back to the boardroom. The difference is that baggs went through and was able to quite down for a couple of episode, after his first episode in which he was far to arrogance and lord sugar said his card was marked.”

Baggs made it almost to the final on sheer exuberance, even taking out the highly impressive Liz Locke. Arrogance isnt a crime if its tempered. The only time I saw him in real loggerheads with someone is when he was insulted by Chris Bates.

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“If you were to purely judge Baggs on that first episode only, it wouldn't be nice and he was considered the apprentice villain the moment he survived in the first episode.”

Not really, he wasn't in any danger of being fired in that episode nor did he deserve to be.

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“Because he was the only one who who's never showed his contempories respect? Remember the contestant who was fired and wasn't willing to shake the hands of those who survived?”

Maybe becuase Mahammed didn't deserve to have his hand shaken.

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“Or stuart Baggs who was told to calm down in the way he was approaching people in the streets. How did he respond to his fellow team-mate? By arrogantly replying "who sold the most and dismissing his advice. Ah, you got to love respect like that.”

While being called a 'fat ****'

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“Did he tell anyone to **** off? No
Did he personally insult anyone? No
Did he personally touch anyone? No”

Touch anyone? LOL. No implicit insults, but I would bet money there were some thrown off camera. He insulted me by the way he acted and the way he spoke to people.

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“How was he disrepecful to Lord Sugar? Do you not remember the contestant who sat down on his first episode with his legs of his knees like he was down the pub?”

Yeah, talking in an aggressive tone. You can't do that to your boss.

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“Or lie on your CV like one of the winners did or like Stuart Baggs did. Remember why Lord sugar fired him? Remember when Sir Alan found out about what he mentioned he had done, but in fact hadn't? Sugar reply was that he was full of shit and fired him angrily for leading him along throughout the process and firing liz instead of him. Allow me to refresh your memory - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eht_...eature=related”

He didn't lie. They said that he didnt have a full license for whatever it was his business was. He had a license, just one little niggle on the license, it didnt really ring true at the time and they were just trying to dig something up to oust him as he was never going to make the final. Most everything on his CV was essentially true. Lee McQueen lied on his CV and he won the bloody thing.

I've not said Mahammed is the only crap candidate, just that he's the worst of the worst.

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“It was his first episode. You don't remember in past series in which others have said nothing? What a horrible person he is, for not coming up with an idea in his first episode ”

No, a horrible person for trying to lay claim to an idea that wasn't his.

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“What? He could have a limp for all I care, what's that got to do with anything? ”

I wouldn't want to work with someone that pretended to walk like a prat. If he had a medical problem that affected his walking fine, but a pretend 'geezah' walk, no.

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“Look at his height and he's 16 Your talking as if he was the only one. Did you not see the others? Their suits didn't fit either, look at the promotional picture of all the contestant. Do you not remember the first series of the young apprentice? One of the amusing things was that they all worse suits that didn't fit them. That was the thing everyone noticed.”

'16' '16' zzzzz. No all the other guys had suits that fitted except him.

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“But funny how you're now willing to give "constructive" critcism of him. But like I said, those posts are there for all to see and people can make their minds up about you.”

No, not really. You're the only one sounding off and making it personal.
phoebecates
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by Donald Dallas:
“He's a little black kid from inner-city London, going up against posh and middle class white kids. There were so many reasons he was going to struggle.
”

Wow - patronising or what?
Kishan
01-11-2011
A big THUMBS UP to the poster "The Revolution".

And also a word of advice: Don't bother trying to talk some sense into that poster.
googleking
01-11-2011
So do we know what his "business" is yet. Is it another rubbishy ebay/amazon shop or an actual business with proper accounts?
The Rhydler
02-11-2011
Originally Posted by Kishan:
“A big THUMBS UP to the poster "The Revolution".

And also a word of advice: Don't bother trying to talk some sense into that poster. ”

Love you too

Xxx
madetomeasure
03-11-2011
Trolls get everywhere don't they and that's no riddle
The Rhydler
03-11-2011
Clearly you've got the definition of a troll wrong then
spannerandpony
03-11-2011
Originally Posted by The Revolution:
“Wait and he wasn't brought up well?



Shame on his parents for raising a child from an inner city London and raising him to achieve all that by the time he was 16.

It's ironic your attacking him when you yourself come across an odious individual. You were well brought up? Yeah right, it's really showing isn't it

He's probably achieved more and done more for himself than you did. Unless of course you want to correct me and tell me what you managed to achieve by the time you were 16.

I'm not going to state anything. It's clear as day for anyone to see but like I said, continue pretending that you don't ”

I'd hardly call Enfield "inner city London". There are some incredibly affluent areas in Enfield. We're hardly talking Broadwater farm. Plus you only have to look at what Mahamed was wearing to see that he's not exactly a deprived inner city kid.

Look, for me, it's simple. He came across as incredibly arrogant and as someone who is insecure and hides the fact by portraying himself as superior. He was also trying to take credit for other peoples' sales figures and contributions to the task. Nothing to do with his colour or where he's from.

If he's going to get a job in the real world then he needs taking down a peg or two (as do several of the candidates) and needs to stop taking credit for ideas and contributions that aren't his own.

He's certainly not alone; several of the candidates have huge superiority complexes, but whether through editing or not, he came across as extraordinarily annoying.
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